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December 30, 2007 2:34:02 PM

[cpp]I am trying to put together a few nice Comps for me and 2 friends. My technological
intelligence is however outdated to say the least. So i was wondering if someone around these parts would have the heart and time to lend me a few minutes of their precious time and grace me with their insight. What im asking is basicly what parts should i get to build a decent gaming PC. Id like some nice stuff, but at a affordable price.

Currently ive bought 3xAsus En8800gt Top cards so that takes care of the GPU


Cpu Was thinking e6850 Core Duo, Maybe q6600? or Maybe AMD6400+?


Mainboard Considering Asus P5N32-E SLI AiLifestyle Series but maybe there are
some better cards for the same price or cheaper? Maybe x38?


PSU I have no clue here TBH, been reading up on several reviews, and so
far my conclusion is a OCZ GameXtream 600w should be able to run my
rig even if i decide to slap another 8800gt in there (appearently they dont
burn alot of power) but please correct me if im wrong


Case A standard v54 turbine from Point of View


Ram OCZ SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel pc6400 cl5800mhz Or maybe the
reaper edition of the pc6400 from ocz *CL4*


Cooler Asus Silent Knight II

Any input would be greatly appreciated, as i am completely lost in all these new parts brands and names. I have a love for Asus products cause they have always worked for me in the past and to me equates quality. If this has changed the last couple of years, dont feel bad to burst my bubble.

What would a good AMD setup be? would i be dissapointed? The overall budget is around 1000 give or take a few 100. but a lower cost system with on par perfomance would not be scowled upon Bo)


Thanks in advance.

Yours sincerely
Rune Hansen

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December 30, 2007 2:38:06 PM

Well first you need to decide if you or your friends will go or NEED SLI.

Once you tell me that I can help

Edit: And Your budgets
December 30, 2007 2:43:31 PM

We wont be doing SLI off the bat, but i think its nice to have the option open for later? or is it overkill?
The budget is around 700-1200$ per machine. Ive already bought the GPUs
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December 30, 2007 2:48:20 PM

SLI is if you want Crysis on high on a 30" LCD screen. Seems silly to me

Are you going to overclock?
December 30, 2007 2:54:07 PM

we wont be getting watercooled heat sinks, but perhaps light overclocking. Ah ok, i thought SLI was good in most cases. im playing on a 19 inch hehe so i guess thats totally useless then. Age of conan is gonna be pretty heavy on the machine though (many players in proximitY)
December 30, 2007 3:02:36 PM

If your planning on SLI for a 19" your crazy. An 8800GT will run fine. I have Crysis on max with it on a 19".

Processor wise I'd stick with Intel. AMD is in a hole right now. Q6600 overclocked can be just as good as the E6850 and have 4 cores = longevity. I say Q6600.

I would then suggest a P35 motherboard (no SLI). Gigabyte and Asus are good. Many people like the Asus P5K-E with the Q6600 (3.6 overclocks).

Get a good 4 gigs DDR2-800

The Asus Silent Knight II seems like the biggest waste of money. For performance get the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, Tuniq Tower, or Zalman CPNS 9700
December 30, 2007 3:10:52 PM

First of all, thx for bothering mate. Second, What PSU would you recomend? watts/brand?
December 30, 2007 3:14:34 PM

All the reviews ive read states the e6850 as better in games, but i suppose that might change in the near future if developers decide to support them. You are prolly right on the cooler too hehe.
December 30, 2007 3:20:21 PM

I agree the cooler looks cool but for the price it is not a great performer.

Good PSU brands are Corsair (I have the modular 520HX), PC Power and Cooling, Seasonic
I recommend Corsair and PC and C. Above 500 will work for the system, 600-750 if you want more room to upgrade. The Corsair 620 HX is good and has modular cabling so you only use the ones you need
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-620w-sli-certified-modular-atx-power-supply/q/loc/101/203270718.html- Corsair 620 HX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005- PC Power & C Silencer 610
or 750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

The E6850 is better mainly because of the 3.0 clock, but if you overclock the Q6600 is shortens the gap and you get 4 cores
December 30, 2007 4:34:05 PM

i reccomend the q6600 over the e6850, and i advise strongly against the amd option
December 30, 2007 5:42:50 PM

Yes sir, i am in denmark. Most parts are here as well though. i hope hehe. I cant really see the differences between them, apart from the wireless stuff? are there any? And thx again for your patience. Does the system look better now ?
December 30, 2007 8:03:45 PM

Yeah that will serve you and your friends pretty well

December 30, 2007 8:27:00 PM

Here s a new setup that might kick some ass too at a bit lower price. Think its ok aswell Silver?

Motherboard Gigabyte p35 ds3 / MSI p35 Neo2
CPU e6750/q6600 GO stepping slacr/sla9v
CPU Cooler Zalman 9700
PSU Zalman 510w
GPU Asus 8800gt TOP
Ram Blackdragon Cas4 pc6400/Ocz pc6400 Cas5


Will the ram (Cas) matter for my overclocking? can i use both the cas4 and cas5? Or is one more suited than the other for overcloacking this system?
December 30, 2007 9:00:02 PM

Cas 4 is better for overclocking. I still suggest those PSUs like Corsair and PC & C. A bad power supply can destroy your system from the inside out.

I and many people do not like MSI motherboards. Stick with gigabyte and Asus. If the DS3 suits your needs then by all means go ahead. You might not be able to overlclock the Q6600 as well as the P5K-E but 3.0+ is still possible
December 30, 2007 9:23:50 PM

The system above is from a test/review here at Toms. They seem to be quite happy with both of those cards. But as stated earlier i have no clue really, thats why i ran it by you.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Intel-E6750-Q6600-MSI-Gig...

Can you tell me what i would get from buying one of the p5k cards instead of one of those? or is it more complicated than that?
December 30, 2007 9:34:18 PM

This is not related to parts selection.

I suggest that you breadboard the systems before you install the parts inside the case. That means assembling the components on an insulated surface to test them. That way you know that you are installing good components.

Another suggestion: you are apparently building 3 identical systems at the same time. This will really help if you run into problems because you can test by substitution. Once everyone has his parts, write down all the serial numbers or tag the components somehow before you start. This will let you keep track of all of the parts if you need to move them around for troubleshooting.

It's really frustrating to move parts around for troubleshooting, then realize that you lost track of the good and suspected bad parts.
December 30, 2007 9:36:57 PM

Thats true, i didnt think about that. Thank you.
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