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December 15, 2007 11:18:07 AM

ok ppl i am planning on buying a new video card about $400 and i ll have to take in
consideration the delivery because am an international buyer so about 400 to 450max with the delivery

i was thinking about the evga 8800gt ssc
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=2701...
but am not sure if it worth the money because with the delivery is $430

i don't know much about video cards so pls help

if u also can give me and a site that ships worldwide i ll be more than happy because i only know ebay

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December 15, 2007 11:26:58 AM

BUT.. US $385.00 plus 20 shipping is over 400 dollars.. Ouch! Hold on a few weeks till supply catches up with demand to get one for less than 300..

Ryan
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December 15, 2007 11:27:50 AM

r u bringing it to England (45 shipping?)
Ryan
December 15, 2007 12:09:55 PM

Try visiting komplett.com, one of my favorites for delivery in Europe.
December 15, 2007 12:14:40 PM

if u look hard enough ..its possible to get a 8800GT for $210...with $400 i would get 2 of them and SLI them.
December 15, 2007 12:25:39 PM

210 buckss? how about a hint in the right direction??
December 15, 2007 12:52:55 PM

The $210 8800GT is the 256MB version - not worth it.
December 15, 2007 1:50:57 PM

dell was selling the 512mb version for that cheap a while back.
December 15, 2007 2:00:51 PM

SEALBoy said:
The $210 8800GT is the 256MB version - not worth it.

Ironnads said:
210 buckss? how about a hint in the right direction??


Not sure if the deal is still going. But BESTBUY has some crazy coupon 12% off that can be applied to the 8800GT 512MB, which is only $238. I think the coupon expires tomorrow...however, it seems like the BFG 8800GT is sold out, at least online - might be some still in-store.

GeForce 8800 GT OC Graphics Card 512MB - $238
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8594381&s...

Coupon (10% & 12%): http://emailinfo.bestbuy.com/P/v3/CouponWrapper.asp?SID...;926826;1219769859;1;02&R=T1_CPN_50434&A=1007&ci=50434

So that means...$238 * 0.88 = $209.44

Yup $210 for a 8800GT. ZING.

Also, there was once a time you could get the 8800GT 512MB for $150 using Paypal discount + Dell.com...look at Source #2. Good deals are all about timing...and being one of the first one to notice...you really can get stuff for much cheaper than you think...just takes patiences and a lot of searching.

Source:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&t...
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=40&t...
a b U Graphics card
December 15, 2007 2:05:53 PM

@ qmalik [:wr2]

Very nice find. Probably deserves a new topic all its own.
a b U Graphics card
December 15, 2007 2:08:41 PM

Looks like the Anandtech forum guys got all the great deals.
December 15, 2007 3:26:51 PM

The GTS just hasn't impressed me. 10% more performance on average over the GT for roughly $125 more just doesn't add up in my head. Prices are going to have to stabilize at $275-280 to justify that minimal performance gain over the GT.
December 15, 2007 10:24:00 PM

thnks all

BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT OC is better than the evga 8800gt ssc
i dont mind paying that much if its the best i was just wondering if i could get something better with the same amount of money
December 16, 2007 10:10:05 AM

anyone?
December 16, 2007 11:07:41 AM

If you're ready to spend a little more than $400, i suggest you get TWO Radeon HD 3850 cards... the performance is much better than a single 8800GT or for that matter the ridiculous 8800 GTS 320.

Here are the benchmarks. Spend that dough wisely.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/607/8/
December 16, 2007 11:38:49 AM

mihirkula said:
or for that matter the ridiculous 8800 GTS 320.


Jesus - give us 320 owners a break already.

We didn't know about the impending 8800 GT or 3870 situation when we bought our cards. For a long time (in terms of GPU half life) the 320 was the best card for the money if you didn't go above 1600x1200.

It's overpriced NOW but back then it was the only sub $300 card that could be called high end.

I nominate the 320 for "most abused decent card" af all time. It's been unnecessarily trashed since the day it was released.

I just bought The Witcher; it runs great maxed out at 1680x1050.
December 17, 2007 1:35:05 PM

mihirkula said:
If you're ready to spend a little more than $400, i suggest you get TWO Radeon HD 3850 cards... the performance is much better than a single 8800GT or for that matter the ridiculous 8800 GTS 320.

