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jdurko   12-12-2007 at 11:24:42 PM


I have an ATI 1800XT I bought a few years back...worked fine for COD2 and the few other games I had time to play.

I purchased COD4 and like it but seem the game seems to think 800x600 is about all the setup can handle. The box is a HP 1070n with 3Gz P4 with 3GB of RAM.

I recently bought a new box another HP ..this time with an AMD X2 5800+. It has an onboard Nvidia 6500? (or similar) but COD4 see's this as inferior to the other setup. I've tried putting the 1800XT in this box but so far it wont boot when I do so I'm thinking about moving on up to an Nvidia 88000 GT which is getting rave reviews.

How signficant is the step up from an 1800 XT to the 8800 GT? Due to the age of the older card I'm having trouble finding any listing of comparable benchmarks between the two. I like COD4 and can sort of justify spend a few hundred if it will signicantly improve the experience.....

thoughts?


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lostandwandering   12-12-2007 at 11:33:11 PM
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I think the bigger issue is that you are throwing money into a pretty dated system. You could add the 8800GT and get a decent jump in frame rate, but your CPU is will hold it back a bit. You may be better off saving your money and just doing a complete overhaul in a month or so.

Now, I'm not saying don't get the 8800GT. Just giving you something else to think about. I don't know how far your motherboard will let you upgrade, but you may be able to upgrade your CPU without needing a new motherboard.

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Kamrooz   12-13-2007 at 12:10:50 AM
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I agree with lost. I'm on a 3.2 prescott..I wouldn't even dare nab a 3850 or 8800 GT for this rig...it would be a disgrace to the card for coupling it with a 3.2 prescott...lol

Personally, save up some cash for a new rig..

Wait...re-read your post. If you have a second box with a 5600 x2...it should be fine with a 8800 Gt..that would make it more beneficial. But how much ram does it have?

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caamsa   12-13-2007 at 12:30:01 AM
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Also he said that the 1800XT would not work in the HP X2 5800+ so I wonder if he has a good enough power supply to even run it. Or maybe the HP board does not have a PCI-E slot?

Please give us the specs of your AMD system.

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kpo6969   12-13-2007 at 12:55:24 AM
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jdurko wrote :

I have an ATI 1800XT I bought a few years back...worked fine for COD2 and the few other games I had time to play.

I purchased COD4 and like it but seem the game seems to think 800x600 is about all the setup can handle. The box is a HP 1070n with 3Gz P4 with 3GB of RAM.

I recently bought a new box another HP ..this time with an AMD X2 5800+. It has an onboard Nvidia 6500? (or similar) but COD4 see's this as inferior to the other setup. I've tried putting the 1800XT in this box but so far it wont boot when I do so I'm thinking about moving on up to an Nvidia 88000 GT which is getting rave reviews.

How signficant is the step up from an 1800 XT to the 8800 GT? Due to the age of the older card I'm having trouble finding any listing of comparable benchmarks between the two. I like COD4 and can sort of justify spend a few hundred if it will signicantly improve the experience.....

thoughts?


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Cleeve   12-13-2007 at 05:43:05 AM
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The X1800 XT is rough;y equivalent to the X1950 PRO, which the 8800 GT will maul and destroy with extreme prejudice.

Having said that, the X1800XT is still a decent card, unless you're gaming above 1650x1080.

------------------------------ Cleeve
Hardware Editor, Tom's Hardware Guide
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jdurko   12-13-2007 at 10:43:47 PM
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I've put a 500W power supply into the new AMD system. It's a HP n11XX cant remeber the exact number media center setup. AMD 5800+ and 3GB ram + 500GB drive... I bought is since at $700 bucks it seemed like a steal. It has a PCI-E slot but for some reason I cant yet get it to boot when I put the 1800 in the currently empty PCI-E slot. I know I have to change the BIOS setting to specify the PCI video rather then the onboard Nvidia setup (I've kept a second moniter on the onboard vid port to check for this but so far it just wont even POST). I'm not sure if I'm missing something else. I tried installing the ATI catalyst drivers before installing the card but it doesnt get very far if it doenst find an ATI card. The AMD rig has Vista Home Premium.

When I upgraded the older P4 3GHhz System I simply removed the X300 Card that came with and popped in the 1800XT...unfortunately its just not going that well trying to move it to the new AMD rig. I expect I'll try again. Seating the X1800 can be a pain so may that was it....there is certainly lots of juice with the new power supply.

Thanks for the advice, I think it's worth making one more try to get tehe 1800XT into the newer rig. That might be enough to hold me over until the next generation of cards rather then grabbing an 8800GT now.

I do most of my playing on my sony Z4 projector which maxes out at 1368x720 or so... Dont really need a higher rest then that.

Cheers

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Cleeve   12-13-2007 at 10:50:52 PM
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An X1800 XT is more than enough power for 1368x720 with 4xAA.

Keep working on it. If the motherboard has a newer BIOS available, install it... might help.

------------------------------ Cleeve
Hardware Editor, Tom's Hardware Guide
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