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2 x RadeOn X1950 Pro (Crossfire) or 1 x 8800 GTS w/512MB

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December 14, 2007 7:04:44 PM

I have an Asus M2N-E Motherboard, OCZ 4GB (3.5GB Accessible, 1GB x 4) Crossfire Certified Platinum Rev 2 memory, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ processor and an ATI RadeOn x1950 Pro w/256MB GDDR3 Memory and 2 Crossfire Bridges. Would it make sense to pickup a 2nd identical card for $160 and put them in Crossfire mode? Or would it make more sense to instead, drop $350-$400 on an NVidia GeForce 8800GTS w/512MB Memory? I'm currently playing 3 games; thsoe being BFME II (online), Oblivion and Crysis. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-- MaSoP
December 14, 2007 7:09:21 PM

An 8800 GTS 512mb will kill two X1950's in Crossfire.

ESPECIALLY in Crysis...
December 19, 2007 5:38:10 PM

Thanks for the input. I'm trying to save $$$ though, so $350 might be reasonable, but I am trying to stay under $200. I am thinking I should keep what I got right now and wait for prices to drop. My x1950 pro handles just about everything I throw at it so far; though I'd like to play more gasmes in high/ultra high settings. I'm a 1024x768 gamer. I never go above that resolution. :-)

-- MaSoP


cleeve said:
An 8800 GTS 512mb will kill two X1950's in Crossfire.

ESPECIALLY in Crysis...

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December 19, 2007 5:52:41 PM

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I'm a 1024x768 gamer.
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I've noticed that AA etc. looks more crisp and clear once you hit 1280x1024 or higher.

If $200 is your limit and you play at 1024x768, you can try the 256MB 8800GT (if you can find it in stock). There is also the HD 3850 for about $170. Just FYI. :p 
December 19, 2007 6:46:58 PM

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If $200 is your limit and you play at 1024x768, you can try the 256MB 8800GT (if you can find it in stock). There is also the HD 3850 for about $170. Just FYI. :p 


Newegg has a XFX 8800GT 256 in stock for $210 or an OC version for $230->$220 with a free game.
December 19, 2007 6:50:15 PM

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Newegg has a XFX 8800GT 256 in stock for $210 or an OC version for $230->$220 with a free game.
Pretty good deal imo.
December 19, 2007 8:04:18 PM

1 8800GTS 512 will kill 1,2, or 3 x1950s.
However, the 3870 Crossfire should beat the 8800GTS in every benchmark.
If you can find 1 3870 for $200, then you can get another later. Watch Ruby in all her glory.

Finding a 3870 for $~200 is the only hard-part.
December 19, 2007 10:21:04 PM

At that resolution you are more cpu bottlenecked than graphically. Out of curiosity why do you only game at 1024x768? You would probably lose almost no frames moving to 1280x1024 if your monitor supports it.
February 26, 2008 7:18:53 PM

Well, first of all, I have a Samsung 906BW LCD so I can't do that resolution. The max is 1440x900 I believe with 16x9 AR. I haven't actually tried anything above 1024x768 mode in Crysis yet but need to in order to see how my current configuration handles it. I do know if I crank the settings above medium or turn on AA, it absolutely kills the game play. Even the game menu slows down considerably by doing so. The resolution increase in itself may be ok but I won't know till I try.

I do have a cpu upgrade on the books for this spring. I'll probably go for the X2 5000+ (65W) retail model (or higher) for around $100 shipped. I'm sure that will help with certain aspects of gaming as well as overall system performance. Obviously the bulk of the performance is going to be on whatever GPU I have.

As far as the video card goes, I need to find out if going with crossfire will be supported by the games I play besides Crysis. That being the following: LOTR BFME II, NFS Carbon, Unreal Tournament 3, Portal, HL2: Episode Two, Quake Wars and C&C 3. Those are the only games I've played in the last 2 years; Crysis being the most recent.

Any additional thoughts? Thanks to all for the replies.

-- MaSoP
February 26, 2008 7:28:38 PM

OP,

A few things

-Your cpu is going to bottleneck hardcore with that gpu
-Because of your bottleneck you will barely see a performance increase
-That cpu is a much better partner to a 3850-512
-There is NO Nvidia card that supports DX10.1 making them a very bad investment for the future(nice performance fix)

I would recomend you work on getting your CPU upgraded first. Its always good to start from the foundation and work your way up. There are some nice deals on 6000s and 6400s or the 5000black floating around. You can land yourself an good deal on a bundle for AM2+ if you want as well and be set for a few years.
February 26, 2008 7:48:17 PM

masop said:
I have an Asus M2N-E Motherboard, OCZ 4GB (3.5GB Accessible, 1GB x 4) Crossfire Certified Platinum Rev 2 memory, AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ processor and an ATI RadeOn x1950 Pro w/256MB GDDR3 Memory and 2 Crossfire Bridges. Would it make sense to pickup a 2nd identical card for $160 and put them in Crossfire mode? Or would it make more sense to instead, drop $350-$400 on an NVidia GeForce 8800GTS w/512MB Memory? I'm currently playing 3 games; thsoe being BFME II (online), Oblivion and Crysis. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

-- MaSoP

The 8800GTS 512 (G92) is the way to go....mine is giveing me just under 12K score in 3dMark06 and the system is still stock.
Don't bother to pay extra for a factory OC one...they can all basicly clock to 800/2000 according to guru3d.com useing nTune.

Price I saw online 2-3 weeks ago was $258 with an email code.

EDIT: The 5000+ BE was $89 but Fry's has a CPU/MB combo all the time for the 6000+ (2 X 1MB L2) and after walking out the door and back in to return the MB...the 6000+ is only $111.
February 26, 2008 9:48:30 PM

get the GTS, but you REALLY need to fix up your CPU TBTH
February 27, 2008 2:49:51 AM

When someone askes for advice its always good to explain yourself. Telling someone to buy an expensive gpu that will literaly render them maybee 5 fps on average is not very sound advice. I advise against buying any Nvidia card atm because of the lack of dx10.1 support now and the fact that it will never work on current Nvidia hardware. The other factor is the suck arse support for SLI on pcie-2.0 MBs now and coming up this year and probably the next year after that. Nvidia has a nice gpu but other then that they are thumbs down for performance per $ when taking longevity into account.
February 27, 2008 4:11:25 AM

If you're trying to keep it under $200, I see no reason why not to get the 9600GT or HD 3870... Here's some food for thought.

SAPPHIRE 100226L Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS Hightech H387QS512NP Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported IceQ3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 512-P3-N862-AR Superclocked GeForce 9600GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX PVT94PYDF4 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Best deal hands down the MSI 8800GT at $215 (Or $195 AR), not only is the fastest of them all but also comes with "stock" aftermarket cooler (Guess that's one way of saying it?) so you don't have to spend upgrading on the cooler if you want to OC
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