For those who don't know, I work at Intel in the OPD factory which stands for Oregon Packaging and Distribution. basically what I do is help to make and distribute product that you see at store shelves or at online retailers. Well today we made product that we had never before made. It was a new, lighter blue box with a green sticker on it. I asked a fellow co-worker to bring a box to me so i could see what it was up closer. Turns out that green sticker is the "45nm" sticker and the box is for all the Core 2 processors! So I looked at one of the chips we were helping to package and ship out. This processor was the Core 2 Duo E8400. The following specs were...
Interesting to note, is that the processor uses the latest Celeron fans. Which made no sense to me until i figured that these things must REALLY use a lot less heat. granted out Core 2 Duo E6600's and higher use a rather large, copper and aluminum heatsink.
I'll give you more information when i return back home, but right now I have to head out and take care of some errands. This is really interesting news as I seriously can not find this product out on the amrket right now. I asked my supervisor if it was a pre-packaging for unreleased product, and he said it was released on November 12th. So I don't know, but I would like to share this with you any ways and conclude that Intel is already packaging and distributing its 45nm products.
Thanks for the head's up on this. I'm figuring on building in January, so will keep this in mind. The fan size seems small, but I always toss the factory heatsink/fans anyway and put on aftermarket stuff for overclocking.
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A.) Thanks for the info - although I don't know if your management appreciates you letting us know this (it's semi-public knowledge).
B.) I thought Intel did all it's packaging operations overseas since it's cheaper. Or are you the one who takes the boxed up all pretty package from overseas and puts a bunch of them together in a big box for a customer?
It's a Wolfdale (dualcore). The rumored delayed chips are the Yorkfield quads (Q9300, Q9450 and Q9550).
The E8400 was announced a while back, and is supposed to be out in early January. If you Google around, there are a few ES reviews: http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7096.html
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Granted my supervisor said it was "announced" I felt that disclosing this information was perfectly acceptable.
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B.) I thought Intel did all it's packaging operations overseas since it's cheaper. Or are you the one who takes the boxed up all pretty package from overseas and puts a bunch of them together in a big box for a customer?
They make the processors overseas, we primarily have them located in Malaysia and Costa Rica. In fact if you look on any Intel CPU it'll have the S-SPEC than will either say MALAY or COSTA. That's how you'll know where the chip was actually made.
What we do however, is take those chips, put them in the boxes, put on all the fancy labels and security tags, than put'em on pallets and ship them out to customers. there's more to it but that's really it in a nutshell.
What shocked me though the most was the fan size. it is EXACTLY the same fan as the Celerons use. I deal with thousands upon thousands of these things on a weekly basis so I know it to be true. The only difference is the part number. The normal fans we use on most Core 2 Duo/Quad products have the D60188-001 product number, we also have D75716-001 which is the Celeron heatsink fan product number.
Also, the S-SPEC for the E8400 was SLAPR if I recall. Could have been SLABR, I had to memorize it kind of quickly. So forgive me if that is off. but it is one of the two!
Thanks for the clarification, exit2dos. I'm one of the guys who was really waiting for a yorky on Jan 20 and is now very disapointed if its delayed!
While I personally do not know if it will be delayed or not, or if anyone at our campus would know, I will ask around and try to provide some sort of an answer for you.
They make the processors overseas, we primarily have them located in Malaysia and Costa Rica. In fact if you look on any Intel CPU it'll have the S-SPEC than will either say MALAY or COSTA. That's how you'll know where the chip was actually made.
What we do however, is take those chips, put them in the boxes, put on all the fancy labels and security tags, than put'em on pallets and ship them out to customers. there's more to it but that's really it in a nutshell.
And by making the processors overseas, what you really mean is the wafers are manufactured in the US, Ireland, and Israel, then they go to the third world countries to be cut into the individual die and put in CPU packages (not the boxes, the actual packages that allow communication from the die to the socket). So then they come back to the US just to be put in colorful boxes? I wonder why they don't do that in the same place they cut up the die and put them in CPU packages - it would be just another little part of the assembly line.
This does not breach any contract agreement whatsoever between Intel and Myself.
With the help of a few members, and some Google searching, it turns out that the very information I posted can in fact be found on the internet already. Thus deeming what I posted as "null."
Hope this clears up some of the things people PMed me, and I hope you all find the reviews of the E8400 and it's spec to be of some use to yourselves; as the CPU is really interesting and will be available for purchase in the very near future. Thank you.
Message edited by justinmcg67 on 12-21-2007 at 10:19:27 PM
Thanks for the find. When i did a Google search on the CPU it did pop up a few sales results but I wasn't sure how accurate they'd be. But thank you for that find.
Well Justin according to one guy who got his hands on a QX9650 he showed the SpeedFan temps and when OC'ed to 4GHz(on air non the less) compared to a QX6850 it was about 20c cooler. The QX6850 was running at 50-55c and the QX9650 was running at 30-35c if I remember correctly.
So the heatsink fan makes sense. But imagine pairing that with a nice Zalman CPNS 9700. Could get it to 4GHz on air and keep it at 30c all the time. Well don't forget the Arctic Silver 5. I want the specs on the Q9450. Its my dream to get me one of them and OC it to 3.2GHz at least. It would go great with my Corsair XMS2 PC1066 since that ram OCs really easily(has 2.2v max memory voltage).
if you kow what i mean?
