AMD CPU's good for low Power Consumption

Intel could be costly for businesses, I believe

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/0 [...] unbeatable

Quotes from the Tomshardware Article:

In the THG article, the only chips that used the least power were the "Semprons" or the "Celerons" of the AMD world.

Intel's E2xxx series are even lower power than anything tested.
Intel also has even lower power celerons.

Sadly, you still can't find an arguement.

July of last year.... no new additions, changes or announcements.... why..

This is what happens when baron and msbytch have offspring

Or someone named "9-inch" comes back a year after being permabanned. Posting pattern seems similar: select pro-AMD topic name, link article, quote with extreme bias and sometimes out of context, then disappear and never defend the article.

What, no Pentium-M? No 500w thin-client?

Rofl... the article pits the E6300 against a sempron.

Also, the conclusion from that article:

I guess Thunderman forgot to read the last page

This is not even close to this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] 28_80.html

I'll admit that he's wrong in bringing out a July 2007 article with outdated CPU's on both sides as a comparison, but AMD does not "suck". Even the Phenom isn't that far behind the current equivalent Intel quad core. Just look at the benchmarks in Tom's CPU guide.

In most cases, the benchmarks are closer than Intel was to X2 in the Pentium D days. Where Intel wins is in the "enthusiast" market, at the high end, where AMD has absolutely no offering. Since the 45nm Phenom's will be competing against new Intel architecture, but with only basically improved X2 architecture, I expect there to be greater gaps than at present. Even Swift will not close the gap, but will position AMD in the budget/mainstream category.

That does not mean "suck". Intel fanboys are just as trollish as AMD fanboys. AMD got complacent during the days they led with X2, just as Intel got stubborn with Netburst for a few years. When AMD pays off the debt incurred by buying ATI, then they'll be able to put more money into R&D and will probably have a decent offering at the high end.

Via CPU's suck for gaming. AMD does not. Intel didn't suck totally during Netburst days, they were just on the wrong track and they kept their market share and R&D money by foisting a slightly inferior processor on the "Dude you got a Dell" segment of the market. They had quite a bit of help with that, as many OEM's selling in big box stores did not want to buck the "Intel inside" trend.

Me, I'll upgrade to either a really good X2 for a year, or will just give 65nm Phenom a try. I have a couple of ASUS 690G boards that can handle a Phenom with the available bios flash. Were I building a new system right now, I might consider Intel, except their business practices actually suck. AMD's management sucks. Neither of them has tech that sucks, not even during the Netburst days.

Yes, AMD had the thermal advantage during the X2 vs. Netburst "war" but Intel has it today. We will see who has it when there are new architectures from both companies.

I almost hate Intel. They began the PC processor revolution, but their flat out lies and successful fooling of the consumer during Netburst days made me want to buy from any other company than Intel.

The fanboys I feel sorriest for are the Nvidia fanboys. They've got to be hurting since Intel decided to take AMD up on their offer of free Crossfire, plus the fact that AMD almost bought Nvidia. Now, SLI will mostly show up on new Nvidia chipset boards for AMD processors, while Crossfire shows up on both AMD and Intel platforms as the new defacto standard.

Me, I only buy one card per PC, so I'm looking forward to Swift and better hybrid Crossfire in 2009. What is going to happen to hybrid SLI when AMD integrates a 3000 series GPU as a core alongside 2 or 3 K10 cores? Will AMD eventually give up on CPU's without a GPU core, or will those just exist for the notebook market and budget desktop hybrid Crossfire market?

Thanks JK, hugs-n-kisses to you too

If this is 9nm, or sharipoopookitty, or MMM, or any of the others, theres nothing I can do about it until they violate TOS. Nothing in the TOS that prohibits someone from being stupid or a retard, so, if it really is 9 inch or any of the others, I cant do anything about it until they show their true colors and start calling other people names or threatening them.

In the mean time, much like one of our regulars, I find these posts hugely amusing, and ultimately counter productive, IF the OP's intent is to promote a manufacturer using outdated or false information.....just look how many responses there are disproving the post and thus setting the OPs credibility to the appropriate level...i.e not to be trusted. Personally, I think the system worked exactly the way it should, with no moderator intervention required.

thunderman = 9inch reincarnated?

That's because most "help me" threads are repetitive. With all due respect, most "help me" OPs don't spend enough time searching for the answer themselves. How many "my processor is running at lower speed" threads have been created? How many "E6850 vs. Q6600" threads have been created? There are even reviews from reputable sites that directly answer these questions.

On the other hand, you can always get a kick out of these fanboy threads. Its sort of like an entertainment now. This is also the reason why many people frequently visit sites like sharikou's blog.

I'm not pickin on you or anything dude. This guy has the same MO as 9picometer. Just starts a thread with some obscure AMD drivel taken totally out of context and then doesn't come back to talk about it at all. Well, I guess youre right. It all seems to balance out in the end, no?

True Sharikou\Sharikou supporter style.

It does remind me of 9nm too. Throw an article up and then watch the craziness ensue, and then come back when things calm down.

Thunderman = Fanboy

LOL, I can't find anything confirming that, but if that's true that's hillarious.

I think I finally figured it out.

Thunderlessman is actually an Intel Fanboy.
That would seem to be the only reason to start Flame threads and then not make any real attempt to support AMD.

The link article showed that Intel's Dual Core CPUs beat all of AMDs Dual Core CPUs.

The very slow and underpowered single cores from AMD did use more power than the fully powered Dual Core Intels.

However, the Semprons still can't beat the very low power Celerons.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/d [...] Spec=SL9XL

Your Intel Fanboism does great things for Intel Thunderman.
By continually raising bad arguements in favor of AMD you are clearly helping prove their inferiority.

Just wait a year. It will either be 'Yay, AMD's back competing' or 'AMD who?'

Fanboys won't be able to change that process no matter how hard they post.

I was just checking but didn't the 65nm X2s underperform compared to their 90nm counterparts? And also their "jump" to DDR2 did absolutely nothing for performance.

And right now Phenom is 65nm and has a lot of problems and doesn't compete with a Q6600?

I see how thunderman helps Intels side. I guess all we have to do is let him post and we will see more AMD fan embar"ass"ment. I am suprised AMD hasn't tried to bribe him to shut up.

I think he got sucked into a wormhole and is stuck in 2005. He will probably be stuck there unless someone goes and gets him. Anyone wanna volunteer?

I must say you have a point