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January 1, 2008 4:30:18 AM

I know integrated graphics cards arn't really, graphics cards, there graphics chips. But i had a question about 2 integrated graphic cards...I was thinking of buying a computer with a Intel GMA x3100, or a computer with Nvidia geforce 6150SE. I want to know which would be best for simple gaming (like halo), and things like low power consumption.

I heard that the Intel GMA x3100 will support directx 10 later with a new driver. The intel GMA x3100 will be with a intel e2140. And the NVidia geforce 6150se will be with a amd athlon 64 x2 processor.

Which pair would be best for most computer use? Which graphics chip would be the better one? :sarcastic: 
January 1, 2008 4:44:30 AM

I am myself a GMA X3000. While I agree its doing a fine job of moderate gaming, I have lost faith in intel driver promises :(  Better you go with Nvidia. Apart from that, I think both are evensteven(my point being,dont count on DX10 with GMA).
January 1, 2008 6:19:20 AM

I'm pretty sure that the Nvidia will be better.
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a b U Graphics card
January 1, 2008 7:22:07 AM

I'm pretty sure a descrete gpu will be better than both. get a 7300 or x1550 for ~$25. boards without built in graphics tend to be about $25 cheaper too, so it should cost about the same. also, get the intel board, you'll be happier with c2d.
January 1, 2008 7:39:20 AM

When I 1st got my system it had a 6150LE and a 7300LE card that came with it (upgraded card right away-cheaper).
It gave me a 3.2 grahics score for Vista, not too bad for a cheap card.
a b U Graphics card
January 1, 2008 8:11:31 AM

john333 said:
I know integrated graphics cards arn't really, graphics cards, there graphics chips. But i had a question about 2 integrated graphic cards...I was thinking of buying a computer with a Intel GMA x3100, or a computer with Nvidia geforce 6150SE. I want to know which would be best for simple gaming (like halo), and things like low power consumption.

I heard that the Intel GMA x3100 will support directx 10 later with a new driver. The intel GMA x3100 will be with a intel e2140. And the NVidia geforce 6150se will be with a amd athlon 64 x2 processor.

Which pair would be best for most computer use? Which graphics chip would be the better one? :sarcastic: 

Is this a desktop or a laptop that your looking at? What is the brand/make of this computer. We might be able to help you out more, especially if we know how much you are budgeting for this computer.
January 1, 2008 9:15:17 PM

lunyone said:
Is this a desktop or a laptop that your looking at? What is the brand/make of this computer. We might be able to help you out more, especially if we know how much you are budgeting for this computer.


This is for a Dell desktop im thinking of buying. For around $300-$400 without monitor. The nvidia geforce 6150SE has 128mb of shared, while intel gma x3100 has about 312mb from what i read. Is nvidia planning to make newer integrated graphics?

So what would be the BEST choice for long term? because im not planning to get a dedicated graphics card right now...
January 1, 2008 9:24:42 PM

I think 6150 is the second top performing onboard next to the ATI 1200 something don't really know. Intel may have more VRAM but it's like a 1024mb 8400GS no use for that much memory...
a b U Graphics card
January 1, 2008 9:28:10 PM

Just get a graphics card. You can get a cheap 8xxx card for about $30 (PCIe). The reason is that Integrated graphics Reserve part of your RAM for the graphics. For example if you have 512MB RAM and your graphics reserve 128MB then you would be left with only 384MB RAM.

Like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*Note: You can OC the card for better performance. I have a 8400GS @ 680/480
January 1, 2008 9:29:39 PM

You say your want to play Halo. Halo 3? Integrated graphics Mobos just aren't powerful enough for new games. Halo 1 yes no problems, possibly Halo 2.
January 1, 2008 9:33:55 PM

ati 1270 vs nvidia 7150 vs intel 3100

I think that sums up the current integrated solutions? From what read the 1270's perform the best out of the bunch. Since I don't have any of these platforms to do any real testing you should probably check for some benchmarks.

I did some research myself on this, and came up with the conclusion that its cheaper to buy a regular board and get an older series graphics card, and you actually get much more performance that way. The integrated solutions are so bad they will make you vomit from motion sickness. It's comparable to a power point slide show. Weee! next frame, and... next frame, and.... next frame, etc...
a b U Graphics card
January 1, 2008 11:15:54 PM

Okay here's what I'd get if I was going to build you a basic system that is expandable and not proprietary.

CPU - $72 shipped Easily OC'able and good solid C2D chip.
Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale 1.6GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - $75 shipped Nice basic mATX mobo with upgrade options to a later GPU. Has integrated grahpics, but has a PCI-e slot :) 
GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory - $27 shipped Solid performing DDR2 800mHz. Only need 1 gig if running on XP. I'd get 2 gig for about $40 or so, but this will start you out.
Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case/PSU combo - $87 - $30 MIR = $57 shipped Nice solid build and PSU has 27A on 12v rail, so will be plenty for any mainstream GPU out there.
Antec NSK4480B Black 0.8mm cold-rolled steel construction ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burner - $33 shipped and comes with Burning software already :) 
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - ~$292 shipped - $30 MIR = $262!! Now just add your OS of choice (preferrably XP) and your good to go. You'll be able to do mild OC and not be restricted. You can add a GPU for around $30-50 and have a much better system for the $. Also add 1gb more DDR2 and your ready for either OS (Vista or XP).
January 1, 2008 11:39:41 PM

john333 said:
I know integrated graphics cards arn't really, graphics cards, there graphics chips. But i had a question about 2 integrated graphic cards...I was thinking of buying a computer with a Intel GMA x3100, or a computer with Nvidia geforce 6150SE. I want to know which would be best for simple gaming (like halo), and things like low power consumption.

I heard that the Intel GMA x3100 will support directx 10 later with a new driver. The intel GMA x3100 will be with a intel e2140. And the NVidia geforce 6150se will be with a amd athlon 64 x2 processor.

Which pair would be best for most computer use? Which graphics chip would be the better one? :sarcastic: 


Neither.
You will need to buy a real GPU.
January 2, 2008 12:22:20 AM

For gaming, you really are better off buying a video card, not using an on-board for gaming.
January 2, 2008 12:47:13 AM

Okay, thanks everyone, the information is going to help me a lot...

But isnt AMD better than Intel (price vs performance)?
January 2, 2008 1:42:14 AM

oh no ... here we go again ...
January 2, 2008 2:24:14 AM

You mention simple gaming as your intended use for this desktop. If that is in fact the case, then please consider a system that has a discreet graphics card. (PCI Express 16 preferred)

Something like this is Directx 10 compatible but not a fantastic gamer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Most motherboards with on board graphics have a slot available for graphic card upgrade so check to see if either of your choices have a slot available. If your mind is set, however, for onboard graphics only, go with the 6150 and extra memory, as onboard memory invariably steals from system memory.
January 2, 2008 2:35:39 AM

agreed w/ onestar, if u really want integrated graphics then do not get intel because their integrated graphics do not support Hardware transform and lighting
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