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December 31, 2007 3:05:15 AM

Hi all. Just a quick opinion gents. Am i going to get a big performance increase going from an AMD FX-60 to a Intel E6850?

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December 31, 2007 3:08:54 AM

Rather significant. Both are good processors, but the E6850 is better. It won't be night and day, but it will be noticable.
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December 31, 2007 3:15:03 AM

Can I have your FX60 then??

The only noticeable difference will very much depend on the graphics card you have ... and the rest of the system.

A high end graphics card will become cpu bound on an FX60 unless it is overclocked whereas the core 2 chip mildly overclocked won't get cpu bound.

Plus the core2 cpu runs much cooler.

If your going to upgrade buy a quality mobo for the Intel chip.


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December 31, 2007 3:35:44 AM

Bad time to switch to Intel IMO, just hold out till Nehalem or the new revisions of Phenom are released. Not worth it to switch now.
December 31, 2007 4:15:47 AM

Reynod said:
Can I have your FX60 then??

The only noticeable difference will very much depend on the graphics card you have ... and the rest of the system.

A high end graphics card will become cpu bound on an FX60 unless it is overclocked whereas the core 2 chip mildly overclocked won't get cpu bound.

Plus the core2 cpu runs much cooler.

If your going to upgrade buy a quality mobo for the Intel chip.


You are wrong about the graphics card being cpu bound. This idea of a CPU bottlenecking a high end graphics card is a big myth. I have seen an AMD athlon 3200 (single core) run COD4 on high settings no problem with a high end graphics
card. CPU bottleneck will ONLY happen at resolutions below 12X10. And no one with a high end graphics card is going to run their system at that low res.
December 31, 2007 4:27:13 AM

Hey again gents. Here is what I had:
amd fx60
dual 7800 gtx's
asus A8N32 mobo
OCZ pc4000 ram

and here is what I upgraded to:
intel e6850
8800 Ultra
gigabyte ga-x38-dq6 mobo
patriot extreme performance pc2-9600
December 31, 2007 4:30:26 AM

Hey jack, did you buy that system already? If not you could save some cash and buy a e6750 and overclock it a bit. And instead of the 8800ultra buy yourself 2 8800GT's and put them in SLI.
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December 31, 2007 5:49:42 AM

Do you have a large monitor for gaming at higher res jack?

I assumed so.

Otherwise brett is correct.

December 31, 2007 6:30:06 AM

Thx guys. I have about 4 monitors. Yes and high res. I have th 8800 ultra running 2 monitors and the 7800 gtx running the other. Its not an SLI board anyway. I know, why am i using nvidia cards. dont ask! lol
December 31, 2007 10:38:08 AM

do you think we are all nvidia haters on this board? (ur wrong if u do :p )
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December 31, 2007 10:54:30 AM

Eh??

Both ATI and NV make good cards for difference price ranges.

At present NV pwn the top end with teh Ultra, GTX and new GTS.

The mid range has the 88GT and old GTS competing with the ATI 3870 - it fits between them but is a slightly cooler running card.

The 3850 is a nice mid range card slightly below them with no present competitor.

That's how I see it ...

December 31, 2007 11:48:18 AM

brett_monkey said:
You are wrong about the graphics card being cpu bound. This idea of a CPU bottlenecking a high end graphics card is a big myth. I have seen an AMD athlon 3200 (single core) run COD4 on high settings no problem with a high end graphics
card. CPU bottleneck will ONLY happen at resolutions below 12X10. And no one with a high end graphics card is going to run their system at that low res.


I agree with you, but times are changing. There's a lot more physics in games now-a-days. Games like FarCry demand a decent CPU in addition to monster graphics.

If I was upgrading right now I would go quad-core for today's games like Farcry, and tomorrow's games as well.
December 31, 2007 1:15:00 PM

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farcry?



Err... Crysis.


I think it was a deep thought in my mind wishing that Crysis was more like Farcry. I beat Crysis yesterday and I am rather dissapointed.

Halfway through the game (when you're no longer battling the Koreans) the game becomes so uninspired and the levels become more linear it just starts sucking and actually becomes a chore to beat the game.

Farcry is hands down better than Crysis.
December 31, 2007 1:45:57 PM

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i haven't really tried crysis yet, i have downloaded the demo but haven't given it more than 5 minutes. the problem of course was that i thought farcry was terrible and so am biased against crytek for that reason.


If you didn't like FarCry don't get Crysis. The last half of the game was just rubbish!
December 31, 2007 1:47:18 PM

I would not upgrade at this point in time.

It sounds like you have a decent system, but the step up will not be earth-shattering.

I would at least wait until Q1 when the Penryn is out as well as possibly NVIDIA's next Gen Chip.

Even if you don't want a 4-core chip, the Dual Core Penryn will be out Jan '20 and should destroy the E6850 with OC's reaching 4.5 to 5.0Ghz if I had to guess. I've seen those speeds on the Quads, though the 5.0Ghz took extreme cooling. The Dual would likely not require such methods.
December 31, 2007 2:25:35 PM

zenmaster said:
I would not upgrade at this point in time.

It sounds like you have a decent system, but the step up will not be earth-shattering.

I would at least wait until Q1 when the Penryn is out as well as possibly NVIDIA's next Gen Chip.

Even if you don't want a 4-core chip, the Dual Core Penryn will be out Jan '20 and should destroy the E6850 with OC's reaching 4.5 to 5.0Ghz if I had to guess. I've seen those speeds on the Quads, though the 5.0Ghz took extreme cooling. The Dual would likely not require such methods.



Yes this is partically why i never went with the 650 dollar Q6700. I bought the e6850 for 299 and so if i wnated to upgrade to the penryn in a few months I would be TOO pissed at myself......just a little.lol
December 31, 2007 2:42:42 PM

The Intel CPU will have the edge in games and encode faster, but I doubt the difference would be huge. It's not a good idea to buy on hype, just upgrade when you need too. There is always going to be something better, unless ofcourse you have deep pockets and moneys no object.
December 31, 2007 2:42:45 PM

It's about a 25% increase in performance.. That, and it comes with superior overclocking and consumes less energy. Your FX is powerful enough as it is, wait until newer, truly superior CPUs come out.
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December 31, 2007 3:09:44 PM

Drop the 8800 Ultra idea its completely overpriced for a bit higher performance than the 8800GTX.
December 31, 2007 9:50:07 PM

TechnologyCoordinator said:
I agree with you, but times are changing. There's a lot more physics in games now-a-days. Games like FarCry demand a decent CPU in addition to monster graphics.

If I was upgrading right now I would go quad-core for today's games like Farcry, and tomorrow's games as well.



Yea, that is a good point. :) 
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