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So I'm having an issue with my new 1.5 Terabyte Seagate drive, the most I can format out of it is 1020Gigs, leaving a vast chunk unused.

I don't know what the issue is, I've updated my BIOS and Mobo Drivers and checked everything I can think of with no luck.
I don't know what it could be, I'm sure it's something simple but at the moment I just can't think of what it is.

My comp specs are:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450
eVga 780i Mobo
4 Gigs PC-6400 Mushkin DDR2
Dual eVga GeForce 260's in SLI
1 x 80 Gig SATA Maxtor
1 x 1TB SATA Hitachi
1 x 1.5TB SATA Seagate (the problem drive)

Running Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2

Lemme know if I missed anything.

Anyways, hope one of you guys can help, as I am at a complete loss.

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Yeah, I'm trying to partition it but it won't let me partition any more than 1020GB's, afterwards, the leftover 300GB's sits there unallocated =(

Reply to mystic5hadow

what if you make a second partition with those 300Gb. Is that possible?

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Reply to blashyrkh

I'd say you have a BIOS problem. It cannot recognize the size of the drive, it is too large. Used to be a common problem several years ago as drives started growing over 300 -400 megabytes. Most BIOS's of the time would not recognize the suddenly larger drives that were becoming available.
I would say you need a BIOS update. There used to use a program called a "Dynamic Drive Overlay" to work around this problem, but I think today you just probably update your BIOS. Check the Nvidia website as well for fixes or work arounds.

Reply to jitpublisher

jitpublisher suggests a BIOS update is needed, and refers to older solutions like DDO's. He / she is right in one sense - you do not want to play with DDO's these days - it should be done with the right BIOS.

On the other hand, a BIOS update for large drives usually refers to the change from 28-bit to 48-bit LBA support. That is what allows you to go above the 137 GB size up to petabytes, whatever monster that is. This began to be incuded around year 2000. More importantly, it is ALWAYS part of any SATA controller system, because SATA was released with that support from its beginnings. And of course, XP SP2 has 48-bit LBA support in it. So I doubt it is a BIOS problem.

So, what IS the trouble? I don't know. I thought XP SP2 has some limit on the max size of one volume (partition) even though it can handle huge drives, but my fuzzy memory says that is around 2 TB, not 1. Maybe I'm wrong there.


Message edited by Paperdoc on 10-28-2008 at 05:30:32 PM
Reply to Paperdoc

I think the format limit for XP was under SP1.

Reply to Jim_L9

I've tried everything I can think of, the drive shows the full size in the Disk Manager, BIOS, etc, etc.

I even replaced it with a new one from the store I got it from and had the same issue.

I updated drivers, BIOS, everything I could think of with no luck.

However, I read that Vista is having a similar issue with the drive, I'm using XP though so I don't see why I would be having the issue, but clearly something is up.

Either way, I stopped short of booting into a *nix live CD and checking the drive with that mainly because I just moved and don't have access to a blank CD/DVD right now. Regardless, it's just causing me a headache and everyone I talks to can't come up with a reason as to why this is going on.

So I'm returning the drive and picking up a second 1 Terabyte drive.

Thanks for trying to help guys =3

Reply to mystic5hadow

The only problem I had was for some reason I couldn't format from my XP install but from windows I had no problem formatting with seatools. They are fine in either Vista or XP sp3. For what I use them for they are very fast (mostly recodring and editing HD TV shows).

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Reply to Ancient_1

Win XPx64 here. Just added the Seagate 1.5TB to my 2 - 500GB Samsungs, I am starting to approach full on #2 with a lot of ripped TV shows from my DVDs.
I also had XP showing .99TB after a long format.
Under Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Disk Management I right-clicked the drive in question (ST31500343AS) and deleted the original partition I set up with my XP disk, then set it up again and quick formatted and now it shows 1.36TB, which is closer to acceptable than .99TB.
Simple as that, I guess.


Message edited by arpharazon on 11-08-2008 at 06:10:32 AM
Reply to arpharazon

1.36 is the correct number.

Reply to cjl

Thanks. I wasn't 100% sure, I know it's never exactly what the drive size is supposed to be. I'm just glad it was such an easy fix (for a change).

Reply to arpharazon

I can't believe the best info for this fix is found as a link in an item description on ebay - unbelievable...

