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The 3850 is a better deal than the 8800 gt but has bad drivers......

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December 19, 2007 7:01:01 PM

Arghhhh,

I am still debating between the ATI 3850 256MB and Nvidia 8800 gt 256MB. The 8800 gt's price is too close to the 512 version. And the 3850 seems to be having a lot of driver problems. Which one????? Is there anyone who is running the 3850 with Vista home premium 32 bit with no problems? I can't afford over 200 bucks.
December 19, 2007 7:12:58 PM

Neither the 8800 or the 3850 have the greatest drivers atm. Many 8800GT users are still having lock-ups and crashes in their games. That being said, I don't think you can go wrong either way.

If you're going to run at 1440x900 or below, then go for the 8800GT 256MB for about $200 or the HD 3850 for about $160-170. All driver issues will be worked out soon, at least they better be based on the shear volume of customers for both of the aforementioned cards.

Anyways, don't let it bug you too much. If you have to, flip a coin, you should be happy with either card = they will greatly exceed the capabilities of your integrated grahpics. :) 
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December 19, 2007 7:29:45 PM

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This one is only $210


$20 more buys me a 512 8800 gt.

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If you're going to run at 1440x900 or below


well my native res is 1680x1050. But I can sacrice some res for more performence.

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All driver issues will be worked out soon


I heard that the 7.11 and 7.12 drivers for the 3850 stunk and that they are working on the 7.13 ones. I also heard that the 7.10 drivers did fine though.......

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Anyways, don't let it bug you too much


Too late I have been bugged by this question since November...... :pt1cable: 

December 19, 2007 7:51:17 PM

physx7 said:

I heard that the 7.11 and 7.12 drivers for the 3850 stunk and that they are working on the 7.13 ones. I also heard that the 7.10 drivers did fine though.......


7.12 drivers? Have I missed something??
December 19, 2007 11:21:03 PM

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looking at your comp i can see why :p 


What is wrong with my computer?
December 19, 2007 11:56:27 PM

Erm 7.11 are the newest ATI drivers out atm. As for problems i've had hell with them but for a single card setup the 7.10 drivers work best or maybe the 7.11 with the crysis hotfix. Go 3850 over 8800. The 8800 does draw more money from your pocket it's that damn lure of slightly more power, but honestly a 3850 is great for the price.
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2007 12:08:38 AM

You can't install the 7.11 drivers and the crysis hotfix because the crysis hotfix is just another driver.
December 20, 2007 12:13:00 AM

If you read your details in CCC --> Information Center --> Graphics Software you will notice the Crysis hotfix is a modified 7.11 driver still. Just the way i typed it didn't sound clear i suppose. In my defence i have just finished a night shift :kaola: .
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2007 12:14:22 AM

Righto, got ya. And I know what that's like, I had a night shift last night and another tonight. *sigh*
December 20, 2007 12:16:36 AM

Roll on christmas, only 1 night left then 2 weeks of leave wahoo ;) . Hope you ain't working crimbo time.
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2007 12:29:41 AM

Nope, I'm avoiding that. I still got tonight and saturday. Then I got enough cash for a HD3870 w00t!
December 20, 2007 12:51:44 AM

You'll enjoy a 3870 from the x1950. I have the 1950 but 512 in my second rig, power hungry little devil :sweat: ( i went through 3 thats right 3 PSU's to get it going a Hiper580 wasn't enough!!). If i disable crossfire i still max every game i own bar Crysis so i'm sure you'll be grinning like a 'sane' person in an insane asylem :p .
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2007 1:52:18 AM

Not sure if it's really worth getting though. When is a really BIG upgrade from my pro coming along?
December 20, 2007 2:13:55 AM

I won't be doing any SLI or Crossfire just a single card.

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Erm 7.11 are the newest ATI drivers out atm


Sorry I must have gotten something confused. :) 
December 20, 2007 2:21:31 AM

physx7 said:
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This one is only $210


$20 more buys me a 512 8800 gt.

