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Whats the highest processor you can put on an hp media center pc m7360n

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May 18, 2010 11:55:27 PM

Hello,


my computer is four years old and i want to upgrade it to a fast gaming computer. so far on my checklist is

upgrade ram to 4.0 gigs
change processor
upgrade graphics card to 9800 nvidia
and just get a better fan

now i want to know, what kind of processor i need that is

the best
not super expensive
and if it is compatible with my motherboard


everything about my computer is here

http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-pavilion-media-cent...
May 19, 2010 12:04:41 AM

Post the HP system support link to your specific system, the m7360n. The link you posted doesn't give the system specs, CPU's supported or BIOS revisions available to support the CPU.
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May 19, 2010 4:47:03 AM

aford10 said:
Here's the motherboard in your system.
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/945p/945...

It looks like the E7600 is the best CPU it will support.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
However, it's ~ $26 more than the E7500. So for the $$, the E7500 is probably the best price/performance CPU for your motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You may need to update your BIOS to upgrade the CPU.

hmmm..so thats like the best processer youve found for my kind of computer? will it support high graphic gaming [ex: call of duty] ?

and if not, what about upgrading motherboard?
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May 19, 2010 4:47:13 AM

i just want to upgrade my computer to turn it into a great graphic/high gaming computer. whatever i need to upgrade i just need to know
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May 19, 2010 4:50:41 AM

Yes, it will play those games. Your graphics card will be more of a factor in how high you can set the settings though.

If you're thinking of upgrading the motherboard, as well as the CPU, you'll likely need to upgrade the RAM as well. It can quickly turn into a costly upgrade. At that point, it's probably best to sell your current setup, and start from scratch. You can buy prebuilt systems or build one yourself for about the same price as that kind of an upgrade.
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May 20, 2010 2:29:47 PM

aford10 said:
If your simply looking for a gaming PC, the i5 750 is one of the top price/performance CPUs at the moment.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Combine that with a graphics card like the 5770 or 5850, and you've got the start to a good gaming machine.


well ive heard rumors that the I5 has been having quite a few problems :( 
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May 20, 2010 2:38:01 PM

I'm not aware of any real issues with the i5. If someone is having a problem, it's more likely with their motherboard chipset, or they completely misdiagnosed their problem.
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May 21, 2010 1:22:39 AM

aford10 said:
I'm not aware of any real issues with the i5. If someone is having a problem, it's more likely with their motherboard chipset, or they completely misdiagnosed their problem.

so everything will work properly with my computer?


I5 processor
9800 nvidia g- card
ram 4.0 gigs
and new fan with my current system?
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May 21, 2010 1:32:47 AM

The i5 won't work in your current PC. You'll need to get a compatible motherboard.
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May 21, 2010 2:11:17 PM

aford10 said:
The i5 won't work in your current PC. You'll need to get a compatible motherboard.

okay so which motherboard do you recommend?

and would i need to change anything else?
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May 21, 2010 2:14:35 PM

oh and also what about the i7? whats the difference between that and 15?
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May 21, 2010 2:44:57 PM

If you haven't got the 9800 yet, here's a nice combo that has the i5, gts 250, and an Asus motherboard. It's got a rebate deal on it right now too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The i7 is a more powerful and more expensive CPU. Some use the same socket as the i5 (1156), and some use a different socket (1366). The i5 lacks the hyperthreading support, but for gaming, you don't need it. The i7's have hyperthreading, which is one reason they are more expensive.
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May 21, 2010 2:48:17 PM

You would also need DDR3 RAM.
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May 21, 2010 3:02:18 PM

aford10 said:
You would also need DDR3 RAM.

so with all this stuff i need, do you think it would be worth it just buying a gaming computer? xD
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May 21, 2010 4:24:24 PM

For the $$, you'll get a better build by doing it yourself. But if you're not confident in your skills, and don't want to try building one, it's probably best to buy a prebuilt system.

