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December 16, 2007 10:55:32 PM

:hello:  Thank you so much to everyone who posted to help me. :bounce: 

I really appreciate everyones input :) 

I updated my system build. Will this work? Any foreseeable big problems?

I will be running the new vista x64 operating system so I want to have a fast hard drive and a bigger hard drive for storing my music n stuff.

I have a few concerns:

Will I have heating issues?

Will the power supply be enough?

I am not sure on getting a sound card.. is it worth it?

I am not sure on what motherboard to get - which one is better or do you have other suggestions?

I do want a good amount of RAM - is corsair a good brand?

My Computer Plan:

Processor
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor – Retail – 279.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply - I could use some help on this one - not sure what to get

ENERMAX Galaxy EGX850EWL ATX12V/ EPS12V/ BTX 850W Power Supply 100 - 240 V cUL, UL, TUV, CE, FCC – Retail – 269.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SILVERSTONE SST-ST75ZF ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply 100 - 240 V OCP,OVP,SCP,NLO – Retail - 159.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card
EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Retail – 359.00

EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Retail – 359.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Retail – 89.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram

CORSAIR 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail – 134.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard – not sure which one to get - need help

ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard – Retail – 194.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard – Retail -299.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drives

Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM – 169.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM - $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Disk Drives
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 14X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe – Retail – 40.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sound Card

Not sure I should get one or even need one - does it make that big of a difference?

Oh yes, Can I get a case that is pink that is also a good case? (this does not really matter but I am curious)

thank you so much for the help. You guys are awesome :) 

:hello: 
December 16, 2007 11:18:39 PM

I doubt you will have heating issues even with stock cpu cooling. But if you want to be sure or OC then get a scythe ninja, arctic cooling freezer, or a ZALMAN CNPS9500.

I think those power supplies you chose were overkill. Most antec, seasonic, pc power and cooling, ocz, corsair etc. ones over 500W are good enough.

If you're not sure if you want a sound card then don't buy one yet. See if you like the sound quality of the onboard one on your motherboard and then decide.

For video card you should get 8800 GT hands down.

I like the antec nine hundred and P180/182 cases.

Motherboard I don't really know but I doubt you will need a raptor HD. The cost/Gb is not worth it.

RAM is ok, but these ones are good too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
December 17, 2007 12:05:55 AM

I know you wanted to find help on this site, but was it really that necessary to point out that you're a girl and to use the name cutepinkflower? Anyways, I'd say you're better off saving money and getting the 8800GT, while the Q6600 is a solid choice. The RAM is okay, but you may want to look at 4 x 1GB packs as well as they often have better latencies and more competitive prices. I wouldn't waste the money on the Raptor hard drive either, as you can find 7200RPM drivers that are nearly as fast with perpendicular recording.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 17, 2007 12:16:26 AM

A sound card will make a huge difference - on board sound usually isn't as good for a multitude of reasons - low quality parts, interference from other components on the board, etc.

For Vista, I'd go with an HT Omega sound card. The Creative cards have really sucked under Vista (stuff like EAX, CMSS, etc. doesn't work) and they are rolling out driver upgrades...but still, I'd go with an HT Omega to be sure.

December 17, 2007 1:13:39 AM

Motherboard - I do not recommend any 680i motherboard. Since the 680i motherboards are apparently not going support the Yorkfield CPU's (Penryn quad-cores), they are, for all practical purposes, obsolete. I would probably go with a recent version P35 board - probably Gigabyte.

Cooling - Zalmans sure are pretty, but there are other HSF's that work better and cost less.

Case - I do not know of any pink cases. You will have to take care of that yourself.
December 17, 2007 2:34:03 AM

cutepinkflower said:
:hello:  Thank you so much to everyone who posted to help me. :bounce: 

I really appreciate everyones input :) 

I updated my system build. Will this work? Any foreseeable big problems?

I will be running the new vista x64 operating system so I want to have a fast hard drive and a bigger hard drive for storing my music n stuff.

I have a few concerns:

Will I have heating issues?

Will the power supply be enough?

I am not sure on getting a sound card.. is it worth it?

I am not sure on what motherboard to get - which one is better or do you have other suggestions?

I do want a good amount of RAM - is corsair a good brand?

My Computer Plan:

Processor
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor – Retail – 279.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply - I could use some help on this one - not sure what to get

ENERMAX Galaxy EGX850EWL ATX12V/ EPS12V/ BTX 850W Power Supply 100 - 240 V cUL, UL, TUV, CE, FCC – Retail – 269.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SILVERSTONE SST-ST75ZF ATX12V / EPS12V 750W Power Supply 100 - 240 V OCP,OVP,SCP,NLO – Retail - 159.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card
EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Retail – 359.00

EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Retail – 359.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Retail – 89.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram

CORSAIR 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail – 134.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard – not sure which one to get - need help

ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard – Retail – 194.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard – Retail -299.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drives

Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM – 169.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM - $104.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Disk Drives
ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 14X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe – Retail – 40.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sound Card

Not sure I should get one or even need one - does it make that big of a difference?