Reply to reillyman

Hi,

I know its an old issue but if there are other users who faced the exact same problem, maybe this would help them. I had the same trouble with the same HDD. I am using a Gigabyte motherboard with nVidia chipset. I installed the latest driver of nVidia downloaded from nvidia.com. Then i could format the HDD.

PS: The ad at ebay was deleted so i could not see the solution in that page. If it was suggesting the same solution, sorry in advance.

aphilic



mystic5hadow wrote :

I've tried everything I can think of, the drive shows the full size in the Disk Manager, BIOS, etc, etc.

I even replaced it with a new one from the store I got it from and had the same issue.

I updated drivers, BIOS, everything I could think of with no luck.

However, I read that Vista is having a similar issue with the drive, I'm using XP though so I don't see why I would be having the issue, but clearly something is up.

Either way, I stopped short of booting into a *nix live CD and checking the drive with that mainly because I just moved and don't have access to a blank CD/DVD right now. Regardless, it's just causing me a headache and everyone I talks to can't come up with a reason as to why this is going on.

So I'm returning the drive and picking up a second 1 Terabyte drive.

Thanks for trying to help guys =3


Reply to aphilic

Hy all
i also have sadly exactly the same problem like aphilic.

What was written on the ebay-site?

I also can't format over 1024 or รค similar GB size.

I tried everything. Formating on Vista, XP, format with an extern S-ATA to USB. No way to format the whole disk!

Who can help us? P-L-E-A-S-E!!!

Reply to bluethon

People having issues with this drive should download SeaTools for DOS, click I Accept, fill out the form, download the file, create either a bootable floppy or CD/DVD, restart the computer and boot from that floppy or disc. You may need to use a PS2 keyboard or mouse to navigate SeaTools. Press F10 to bypass the disclaimer. You'll have to select an option from one of the drop-down menus indicating Set To Max Native. You may get an error saying "check to be sure that the drive has been power cycled", but this can be ignored. Restart the computer and boot up as normal. Check under Disk Management and you should now see that the drive is at its capacity (approximately 1.36TB).

Reply to molotovbadass

I cannot argue with molotovbada's suggestion since I have never tried that program before. In my post I tried to explain my solution. Did you try updating the chipset driver of your motherboard? My suggestion is to try to find out the brand of CHIPSET (not motherboard) and go directly to the homepage of the chipset and download the appropriate and latest driver, then install it. In my case, my motherboard's brand was Gigabyte and the chipset of the motherboard was NVidia. The latest drives of the motherboard including the chipset in Gigabyte's website did not work. I downloaded the latest chipset driver from NVidia's webpage, and made it work properly.

I suggest you to do the same. Hope it works.

aphilic


bluethon wrote :

Hy all
i also have sadly exactly the same problem like aphilic.

What was written on the ebay-site?

I also can't format over 1024 or รค similar GB size.

I tried everything. Formating on Vista, XP, format with an extern S-ATA to USB. No way to format the whole disk!

Who can help us? P-L-E-A-S-E!!!


Reply to aphilic

Just purchased a Seagate 1.5TB - ST31500341AS with firmware CC1H

I also cannot format this drive under Vista 64 bit to its full 1.5TB capacity.

I also cannot partition the drive to anything over around 800 Gigs and the remaining free space cannot be sub-partitioned.

When you do format to around 800 Gigs the drive seems ok.

I am using the drive in an Asus P5N32-E SLI motherboard with an nvidia based chipset.

Well I havent had much luck updating my nvidia SATA drivers for Vista 64-bit. Either i cant find the right driver or im reading lots of feedback which has caused more hassle than its worth so I decided against updating.

I did read an article which says to mount the drive in an external USB enclosure or ICY box mount and this appears to work.

Reply to nthomas4

What link on nvidia's homepage did you goto to get hold of the latest SATA chipset driver?

cheers!!

aphilic wrote :

I cannot argue with molotovbada's suggestion since I have never tried that program before. In my post I tried to explain my solution. Did you try updating the chipset driver of your motherboard? My suggestion is to try to find out the brand of CHIPSET (not motherboard) and go directly to the homepage of the chipset and download the appropriate and latest driver, then install it. In my case, my motherboard's brand was Gigabyte and the chipset of the motherboard was NVidia. The latest drives of the motherboard including the chipset in Gigabyte's website did not work. I downloaded the latest chipset driver from NVidia's webpage, and made it work properly.