The problem I have with those prebuilt systems, is they skimp where they think most people won't notice.

The main expense to a PC are the items in the combo listed above. If you are salvaging parts from your current PC, you could use the optical drives, hard drive, keyboard, mouse, monitor, maybe the tower, and possibly the PSU.
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May 21, 2010 10:32:46 PM

aford10 said:
For the $$, you'll get a better build by doing it yourself. But if you're not confident in your skills, and don't want to try building one, it's probably best to buy a prebuilt system.

The problem I have with those prebuilt systems, is they skimp where they think most people won't notice.

The main expense to a PC are the items in the combo listed above. If you are salvaging parts from your current PC, you could use the optical drives, hard drive, keyboard, mouse, monitor, maybe the tower, and possibly the PSU.


Oh yeah i know that. Everytime i look at specs on the computer its skimpy somewhere.

Could you explain DDR3 to me? im not really familiar with it. Oh and if i dont know/want to put in the stuff myself [ex: graphic card] then could i get someone else to do it? like best buy or staples?
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May 21, 2010 10:53:53 PM

Sorry im asking so many questions, this is my dad's computer and i dont want to mess it up
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May 22, 2010 12:01:19 AM

The main benefits of DDR3 RAM is higher data rates and more bandwidth. It's required for most newer motherboards.

Here's a nice comparison of DDR2/DDR3.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2232

I'm not sure if Staples offers those kinds of services, but Best Buy (Geek Squad) does. The process of assembling the hardware is relatively simple. If you have any questions, we can walk you through it. There are also guides available if you google it.
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May 22, 2010 3:32:35 AM

aford10 said:
The main benefits of DDR3 RAM is higher data rates and more bandwidth. It's required for most newer motherboards.

Here's a nice comparison of DDR2/DDR3.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2232

I'm not sure if Staples offers those kinds of services, but Best Buy (Geek Squad) does. The process of assembling the hardware is relatively simple. If you have any questions, we can walk you through it. There are also guides available if you google it.

okay. :) 

so i need to upgrade processor to i5
get a new motherboard
upgrade DDR3 RAM
upgrade ram to 4.0 gigs
get the 9800 nvidia graphic card
and a fan
right?
~~edit~~

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

and whats the difference between that graphic card and the 9800?
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May 22, 2010 4:27:38 AM

Which 9800 are you planning on getting? Why are you so stuck on that? Here's the video card hierarchy chart. Depending on which version of the 9800 you're looking at, there is much better.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-radeo...

You only need a fan if your temps are getting high. A program like realtemp can monitor your temps.
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

If you're just looking for a motherboard, this Gigabyte would probably be my choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 22, 2010 4:41:26 AM

aford10 said:
Which 9800 are you planning on getting? Why are you so stuck on that? Here's the video card hierarchy chart. Depending on which version of the 9800 you're looking at, there is much better.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-radeo...

You only need a fan if your temps are getting high. A program like realtemp can monitor your temps.
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

If you're just looking for a motherboard, this Gigabyte would probably be my choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


the 9800 is the only one I'm familiar with that's new!

okay so i dont need the fan...

uhhh i read the "pro's and con's" on the motherboard and i am kind of...erm...nervous D:


so which one do i get!? http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



~~edit~~
read the specs and the new one you gave me only supports i7 while the combo pack thing supports i3/i5/i7
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May 22, 2010 4:47:58 AM

I can see you like the 9800, but which 9800 are you talking about? There is a 9800 GTX, GT, GX2? Not all 9800's are the same.
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May 22, 2010 4:55:23 AM

aford10 said:
I can see you like the 9800, but which 9800 are you talking about? There is a 9800 GTX, GT, GX2? Not all 9800's are the same.

