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Is it worth "upgrading" to this card?

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I have a ATi Radeon X850 Pro AGP on my board as of right now and I am looking to upgrade. After reading this ( http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/1 [...] page5.html ) I came to the conclusion that I want to get a ATi Radeon X1950 Pro AGP but the only place I found it was on amazon for $244. I dont want to spend more than $175 on a card. While searching threw amazon I found the next best thing, the Radeon X1950 GT for $159. Its not as good as the Pro but a hell of alot cheaper. What I want to know is should I buy it? Is it gonna be a big upgrade from the card I already have?

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BTW heres a website I used to compare the video cards. SOme of you might find it useful. http://www.gpureview.com/show_card [...] &card2=519

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What's your processor? Just need to see what your priorities should be...

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When I run dxdiag It says Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2CPUs) (Not sure if that means I have a dual core)
2.5 gigs DDR PC3200 RAM
130 gig seagate harddrive
Asus P4P800-SE motherboard

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Any info would be helpful

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You likely have a Pentium 4 630 or 631, with Hyper Threading.

The x1950PRO would be a great upgrade, and would allow you to play modern games at reasonable settings. I would almost recommend the HD 2600XT, but, it's not going to be as big of an upgrade...it was a lot for me when I went from an x800GT to it, but maybe not from an x850...

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Thanks for helping out. Yes I agree the PRO would be a great upgrade but what about the GT? By 630 or 631 do you mean socket? My sokect is 478.


Message edited by theot13 on 12-31-2007 at 01:23:19 AM
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You in all likelihood have a P4 Northwood that has "hyperthreading" which provides a 2nd 'virtual core'. Hyperthreading does help for applications that are written to take advantage of it. Doom 3, for instance, makes use of it and while not the equivalent to a true 2nd core, does provide a 16% boost in frame rates for this game. The key clue to which processor you have is in the memory. I can't remember if there were very many motherboards made for 5XX and 6XX series of Intel processors that used DDR memory - most of these transitioned over to DDR2.

The 1950 Pro cards are scarce as "hens teeth". If you can wait just a little longer you may be able to purchase one of these:

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/p [...] uctID=1730

VisionTek is also rumored to release a 3850 version as well. The 1950 GT (or the Pro) would not hold a candle to the 3850, but on the other hand, the GT is available today. The price will probably be $20-30 higher than the PCIe variant, as it must include the Realto bridge chip to translate code from the PCIe native interface to AGP.

Good luck in your quest...

Oh, in terms of whether or not it's worth the upgrade, look at this former Tom's article:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/0 [...] age10.html

The 1950 Pro made a difference for a 2.5 Athlon, and an even bigger difference for a 3.4 Ghz Athlon.


Message edited by ejay on 12-31-2007 at 01:35:03 AM
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That PowerColor HD 3850 PCS 512MB AGP looks great but is it going to cost alot? Like I said my max spending cash is $175. I might be willing to go over it by alittle for that card but not alot.

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Add $20-30 to what you can buy a PCIe 3850 for, and this should get you in the ballpark, possibly around $200, but it would be worth it compared to what a "third party" 1950 Pro is selling for on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-lis [...] dition=all

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Yes I agree the PRO on amazon is not a good deal but I was talking about the GT. But if the 3850 is gonna be 200 I might as well wait for that.

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DO IT! GET IT! GT

------------------------------ Intel Quad 2 Core Q6600 @ 3.20Ghz FSB @ 356 MHz, 1.288 voltage, multiplier @ 9x
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OK ILL DO IT, once I hear a good reason to get the GT. Everyone keeps talking about getting the PRO and I am not even talking about it.

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Found another 1950 Pro, but it's still too much...

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna [...] u=A0948347

The 3850 would still be hard to beat...if you can wait...otherwise jump on the GT. I, personally, would wait. And, the 386X varieties are coming as well, though not as powerful and the 3850.

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A better card will give you more FPS but will be bottlenecked by your CPU. To take advantage of a more powerful GPU you need a C2D.

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