Here are the benchmarks. Spend that dough wisely.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/607/8/



I'm not quite sure how two 3850s compares to one 8800GT considering the former costs $360 minimum and the latter can be had for $250ish. I would buy two 8800GT 256mb for $400 before I would go the 3850 route. Just my thoughts.
December 17, 2007 4:22:55 PM

nhobo said:
8800GTS G92 $360 + shipping. Beats the snot out of the GT.


ahh ..lol...no not really ..maybe 10% performance on some games....either way you forgot that it is $100+ more expensive than the 8800GT...you can get a 8800GT and a market heatsink for less and OC it way passed that...gg waste of money for the 8800GTS G92.

IMO: 8800GTS is worth $299...not a cent more.
December 17, 2007 5:23:17 PM

qmalik said:
you can get a 8800GT and a market heatsink for less and OC it way passed that....


Yeah, but you can do the same to an 8800 GTS 512mb and take it higher, too.
December 17, 2007 6:14:14 PM

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I'm not quite sure how two 3850s compares to one 8800GT considering the former costs $360 minimum and the latter can be had for $250ish. I would buy two 8800GT 256mb for $400 before I would go the 3850 route


1)One 8800GT canNOT be bought for 250ish at the moment. It costs 300ish.
2)The dude has a budget of $400 for the GPU.
3)One Radeon HD 3850 can very well be bought for $190 presently.
4)The performance of crossfire 3850 is much better compared to one $300 8800GT. (I've put the link to convince)

Cheers!

December 17, 2007 9:48:08 PM

About the 3850 crossfire solution:
There's only 256mb of ram while the 8800GT has 512. So 8800GT is better.

Anyways Fry's was selling the 8800GT 512mb for $70...
December 18, 2007 12:04:53 AM

cleeve said:
Yeah, but you can do the same to an 8800 GTS 512mb and take it higher, too.



thats not the point. the point is with $x amount you can get more performance with a 8800GT OCed with Heatsink than you can spending the same amount on a 8800GTS. Price : Performance ratio is higher on 8800GT.
December 18, 2007 2:52:39 AM

Evilonigiri said:
Anyways Fry's was selling the 8800GT 512mb for $70...


I'm assuming that was a typo...
December 18, 2007 11:54:07 AM

qmalik said:
thats not the point. the point is with $x amount you can get more performance with a 8800GT OCed with Heatsink than you can spending the same amount on a 8800GTS. Price : Performance ratio is higher on 8800GT.


But you could also overclock the 8800GTS with the stock heatsink.
December 18, 2007 1:23:07 PM

none of these really convince me... whens the 9000 rolling in?
December 18, 2007 6:16:50 PM

I've seen rumours of Q1 2008, but you never know until it's announced. I would be surprised if nVidia ran without a viable high end card for long, though.
December 18, 2007 6:57:06 PM

get two 3870s if u wanna spend slightly over $450, or get one 3870 and wait for another 1, or lastly get two 3850. Spending $450 or less to pass the 8800gtx sounds too good to me. Bestbuy is selling 3870 for $215 and 3850 for $160. Im saving up for another 3870!
December 18, 2007 6:57:40 PM

mihirkula said:
Quote:
I'm not quite sure how two 3850s compares to one 8800GT considering the former costs $360 minimum and the latter can be had for $250ish. I would buy two 8800GT 256mb for $400 before I would go the 3850 route


1)One 8800GT canNOT be bought for 250ish at the moment. It costs 300ish.
2)The dude has a budget of $400 for the GPU.
3)One Radeon HD 3850 can very well be bought for $190 presently.
4)The performance of crossfire 3850 is much better compared to one $300 8800GT. (I've put the link to convince)

Cheers!



Actually, I just bought my 8800gt from bestbuy.com on 12-11-07 for $255 shipped... delivered 3 days later. So yes, it can be had for 250ish... The 256mb 8800gt can be had for 205-210 and spanks a hd3850 *worth the extra 15-20 bucks IMHO. Haven't checked into SLI performance of 256mb 8800gt yet, but I'm guessing it bests crossfire 3850s for a few bucks more.