I suggest you to do the same. Hope it works.

aphilic



Reply to nthomas4

There have been many problems with the 1.5 TB seagate drives and personally I have found that the issue is the drives themselves... did you try exchanging for another 1.5 TB? I have 8 of them on an Areca RAID card in a RAID 5 as a single 10.5 TB partition and have had to replace a total of 3 of the drives due to failure... but I read online in multiple forums that many experienced issues with this drive. I suggest choosing another model or exchange it. I finally have my RAID 5 working properly so hopefully no replacement anytime soon....

Reply to asusdude24

Hy
A week ago i had the problem to formate the whole 1.5 TB
But now i found a way to solve this problem after several contacts with seagate.
My computer cut it self the drive to 500 GB (this can be a famous problem with DELL computers).
So here is the solution i used (after Dell had to change my mainboard because of a hardware defect - but this shouldn't be important)

1. go on seagate.com an click "Donwload Center"
2. choose unter General Software "SeaTools - diagnostic software"
3. click "Download SeaTools for DOS now! "
4. download the image and burn on a CD
5. boot from the CD
6. choose your 1.5 TB drive
7. choose under "Advanced..." the option
8. set capacity to the MAX (so you get the whole space back)
9. then you should be able to formate your whole drive with a quickformat in windows and use it

Hope this works also for others!!

Reply to bluethon

I have a similar yet slightly different problem, I think. My drive did format completely and you can see the full size, however, you cannot use anything over 1TB. The computer will just freeze if you try to add more to the drive. I haven't tried the seagate tool, but it looks like that will erase all of the data on the drive. I will try this if that's what it takes, but I would like to be sure that this will solve the problem before I go through the trouble. Does this look like the same issue?

Reply to goose61282

goose61282 wrote :

I have a similar yet slightly different problem, I think. My drive did format completely and you can see the full size, however, you cannot use anything over 1TB. The computer will just freeze if you try to add more to the drive. I haven't tried the seagate tool, but it looks like that will erase all of the data on the drive. I will try this if that's what it takes, but I would like to be sure that this will solve the problem before I go through the trouble. Does this look like the same issue?



yes similar but different way: ST31500341AS ver: CCH1, winXP 64 bit, ntfs single partition and long format.

here is my chkdsk results:
1465136000 KB total disk space.
47265804 KB in 9 files.
16 KB in 13 indexes.
391372928 KB in bad sectors. <---------------
110732 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
1026386520 KB available on disk.

Reply to BasePointer

SeaTools for DOS and setting capacity to the MAX didn't solve the problem.

Reply to BasePointer

To those still suffering from this problem my story might be of some assistance.

Last week i purchased a 1.5TB Seagate drive, got home and it would only format to 73% on a normal drive format (That is around 1TB i think) and quick format would not work.

I could however format the drive to 1TB with no issues, the remainder could not be used - it just generated errors.

My motherboard is a MSI P6N, nforce chipset. So i went onto the nvidia.com website, grabbed the latest nforce drivers, installed those, rebooted the machine and formatting worked like a charm.

For all those with an nforce chipset i would highly recommend doing this.

Reply to Toohey

I have had the same problem on a Dell XPS 600. I tried updating the nvidia drivers, but after several attempts, updating the drivers did not complete successfully and aborted. The fix I finally employed was to use a freeware version of Partition Master 3.5 by EASUS. I created a 500GB partition and formatted it, leaving the remainder unallocated. I then resized the disk using the same program and, so far, it works perfectly. Shows correctly in explorer and I have copied/read/executed files/programs on these partitions.

Reply to bg2

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Reply to Anonymous

Toohey wrote :

To those still suffering from this problem my story might be of some assistance.

Last week i purchased a 1.5TB Seagate drive, got home and it would only format to 73% on a normal drive format (That is around 1TB i think) and quick format would not work.

I could however format the drive to 1TB with no issues, the remainder could not be used - it just generated errors.

My motherboard is a MSI P6N, nforce chipset. So i went onto the nvidia.com website, grabbed the latest nforce drivers, installed those, rebooted the machine and formatting worked like a charm.

For all those with an nforce chipset i would highly recommend doing this.