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If you're going to run at 1440x900 or below


well my native res is 1680x1050. But I can sacrice some res for more performence.

Quote:
All driver issues will be worked out soon


I heard that the 7.11 and 7.12 drivers for the 3850 stunk and that they are working on the 7.13 ones. I also heard that the 7.10 drivers did fine though.......

Quote:
Anyways, don't let it bug you too much


Too late I have been bugged by this question since November...... :pt1cable: 


I just got the 3850 JUST RIGHT NOW and the 7.10 drivers refuse to install, but the 7.11 installs fine. Also, I keep getting an error related to MS Framework, WTF?
December 20, 2007 2:33:46 AM

MS Framework error usually means you have to update the Microsoft .NET framework to the newest version.
a b U Graphics card
December 20, 2007 2:50:26 AM

You don't need .NET 3.0 I'm pretty sure, just 2.0 (the latest). Maybe vista needs 3.0, can't remember.
December 20, 2007 4:22:32 AM

I saw a review of the 8800GT 256 version over at legitreviews, and they put it almost dead even with the HD3850 (they traded being on top in various games).

Since that's the case, I'd either go with the 3850 or the 3870, since one is a bargain, and the other performs better.
December 20, 2007 6:55:34 AM

randomizer said:
You don't need .NET 3.0 I'm pretty sure, just 2.0 (the latest). Maybe vista needs 3.0, can't remember.

I think 2.0 is fine for Vista.
MS already has 3.5 out
December 20, 2007 8:44:35 AM

You don't need to install .NET on Vista for CCC. .NET 3.0 is included and it can run both .NET 2.0 and 3.0 applications. As for .NET 3.5, like its predecessor, just a superset of 3.0 so it can run 3.5, 3.0 and 2.0 .NET applications.
December 20, 2007 11:42:11 AM

If the 8800GT 512 is only $20 more than the 8800GT 256 then your choice should be between the 8800GT 512 and the 3850.
December 20, 2007 12:24:25 PM

lol still deciding, I think it was your first post here a few months ago that you asked about video cards..

PS I agree with ethel.
December 20, 2007 12:39:40 PM

"http://www.legitreviews.com/article/607/8/"

Wow, just me that thought it strange, that they had so high settings even the GTX struggles at <30 frames?
If you crank up the settings so the amount of memory is used up, you will not even get a frame at that particular test.
Who says that a 256MB card should even attempt a benchmark at 19x12 with filters enabled?
I wouldn't recommend any card other then the Ultra or SLI/Xfire if even the GTX struggled.
Those benches just told me to go with a GTS 512 or higher.
December 20, 2007 12:52:05 PM

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lol still deciding, I think it was your first post here a few months ago that you asked about video cards..

PS I agree with ethel


It was a few months back and that was my first question. So I have been ''suffering'' with intergrated. Yeah I agree with Ethel too..... Sooooo if 200 bones is my limit and the 8800 gt 512 is over 200 then using deductive reasoning the 3850 would be the clear choice. I just didn't want any driver trouble, so I guess I will just grab a 3850.

Anyone know the best brand and place to purchase? I was going to get it off the Egg or Bestbuy.

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I just got the 3850 JUST RIGHT NOW and the 7.10 drivers refuse to install, but the 7.11 installs fine. Also, I keep getting an error related to MS Framework


What OS do you use?
December 20, 2007 1:31:52 PM

Before everyone jumps to too many conclusions about the hd3850 being so much better than the 8800gt 256mb, the firingsquad review should probably be considered since they used newer drivers than legitreviews. The 8800gt 256 outperforms the hd3850 at 1280x1024 in nearly every game by large margins in some cases. The hd3850 is a great deal for the money, but for ~$30 more the 8800gt 256mb offers a noticeable performance boost that many consider worth it.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/xfx_geforce_8800_gt...
December 20, 2007 4:20:04 PM

physx7, I'm on Windows XP Media Center Edition.
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