Oh yes, Can I get a case that is pink that is also a good case? (this does not really matter but I am curious)

thank you so much for the help. You guys are awesome :) 

:hello: 


Most of what you have in your list are good choices, but you will run into some mounting and HD speed problems.

1) On your choice of PSU, you will have some problems mounting it in he current Armor series case. Main reason it is to long and you will lose the use of the Top usb, headset port and ieee connection. So you need to get either a PSU tha will fit or another case.

Case Option
Armor+ VH6000BWS
Armor Plus Super Tower
Black with Transparent Side Window
(will be available 1/1/2008)
Here is link for it and use the Flash option to find out when it will be avilable in your country. Price should be around $199.00 US Dollars.
http://thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/chassis_index.asp

PSU Option
OCZ ModXStream OCZ900MXS ATX12V / EPS12V 900W Power Supply 110 - 240V UL, CE, CB, FCC, CSA - Retail $239.99 ($219.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341009
OCZ in MID 2007 bought out PC Power & Cooling, so this is a better choice then the Silverstone PSU.

The Raptors are very good, but when you run with a Sata II HD. The Sata II 3.0gb/s data transfer rate will revert to the Raptor 1.5gb/s data transfer rate speed. If you are okay with that, otherwise I would suggest going Raid 0 with (2) 250 Saa II HD's.

Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $74.99 each.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136055

note: I was running (2) 150 Raptors' in Raid 0 and a 300gb Sata II storage drive, but just in the last 2 weeks, one of them failed and since it was a Computer Manufacture build, WD 5yr. warranty did not apply.

Also would wait for the new 780i motherboards that is due out late December 2007 or by mid January 2008 if you want to SLi that 8800GTS graphic card in he future. Plus that motherboard will be PCI-E 2.0 Copliant or get the Abit X38 motherboard if you can not wait.

ABIT IX38 Quad GT LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127033

Thats all I have to add, except the choice is yours o make. Have fun on your upcoming build.



December 17, 2007 3:22:06 AM

OK here is my updated system, again. Pick it apart I want to build a good reliable computer.

I think I am getting near the end of the process here but I have a few more questions.

Any other drive suggestions? I had no clue about RAID or anything like that, could someone explain the basics of RAID to me?

I am still not sure on the motherboard.

I am not sure I want to wait until January for a case. Any other alternatives for awesome cases?

Any other suggestions.

Computer Plan:

Processor

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor – Retail – 279.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply

OCZ ModXStream OCZ900MXS ATX12V / EPS12V 900W Power Supply 110 - 240V UL, CE, CB, FCC, CSA – Retail -240 (220 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card

EVGA 512-P3-N806-A1 GeForce 8800GT SSC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card –Retail – 330 –
EVGA 512-P3-N806-A1 GeForce 8800GT SSC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail – 330 –

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case – double check will processor fit in the case – if not what are alternatives?

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case – Retail – 129.99 (89.00 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram

CORSAIR 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail – 134.00 (94.00 after rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard – which one is better?

GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra Cooling Intel Motherboard - Retail – 270.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ABIT IX38 Quad GT LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813127033

Hard Drives – Any other drive suggestions?

RAID 0 Drives-

Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive –

Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM $74.99 each. (150 total)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136055

Sound Card – don’t care too much about sound at the moment.
December 17, 2007 3:48:07 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This is the case I have, I paid $260 for it and feel it was worth every penny so for $99.99 after rebate it's a steal.

The PSU you chose is more than you need for that system and the modxstream line isn't as good as some of their other lines. I would go with the PC P&C Silencer 750, you can find it for around $160 and it would be more than enough for your system.

I have the P5N32-E SLI and it's a good board. I had some problems early on with it but now I'm very happy with it. I personally think the Striker isn't worth the $100 price premium and since you listed 2 video cards I assume your thinking SLI, if so P35 and X38 aren't compatable and at this time 680i is your best option.

You could save some money by not buying the overclocked versions of your video cards and just doing it yourself if you are so inclined. Here's a guide http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/23/overclock_your_g...

This RAM is about a buck cheaper than the Corsair you chose and has lower latency.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Why would you pay $150 for 2 hard drives when you could just buy a 500gb for around $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I like the Seagate because it has a 5yr warranty instead of a 3yr that the other manufacturers have.
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