If you have Vista and an nVidia chipset, this Knowledge Base article on Seagate's web-site will explain the problem and provide the link to the newer driver that supports more than 1.1TB.
http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/ [...] %7C+format

Reply to jdmmba

I have an HP Pavilion a6230n running 32 bit Windows Vista and just installed the nVidia chipset updated drivers from the jdmmba link above (note that these drivers *include* SATA chipset support, which makes sense there could be a connection). For my particular PC it was the 6150SE nForce 430 driver set, but it could be different for yours.

 

At the moment I type this I have gotten past the original problems where I couldn't even do a Quick Format of the "higher" partition. Both partitions were created and quick formatted to 698Meg, I am now taking the cautious approach of full formatting both but that will take a long time. I will post again if I have later problems.


Message edited by legacyprog on 07-04-2009 at 08:15:21 PM
Reply to legacyprog

I had a problem formatting a Seagate 1.5 drive on a Dell XPS running Win xp pro x64. You could not format anything (quick or long) over 1TB using Win disk manager. Kept getting the "could not complete" error message.
Found a freeware partition program (Easeus Partition Manager Home Edition 4.0.1
on www.download.com) and tried that.

To my amasement, the little freeware program was able to fully format the drive in less than 3 min.

Reply to davo1958

I bought a new WD 2TB Green Caviar and was experiencing the same issue as everyone else with Vista...get to 54% format and then...NOTHING. This utility solved the problem. The BIOS of my Gateway machine recognized the drive as 2TB. Vista just sucks.

Reply to dbacksfanbrian

in order to read drives above 137 gb you need XP SP3

Reply to Anonymous

jdmmba wrote :

If you have Vista and an nVidia chipset, this Knowledge Base article on Seagate's web-site will explain the problem and provide the link to the newer driver that supports more than 1.1TB.
http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/ [...] %7C+format



thanks! :bounce:

Reply to joeman42

I added a second 1.5 TB HDD and I could not get it formatted in Vista - not even in Computer Management. THIS message below did the trick! Thank you very much!!

davo1958 wrote :

I had a problem formatting a Seagate 1.5 drive on a Dell XPS running Win xp pro x64. You could not format anything (quick or long) over 1TB using Win disk manager. Kept getting the "could not complete" error message.
Found a freeware partition program (Easeus Partition Manager Home Edition 4.0.1
on www.download.com) and tried that.

To my amasement, the little freeware program was able to fully format the drive in less than 3 min.


Reply to ungozer

Had the same issue with a Samsing HD154UI in a Compaq Presario SR5220AN. Updated the drivers for the chipset nForce 430/GeForce 6150SE from here [url=http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_vista_15.23.html][/url] for Vista 32bit now all works fine. Thanks to all for the help.

Reply to gt200

I had the same problem as a user above (vista would freeze on a 2TB drive at 54%). I tried the Seagate DOS utility but it would kick out when i selected my Hitachi 2TB drive.

I downloaded and installed Easeus Partition Manager Home Edition 4.1.1 from download.com. This program solved the problem for me. It took longer for the program to install then it took to format my 2TB drive!

Problem solved!

Reply to atjaguarx

Download diskwizard from Seagate website: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/.
This will fully solve youre problems, it worked for me.

Reply to rohannel

Solution Found :
I had purchased a Hitachi 2TB hard drive. It would only format about 900 GB and I thought I needed to RMA it. I downloaded Disk Utilities from Hitachi's website and ran a 7 hour advanced test on the drive to look for errors, I then did a complete "0" write over the hard drive that took another 6 hours to see if there were some bad sectors.
Even after the tests on the hard drive came back negative and the zero write was complete, windows would "successfully format" the drive. I kept getting hung up on anything larger than a tb when I partitioned the drive. Frustrated I used the vista install disk and kill disk and tried formatting from bootup software but this didn't work.

THE SOLUTION-
as other people have mentioned it turned out to be the Nvidia chipset on my Mobo. I thought it was recently updated as late as AUG 09 but apparently there was something missing.
I have an Nvidia 750a SLI chipset on a MSI motherboard so I was used to running the MSI Live Update for Bios and chipset updates. It was only when i went to Nvidia that the problem was fixed. As soon as I installed the chipset update and rebooted I was able to format the entire 2GB no problem.
I hope this info helps people

Reply to Anonymous

You can format your HDD 1.5 TO using "Hard disk lowlevel format Tool"(freeware).

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