firs of all, is this chip good for overclocking? i did a little looking for my self, and im still uneasy.
also i have almost no idea how to put togeather a good watercooling rig. PLEASE......please help me with this. i need to get all the parts for cooling for about $600-$800. cheaper is good, but i would like a good setup. this is a chance for you all to "spend someones money"
Not to pour cold water on your plan but if you have these questions shouldn't you practice on a less costly chip? Besides you can match the QX9770 OC with a QX9650.
Message edited by Craxbax on 05-12-2008 at 06:14:01 PM
Watercooling isn't that scary and dangerous. Just make sure the loop(s) have run for a while by jumpering your PSU and checking for leaks. Also, use some good coolant additives to reduce the conductivity of the water. What do you need to know? I've watercooled for 5 years...its a lot of fun and works when you get the right components. Plus, there is that DIY factor that is always fun when you get to do something 'different than everyone else'....well at least most everyone you know.
($600 will get you some pretty good stuff. Even $300 will get you sitting decent...depends on components and how many blocks you want to run...)
Message edited by rubix_1011 on 05-12-2008 at 05:08:57 PM
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Remove the warning labels; evolution should take care of the rest.
Do yourself a favor and learn a little about computers before you invest $1000s of dollars on something that you might destroy with a accident like a leak.
You could build a bad ass system at 4.0+ on air for the price of that CPU. Some people have more money then brains.
q9450 or q9550 would work just as good for $100s less. The extreme doesnt get any higher clocks then these other processors. These run at 1600+ FSB as well.
I wouldn't get a 9770. The QX9650 will do just as many Mhz when overclocking. My 9650 goes to 4Ghz @ 333Mhz fsb 100% stable. I really dont agree that you can match a 9650 with a 9450 or 9550 simply because most motherboards require a lot of tuning to get the fsb high enough to make those Mhz. To get 4Ghz on a Q9450 for example you will need a 625Mhz fsb which is insane. Without a lot of motherboard cooling and tuning i doubt a Q9450 can make 4Ghz. The QX9650 was easy, 333Mhz fsb and raise the multiplier up a couple notches and BAM, its that easy.
+1 on the not-knowing-what-I'm-doing-and -buying-a-$1000-CPU comment. It's like buying a Ferrari and saying "now teach me to drive and repair my car". Start with a Pinto, work your way up.
I wouldn't get a 9770. The QX9650 will do just as many Mhz when overclocking. My 9650 goes to 4Ghz @ 333Mhz fsb 100% stable. I really dont agree that you can match a 9650 with a 9450 or 9550 simply because most motherboards require a lot of tuning to get the fsb high enough to make those Mhz. To get 4Ghz on a Q9450 for example you will need a 625Mhz fsb which is insane. Without a lot of motherboard cooling and tuning i doubt a Q9450 can make 4Ghz. The QX9650 was easy, 333Mhz fsb and raise the multiplier up a couple notches and BAM, its that easy.
The q9450 needs 500 FSB for 4.0 8x multi. Not 625. 500 is quite capable on a x38/48 mobo, even on "some"(for dagger) higend P35s.
The q9550 needs 470.
If your overclocking, the premium for extreme CPUS is not worth it at all. However, if you want the best money can buy without overclocking, your only option is extreme CPUs.
Anyone that buys a $1000+ CPU and only takes it up to 4.0-4.2 just done wasted themselves alot of cash.
gah, dunno where the heck that number came from lol. You are right RR its only 500Mhz fsb.
As to your comment about the extreme. The reason i bought that chip was because it was a 45nm quad available months before any other 45nm quad was out, and it had the unlocked multiplier. Yeah it cost a lot, but im happy with 4Ghz, and esspecially happy with the fact that it was so little trouble to get it to 4Ghz. Maybe a Q9450/Q9550 is a better deal now, but those weren't around 3 months ago.
My friend's Q9300 stalled out at 473MHz (3.550GHz) on a Rampage Formula and Corsair Dominators (4x2GB). It was perfectly stable at 473MHz. 474MHz didn't even make POST. RAM was very loose at 5-5-5-15 and still quite far from 533MHz.
My friend's Q9300 stalled out at 473MHz (3.550GHz) on a Rampage Formula and Corsair Dominators (4x2GB). It was perfectly stable at 473MHz. 474MHz didn't even make POST. RAM was very loose at 5-5-5-15 and still quite far from 533MHz.
Some Mobos/CPUs have FSB holes. It very well might post at 500. You just got to play with it. Sometimes my wiener wont get hard unless I play with it long enough.
Some Mobos/CPUs have FSB holes. It very well might post at 500. You just got to play with it. Sometimes my wiener wont get hard unless I play with it long enough.
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Yes, I use an Intel Quad. Sometimes its a little overclocked, sometimes a bit underclocked. Yet, its always nice and the virtualiztion is sick. And?
@RoadRunner197069
I tested every setting from 474-533MHz and then I gave up (no POST).
I've also never heard of the RAMPAGE having FSB holes. The Q9300 just hits "73H W411". Sad but it's a 250EUR chip (or 2 of them). 473 flawless but a notch over VID (1.2V).
466 flawless @ VID. 3.5GHz is nice number.
The chip can do 4GHz I'm sure. There's just no way to get it there...
@halcyon
No. Not that it matters but it explains her persistance.
Message edited by Andrius on 05-12-2008 at 10:14:48 PM
Haha i see someone else has noticed this about him.
