Upconversion Pointless?

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I'm curious as to whether I should bother with one of those DVD players
that up-convert the
signal to 720p or 1080i. Won't my HDTV (Toshiba 52HM84) already do that
with any incoming
signal anyway? Is this just a gimmick to sell new DVD players to
customers who already have
older units?

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On Sun, 29 May 2005 02:36:31 -0700, Abe <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>>I'm curious as to whether I should bother with one of those DVD players
>>that up-convert the
>>signal to 720p or 1080i. Won't my HDTV (Toshiba 52HM84) already do that
>>with any incoming
>>signal anyway? Is this just a gimmick to sell new DVD players to
>>customers who already have
>>older units?
>---------
>Personally, I don't see that the picture looks any better upconverted.
>You might want to look at the discussions on avsforum.
>
>I wouldn't pay for an upconverting player anyway, because in 1-2
>years, I'll be buying an HD-DVD player anyway.


My Hitachi looks the same letting the set do the conversion.
Thumper

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Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll save my money (for quite awhile)
and upconvert to an HD-DVD player eventually.

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"Abe" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> >I'm curious as to whether I should bother with one of those DVD players
>>that up-convert the
>>signal to 720p or 1080i. Won't my HDTV (Toshiba 52HM84) already do that
>>with any incoming
>>signal anyway? Is this just a gimmick to sell new DVD players to
>>customers who already have
>>older units?
> ---------
> Personally, I don't see that the picture looks any better upconverted.
> You might want to look at the discussions on avsforum.
>
> I wouldn't pay for an upconverting player anyway, because in 1-2
> years, I'll be buying an HD-DVD player anyway.

The problem with cheap bastards like you is that will keep waiting. Once
you wait, how long will you keep waiting? until an HDTV is $100?

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"Guest" <n0gar@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:TxKme.1071$4u.12@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
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> "Abe" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:bj2j91lje2db4gbn627mnjkd18v7repo78@4ax.com...
>> >I'm curious as to whether I should bother with one of those DVD players
>>>that up-convert the
>>>signal to 720p or 1080i. Won't my HDTV (Toshiba 52HM84) already do that
>>>with any incoming
>>>signal anyway? Is this just a gimmick to sell new DVD players to
>>>customers who already have
>>>older units?
>> ---------
>> Personally, I don't see that the picture looks any better upconverted.
>> You might want to look at the discussions on avsforum.
>>
>> I wouldn't pay for an upconverting player anyway, because in 1-2
>> years, I'll be buying an HD-DVD player anyway.
>
> The problem with cheap bastards like you is that will keep waiting. Once
> you wait, how long will you keep waiting? until an HDTV is $100?

They'll just wait for a hand-me-down.

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"Guest" <n0gar@hotmail.com> wrote in news:qzKme.1072$4u.726
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>> That would be my basic sentiment. I have a nice Samsung 5-disc
>> progressive scan player and the built-in upconversion in my TV does a
>> really fine job with its output. The pictures are seamless--no
>> horizontal lines visible and clear as you can expect from the DVD source
>> material.
>
> I can bet that all you are getting is 480P too!

That's all you're gonna get from any DVD. Whether the upconversion is done
in the player or in the TV is not really that important. If the player's
upconversion looks better than what's in your TV (my TV upconverts all 480i
and 480p signals or the horizontal lines would be visible), then go for it.
My player cost me $25 on eBay and it will do until someone puts out a truly
HD standard for DVD's. My recorder (which is single disc) is about as
good.

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<fbiondo@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll save my money (for quite awhile)
> and upconvert to an HD-DVD player eventually.
>
>

I disagree with most of the posts here. I have a 32 Samsung LCD HDtv and I
use a LG3510a DVD upscaler and HD tuner combo. I also have a standard DVD
player. The LG upscaling to 720P is vastly better that playing the same DVD
directly with the old player to the tv. I use a DVI cable which is
necessary for a digital signal. Those who use component cables should try
it with DVI or HDMI cabling.

At first I used a Monster DVI and the picture was soft. So I tried a cheap
DVI cable that came with my Viewsonic monitor and the picture was much
sharper. I took the Monster (over $100) back to Radio Shack and bought
another DVI cable at Cablemaster for $19.00! The picture from my upscaled
DVD's is close to HD but there is a huge difference in DVD quality. The
movie "The Fith Element" is very sharp for instance. Some DVD's aren't
better than VHS tape.

That is my experience.

BC

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On Tue, 31 May 2005 07:35:44 -0700, "Richard C."
<post-age@spamcop.net> wrote:

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><fbiondo@mac.com> wrote in message
>news:1117399176.835308.275940@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll save my money (for quite awhile)
>> and upconvert to an HD-DVD player eventually.
>>
>========================
>Good idea since the current ones will not actually play real HD-DVDs.


The current ones are dirt cheap and play DVDs just fine now. If you
don't have a set that upconverts it's the way to go today.
Thumper

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"BC" <bcphoto@core.com> wrote in message
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>
> <fbiondo@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:1117399176.835308.275940@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll save my money (for quite awhile)
>> and upconvert to an HD-DVD player eventually.
>>
>>
>
> I disagree with most of the posts here. I have a 32 Samsung LCD HDtv and
> I use a LG3510a DVD upscaler and HD tuner combo. I also have a standard
> DVD player. The LG upscaling to 720P is vastly better that playing the
> same DVD directly with the old player to the tv. I use a DVI cable which
> is necessary for a digital signal. Those who use component cables should
> try it with DVI or HDMI cabling.
>
> At first I used a Monster DVI and the picture was soft. So I tried a cheap
> DVI cable that came with my Viewsonic monitor and the picture was much
> sharper. I took the Monster (over $100) back to Radio Shack and bought
> another DVI cable at Cablemaster for $19.00! The picture from my upscaled
> DVD's is close to HD but there is a huge difference in DVD quality. The
> movie "The Fith Element" is very sharp for instance. Some DVD's aren't
> better than VHS tape.
>
> That is my experience.
>
> BC
>
In your case there is a very good reason for the upconverting. You only
need one cable for both devices, the tuner and the DVD player use the same
cable. As to an upconverting DVD being better than progresive scan DVD,
depends on too many factors. The largest factor is how well your TV does
the same thing. In other words, does the TV or the DVD do a better job of
upconverting.