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Base on NVIDIA G92 architecture, GeForce 8800 GS Graphics Card embraces 96 stream processors, 48 Texture Filtering Units and 48 Texture Addressing Units,12 ROPs and 192-bit 384MB GDDR3 video memory.


GeForce 8800 GS retail price will be $149-$179.

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That's a bad pricing spot IMO. Looks like the HD3850 is a better buy...and will perform similar if not better. They need to put it in the 120-140 price range.

Reply to nightscope

I don't know about being slower than 3850. It does have all the works to be fast as g80 GTS minus the memory bandwidth. But this is g92 core based with probably faster shaders and 48 texture units.

 

Not to mention 384mb of video ram that would to better for games that need more than 256mb vram.

 

This might be the budget card like 7900gs that did really well on terms overclocking and price performance ratio.


Message edited by marvelous211 on 12-27-2007 at 06:18:51 PM
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Well the HD3850 is already as fast as the 8800 GTS 320MB version...I think these cards are going to have similar performance. But in order for nvidia to give buyers another reason to get the 8800GS instead, lowering prices would be ideal. That's just my opinion though...If I was in the market for a video card but found two with similar performance, I'd go with the cheaper (I think that's the case with everyone :P)

Reply to nightscope

Why is this forum so pro ATI?

 

3850 is not fast as 8800gts. 3850 doesn't even reach the G80 8800gts performance. 8800gt is about 20% faster than g80 GTS or so.


Message edited by marvelous211 on 12-27-2007 at 06:27:51 PM
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Um...check benchmarks, yes, the HD3850 is as good as the 320MB version of the g80 8800 gts. I'm not pro ATI, I own an nvidia card, but I'm just saying. Nvidia needs to adjust it's pricing a bit.

Reply to nightscope

Um...I did check benchmarks. 8800gt 256mb is faster than 3870 long as you don't turn up the resolution up 1920x1200 with AA. Only game 3850 has a chance is crysis even then if you don't turn up the resolution it does fine.

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Reply to marvelous211

I like to see cheap cards that perform well. If we could get a card for 8500GT/HD2400 price and at least 8600GTS performance I think we would see a lot more developers putting out games with a lot better graphics. It just isn't good business to make a game that only 1% of PC owners can play. Crysis anyone?

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I am surprised to see NV actually bother with a card like this, but it might not be a bad little card for overclocking as marvelous mentioned?

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I welcome any new card in this price bracket. Hope it rocks and is readily available. Most of the systems I build the people don't want to spend $200+ on a video card. More options at $150 is a good thing.

Reply to pauldh

How can the the memory be narrower with the same core?

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Do you guys know of any comparisons that pit the 8800GTS 320MB, 8800GT 256MB, and HD3850 directly up against each other? I have not seen any but wonder just how well the HD3850 would do against the 320MB GTS. I suspect they would trade blows but my own personal guess on this one would be the 320MB GTS would end up winning more than it loses. I have an HD3850 arriving tomorrow and plan to pit it up against my 320MB GTS and X1950XT iceQ turbo for some testing sometime soon.

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http://www23.tomshardware.com/grap [...] &chart=318

THG is about the only ones I can find. And yes it seems that the 8800GTS 320mb is better.

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The 8800GTS 320MB is faster than the HD 3850 256MB, however on average the 8800GT 256MB is slower than the HD 3870 512MB. Even the HD 3850 512MB is a better buy than the 8800GT 256MB because it has more RAM. We'll see how games released in 2008 fare on 256MB of RAM...

Reply to SEALBoy

12 ROP's ayee.
ATI 3850 has 16.
48 TMU's aye
ATI 3850 has 16
198bit ayee.
ATI 3850 uses 256bit.

 

personally i dont think this card has the power to take on the 3850 at all. the only thing its got going for it is texture power.
but instead demolish the 3550's, like say somewhere in between the 3550 and 3850.
like the current 2600XT has 4 ROPS, 8 TMU's. 120 shaders. a ramped clock speed wise 2600xt 55nm shrink doesnt stand a chance in hell.

 


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pauldh wrote :

Do you guys know of any comparisons that pit the 8800GTS 320MB, 8800GT 256MB, and HD3850 directly up against each other? I have not seen any but wonder just how well the HD3850 would do against the 320MB GTS. I suspect they would trade blows but my own personal guess on this one would be the 320MB GTS would end up winning more than it loses. I have an HD3850 arriving tomorrow and plan to pit it up against my 320MB GTS and X1950XT iceQ turbo for some testing sometime soon.


http://techreport.com/articles.x/13603/6

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I just had a look at the techreport article and wasn't too impressed. Usually, I think they do a better job of benchmarking. This looked like something they rushed out to get it out there. Everyone knows that the AMD cards don't do the AA, AF as well, yet they bench'd only with them maxed out. Not that there isn't something to that as most people are going to turn up quality as far as they can, however, people are also going to primarily go for playability. At most of their resolutions with AA AF maxed, playability is terrible. Absolutely. 20-30 FPS...

Tom's had a better article about the NEW 8800GTS and looked at more resolutions and both AA AF maxed out and not. It shows the 3850 being, generally, competetive with the OLD GTS 320. However, the old 320 was defeinitely better in most (almost all) benchies.

Not surprising since the 320 was a $400 card and the 3850 is a $170 card, cooler, quieter, and uses less power.
I'll say my personal preference would be the 3870 because it's quieter, less power hungry and does a better job of video processing and post processing than the Nvidia cards, but I'm not a gamer like most people on here so I know my views are skewed.


An while I'm at it, I don't think a crippled 8800 is going to be as good or better than the 3850. I think the decrease from GT 512 to GT 256 showed that the cores are pretty close without shutting down portions. I think the 3850 will egde the 8800GS slightly and beat the 9600GT as well. Just my thought.


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