Oh! i beleive it is the GX2
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May 22, 2010 5:08:33 AM

The GX2 is a nice card, but it's a LOT more expensive than the gts 250. In my opinion, it's not worth what it costs (unless you found a good deal somewhere).
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May 22, 2010 5:12:13 AM

aford10 said:
The GX2 is a nice card, but it's a LOT more expensive than the gts 250. In my opinion, it's not worth what it costs (unless you found a good deal somewhere).

so i should just get the gts250? on the hierarchy chart it is lower than the 9800 D:
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May 22, 2010 7:29:06 AM

This is where you have to make a choice based on your budget. I've given you my thoughts on the CPU and motherboard. You'll need to decide if the upgrade fits in your budget or not.
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May 22, 2010 10:20:47 PM

aford10 said:
This is where you have to make a choice based on your budget. I've given you my thoughts on the CPU and motherboard. You'll need to decide if the upgrade fits in your budget or not.

well ive seen the 9800 gx2 being sold in staples for about 100 dollars so i guess ill just get that for the graphic card...
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May 22, 2010 10:20:47 PM

so with all the upgrades im going to do on my system, it will be a really good gaming computer?
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May 22, 2010 10:21:27 PM

AND i can upgrade the DDR right? and if i use my computer on an everyday basis will it last as long as it does right now? [four years right now going on five]
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May 22, 2010 10:31:25 PM

If you make all those upgrades, yes, you'll have a pretty nice gaming PC. You should be able to play most games on high settings.

Yes, if you upgrade the motherboard, you'll need to upgrade the RAM.
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May 22, 2010 10:52:14 PM

aford10 said:
If you make all those upgrades, yes, you'll have a pretty nice gaming PC. You should be able to play most games on high settings.

Yes, if you upgrade the motherboard, you'll need to upgrade the RAM.

Alright, lemme just make sure i have everything right


i5 processor
upgrade ram to 4.0/DDR to 3
Get nvidia 9800 GX2 card
Asus intel motherboard


and it will all work properly to be a gaming computer with the games running at high quality
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May 23, 2010 2:54:38 AM

Yes, if you upgrade to the Asus motherboard, and i5 CPU, you'll need to get DDR3 RAM. Yes, they are chips that go into your RAM slots. Yes, that Corsair RAM is a good choice.

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May 23, 2010 5:57:56 AM

okay. Thank you so much!
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May 23, 2010 6:14:41 AM

Yes, that CPU socket (1156) uses dual channel RAM. The 1366 socket is designed to use triple channel RAM. That's the reason for the distinction.
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May 23, 2010 7:09:10 AM

so will it be compatible?
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May 23, 2010 7:28:33 AM

oh and without caring about the price or anything, which do you like better? i5 or i7 processor?
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May 23, 2010 7:37:05 AM

Yes, the RAM is compatible with the i5 setup.

Without regard for price, the i7 is a better CPU. But for a gaming PC, the i5 is the best price/performance setup.
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May 23, 2010 8:00:51 AM

aford10 said:
Yes, the RAM is compatible with the i5 setup.

Without regard for price, the i7 is a better CPU. But for a gaming PC, the i5 is the best price/performance setup.

okay lol.


so the price totals rounded to about 600$. Okay now im tempted on just BUYING an already built gaming computer.
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May 23, 2010 4:06:17 PM

The price does add up quickly.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find that kind of hardware in a prebuilt, for under $900.
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May 23, 2010 7:03:06 PM

aford10 said:
The price does add up quickly.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find that kind of hardware in a prebuilt, for under $900.

and i neeit installed by someone else which will take more money...

they really have some under 900? PREBUILT? haha can you show me some?
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May 28, 2010 2:17:56 AM

aford10 said:
Here's a prebuilt through newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ibuypower.com and cyberpower.com are some good sites to customize systems.

yeah i was looking at those sites also :) 

Would there be any gaming systems for about 700 dollars? that already have everything i wanted?
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May 28, 2010 9:52:27 AM

It may be tough getting the i5 750 in the price range. But you can probably customize an AMD phenom II 955/965 system in that range through ibuypower or cyberpower.
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