Anyone is using with the above combination and is there any problem?
I actually need an "urgent upgrade" since my old PC system died. I believe using a good AM2+ board with the cheap 5000+ BE can buy me some time before lower power Phenoms will be out and got to decent prices.
But a tech guy from Gigabyte told me that although the above board should have no problem to support 5000+ BE, there is a chance that I will get a "buggy" chip. He said only 5600+ or above are "bug-free". I cannot find any such claim on the net
Buggy 5000+BE processors? Nonsense! I've got two running at 2.1MHz on standard voltage settings in older motherboards. As of yesterday, these processors were going for $87 (at Newegg.com).
A 5000+BE in an AM2+ motherboard is a great low cost option and it makes perfect sense to wait for the 45nm Phenoms.
The motherboard you picked will work fine.
I'm running at 2.9GHz now. However, the temps reported in CPUID Hardware Monitor seem to be wrong .... there is a TMPIN2 is 92C (I think it's the CPU) but the core temps are 13C and 19C. I wonder if it's a reporting problem by the CPU or the MB.
FYI, the background temp is around 27-28C I guess.
TMPIN2 afaik is a dead sensor, meaning it's not really monitoring anything. 92C would be nuclear meltdown on your mobo =) The operating temperature of this Brisbane core should remain under 65C full load to not shorten it's life.
The voltage issue you are seeing is somewhat strange. I would try to get something else to monitor the voltage and compare it with Bios/CPU-Z. It is not uncommon to have some fluctuation, but anything more than +/- .125 is not very good.
Are there any bios features on that board for temperature management that might be adjusting the cpu multiplier/clock reference? On Asus boards they have an option called "Cool & Quiet" and it is bad news for overclocking.
I run the 5000+ BE with the M3A32 MVP Deluxe w/ Wi-Fi and so far the max OC I have been able to achieve is 3.2ghz, and my ram @ 5-5-5-15 1066 mhz... 24/7 stable. My memory is 2x2GB, and I know the larger amounts of memory the IMC has to address limits your OC.
Good luck on hitting higher numbers, this chip is capable of some crazy OC on air =)
Also another quick question: what is the stock voltage for 5000+BE?
P.S. Had a "display driver" crash and BSOD yesterday. I wonder if I need to increase my DDR voltage a tad or loosen the timings. I don't feel I am OCing the CPU that much, just up the multiplier to 14.5x. Display driver is Catalyst 8.5 already.
Message edited by Free888 on 06-13-2008 at 08:21:47 AM
Currently I am running 1.44V on the Vcore. I have heard a lot of people being able to run less, and still be stable, but I have had no luck at less than 1.44V. I have only been running this chip for about a month, and hopefully after burn-in I will be able to drop it a little bit. However, my temps are great, so I don't worry too much about the voltage.
One thing that I have noticed, is that the Brisbane core seems to be very pick about ram settings when going fast. If you are addressing a large amount of ram, more than 2GB, you will need to find the sweet spot to get the best timings out of both the Ram and CPU.
On you "display driver" crash/BSOD, what was the exact message. Typically problems with CPU/RAM will be MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION BSODs, or if it is during Windows loading, there will be a wider array.
The stock voltage of the 5000+ BE is 1.3V, to the best of my knowledge....
Just as an FYI also, this processor will run stable in the 1.35-1.375 range stable at 3.1. So the jump to 1.4+ is a bit much to get faster than 3.2, but I have not seen any setups that are stable at less than 1.4V for 3.2ghz+.
My BSOD was like this - all of a sudden the screen blinked and Windows says the display driver has recovered from a serious problem. This repeated 2 or 3 times in a row, then BSOD and I believe the culprit is atixxxx something.
I have made some changes to Catalyst (alternative DVI operational mode) later, and so far it's fine. But I suspect that RAM may have also caused the problem. In CPU-Z, the SPD reports 4-4-4-12 settings should use 2.0V - I set 1.9V in BIOS only (but HWMonitor reports 1.95V). I'm using A-Data DDR2 800+ Extreme Edition which is supposed to work in 1.9V-2.1V. Maybe I should be a good boy and set to 2.0V later.
There is no reason that you shouldn't run the ram at 2.1V. That's what the manufacturer recommends, and typically you can overvolt it 10%-15% and have no problems. With a decent cooling setup over the ram you can go higher, but unless you're really OC'ing the ram, then you shouldn't need to.
As far as the display driver crashing, I would just ensure that you have the latest driver. If you are already using the latest driver, when was it released? If it is a fairly new release, sometimes rolling back to the next most recent version is helpful, as sometimes the QA department lets a driver with a few bugs get by, and until many people complain, they won't say anything about it!
I have read a lot of good things about A-Data ram, so if you put the voltage up to 2.1, or 2.08 (if you may be worried about the difference between bios and HWmonitor) I would almost 100% rule it out of the equation.
Also, don't be afraid to get this CPU up another couple hundred of megahertz. Just make sure your temps are good (I use coretemp, very lightweight and accurate for core temps) and keep trying different settings =) However, if you BSOD a lot in the process, you will trash your Windows partition. Over the course of the last month, I have BSOD'd a couple hundred times, and I'm starting to notice my Windows not performing as fast as it did.
I am planning on getting a cold case of beer and using this new Crucial 512MB stick of Ram that I got in the mail yesterday to hit some new highs on the processor, then reloading my machine with my 24/7 OC of 3.2ghz, with my 2x2GB set of G.Skill (F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK) Ram running at 5-5-5-15 @ 1066.
Funny thing is, I just downloaded CoreTemp 0.99 today and found that my core temps are like 7-15C ... maybe this board doesn't give accurate readings in Windows. I did see it give just below 40C in BIOS for the CPU.