*Also 256mb 8800gt x 2 = $410-420
December 18, 2007 6:59:05 PM

or u could get the EVGA 8800gt 512mb and then step up to the 9series. But i dont think any 9 series cards for less than $400 will beat two 3950s, or maybe they will, what do i know?
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2007 8:00:26 PM

Ananan said:
Jesus - give us 320 owners a break already.

We didn't know about the impending 8800 GT or 3870 situation when we bought our cards. For a long time (in terms of GPU half life) the 320 was the best card for the money if you didn't go above 1600x1200.

It's overpriced NOW but back then it was the only sub $300 card that could be called high end.

I nominate the 320 for "most abused decent card" af all time. It's been unnecessarily trashed since the day it was released.

I just bought The Witcher; it runs great maxed out at 1680x1050.



QFT. Guess that the life when you live on the high end....
December 19, 2007 12:13:21 AM

Dunno why there is so much retarded debate on this question, the answer is 100% simple... 8800GTS G92 512MB... anyone who recommends Crossfire or SLI vs a nice single card solution like the G92 GTS 512MB is insane.

Please, to the OP... just buy the 8800GTS 512MB based on the G92 GPU and you'll really be quite happy. I know there were some quality issues with the release of the 8800GT... the fact that they are selling for so much more than they should and the fact that you CAN afford the better 8800GTS 512MB card makes this a no brainer...

Seriously, the 8800GTS 512MB is on par with the GTX at practical resolutions, it's a great deal, people are just so spoiled by the original price point of the 8800GT 512MB... I remember before the 8800GT people LOVED and critics LOVED the 8800GTS 320MB and they were going for 300... 8800GTS 512MB is definitely 100 bucks better than the 8800GTS 320MB...

Hopefully i've made a good point somewhere in my rambling rant.
December 19, 2007 12:48:13 PM

HoldDaMayo said:
Dunno why there is so much retarded debate on this question, the answer is 100% simple... 8800GTS G92 512MB... anyone who recommends Crossfire or SLI vs a nice single card solution like the G92 GTS 512MB is insane.

Please, to the OP... just buy the 8800GTS 512MB based on the G92 GPU and you'll really be quite happy. I know there were some quality issues with the release of the 8800GT... the fact that they are selling for so much more than they should and the fact that you CAN afford the better 8800GTS 512MB card makes this a no brainer...

Seriously, the 8800GTS 512MB is on par with the GTX at practical resolutions, it's a great deal, people are just so spoiled by the original price point of the 8800GT 512MB... I remember before the 8800GT people LOVED and critics LOVED the 8800GTS 320MB and they were going for 300... 8800GTS 512MB is definitely 100 bucks better than the 8800GTS 320MB...

Hopefully i've made a good point somewhere in my rambling rant.



But how can you justify the difference in price over the GT? The only reason SLI solutions were even brought up is because of the $400 budget. Two GTs in SLI will outperform a GTS 512 no problem. In any event, the 10% performance boost over the GT doesn't warrant the premium the GTS is going for IMHO.
December 19, 2007 1:36:54 PM

qmalik said:
thats not the point.


If that's not the point, why say "you can get a 8800GT and a market heatsink for less and OC it way passed that"?
a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2007 1:47:38 PM

I think Venom-X is long gone.
And he forgot to mention that he games at 1280x720 resolution.
December 19, 2007 1:57:29 PM

cleeve said:
If that's not the point, why say "you can get a 8800GT and a market heatsink for less and OC it way passed that"?


wrong. the point is not that "you can also OC the 8800GTS" but the point is that "you can get a 8800GT and a market heatsink for less and OC it way passed the 8800GTS". Per Dollar...8800GT gives you more...8800GTS is too expensive for the price.

The 8800GTS is not worth $90+ more than than 8800GT.
December 19, 2007 1:58:05 PM

@WR2
Then he doesn't need to spend $400 on a graphics card to get fluid framerates at high settings...
December 19, 2007 2:01:39 PM

Actually... my 8800GT cost me $220 shipped. Even though it was bad, RMA it back to eVGA... got a new card (one with bigger fan) and its working fine. So you just have to look hard enough to find deals.
December 19, 2007 2:25:31 PM

qmalik said:
the point is not that "you can also OC the 8800GTS" but the point is that "you can get a 8800GT and a market heatsink for less and OC it way passed the 8800GTS". Per Dollar...8800GT gives you more...8800GTS is too expensive for the price.


So basically you're suggesting that, when comparing two videocards, you can overclock the cheaper one to compare value but you're not allowed to overclock the more expensive one to compare value.

Well, if you can't see the massive flaw in that logic, I sure as hell can't explain it to you... :sarcastic: 

December 19, 2007 2:32:40 PM

mihirkula said:
If you're ready to spend a little more than $400, i suggest you get TWO Radeon HD 3850 cards... the performance is much better than a single 8800GT or for that matter the ridiculous 8800 GTS 320.

Here are the benchmarks. Spend that dough wisely.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/607/8/


Yes, just look at the review.

TurdBurglar said:
I'm not quite sure how two 3850s compares to one 8800GT considering the former costs $360 minimum and the latter can be had for $250ish. I would buy two 8800GT 256mb for $400 before I would go the 3850 route. Just my thoughts.


How can you not be sure and still suggest the GT route.
Its proven that 3850 is better than the 8800GT 256MB. Just watch the review above.

mihirkula said:

1)One 8800GT canNOT be bought for 250ish at the moment. It costs 300ish.
2)The dude has a budget of $400 for the GPU.
3)One Radeon HD 3850 can very well be bought for $190 presently.
4)The performance of crossfire 3850 is much better compared to one $300 8800GT. (I've put the link to convince)

Cheers!


Yep.

Evilonigiri said:
About the 3850 crossfire solution:
There's only 256mb of ram while the 8800GT has 512. So 8800GT is better.

Anyways Fry's was selling the 8800GT 512mb for $70...


Crossfired HD3850 can have 512MB (256 * 2) to 1GB or ram...

TurdBurglar said:
Actually, I just bought my 8800gt from bestbuy.com on 12-11-07 for $255 shipped... delivered 3 days later. So yes, it can be had for 250ish... The 256mb 8800gt can be had for 205-210 and spanks a hd3850 *worth the extra 15-20 bucks IMHO. Haven't checked into SLI performance of 256mb 8800gt yet, but I'm guessing it bests crossfire 3850s for a few bucks more.

*Also 256mb 8800gt x 2 = $410-420


Same as above, HD3850 > 8800GT 256MB, so two of each doubles the margin.


I suggest you to buy a 8800GT if you can get it around 300 or less, The 512MB version. 256MB and 8800 just doesn't go well.
But for 400$ you can get 2xHD3850 which are better.

December 19, 2007 3:08:17 PM

TurdBurglar said:
"How can you not be sure and still suggest the GT route.
Its proven that 3850 is better than the 8800GT 256MB. Just watch the review above."

That's odd...
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/xfx_geforce_8800_gt...
Firingsquad says otherwise...


The XFX 256mb 8800gt actually outperforms the HD3870 at 1280x1024 high quality...

Firing Squad used newer drivers (169.09) by the way, LegitReviews used 169.05.
December 19, 2007 4:38:45 PM

"Same as above, HD3850 > 8800GT 256MB, so two of each doubles the margin."

Neither crossfire nor sli performance can be directly interpolated from single card performance.
December 19, 2007 4:55:28 PM

cleeve said:
So basically you're suggesting that, when comparing two videocards, you can overclock the cheaper one to compare value but you're not allowed to overclock the more expensive one to compare value.

Well, if you can't see the massive flaw in that logic, I sure as hell can't explain it to you... :sarcastic: 


hey if you think the 8800GTS is worth an extra $100 go for it..but your only in denial. =P

Don't overclock, overclock only 1, or overclock both....8800GT is a better value.
December 19, 2007 5:31:15 PM

I never said it was necessarily worth it or not. The GTS might be a better buy if you have a large monitor and play exclusively at high resolutions, but that's neither here nor there... it wasn't my point.

I merely pointed out that if you're going to compare two cards, declaring one of them a winner because of it's overclocked performance - without considering the other one's overclocking performance - is using _severely_ flawed logic, as BOTH cards can be overclocked, maintaining the same performance spread per $$.

If you're still having trouble wrapping your head around that, you can call it denial if it makes you feel better. I'll understand. :D 
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