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In relation to another post, why is Intel perservering with celeron production, when the eg. E2140's are so good and cheap? :pt1cable:

The Cereron would have to be so ultra cheap for any one to buy them.

I guess they would fit into a internet library setup ;)

Do you think the new celerons would be equivalent in performance to a 3ghz 512 cashe P4 or less?


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I can tell you from the couple of years I worked in computer sales at a mom and pop joint that the world is full of cheapskates. There will be a huge market for these el cheapo chips.

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The newer Celerons are essentially single core versions of the E2 and E4 series processors. I use a Celeron 420 in my Linux web surfing box. For basic tasks, multiple cores are not needed. My 420 also only cost $39. I used to run the same Linux setup with an E4300 and could not tell the difference.

Celerons are also low cost solutions in low end notebook computers.


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tlmck wrote :

The newer Celerons are essentially single core versions of the E2 and E4 series processors. I use a Celeron 420 in my Linux web surfing box. For basic tasks, multiple cores are not needed. My 420 also only cost $39. I used to run the same Linux setup with an E4300 and could not tell the difference.

Celerons are also low cost solutions in low end notebook computers.


For that price quoted, i can see that there is a niche for them and in bulk PC builds, a lot of money could be saved.

There performance would then be equal to a Prescott 3GHz CPU at least if in the E2/E4 range.


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Basic computer users who just want to surf the net and do some basic tasks, Celerons and semprons will suit them just fine.

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speedbird wrote :

Basic computer users who just want to surf the net and do some basic tasks, Celerons and semprons will suit them just fine.




A chip to compete with the Phenom

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What speedbird said.

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sedaine wrote :

A chip to compete with the Phenom



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Performance per dollar the Celeron E2140 Blows the Phenom 9500 away. n00b....

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=444

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Gh0stDrag0n wrote :

Performance per dollar the Celeron E2140 Blows the Phenom 9500 away. n00b....

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=444


but good amd MB cost less and the lower end amd duel cores are a good buy.


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Joe_The_Dragon wrote :

but good amd MB cost less and the lower end amd duel cores are a good buy.


True a AM2 mobo and a Athlon X2 are a good budget choice but a good AM2+ motherboard and a Phenom are not a good buy compared to Intel's offerings.


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Gh0stDrag0n wrote :

Performance per dollar the Celeron E2140 Blows the Phenom 9500 away. n00b....

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=444


WOW!!! It even blows away the E9650 Quad :pt1cable: Seriously, you're the n0oB. Try and understand the meaning of Price\Performance.
I guess we should all run out and get an X2 3800+

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And here we go again, the immaturity levels rise again. Just have to change the whole entire topic to AMD vs Intel... Stick to the topic please.

Celerons can make great processors for individuals who don't require much power or are just now learning how to use a computer. Moreover, they make great beginner overclocking chips...

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Gh0stDrag0n wrote :

True a AM2 mobo and a Athlon X2 are a good budget choice but a good AM2+ motherboard and a Phenom are not a good buy compared to Intel's offerings.


the nforce am2+ boards should hit the same price points as the older nforce 5xx boards.


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Celerons can make great processors for individuals who don't require much power or are just now learning how to use a computer. Moreover, they make great beginner overclocking chips...


but they suck for vista users and if add on board video to it the system go even slower.


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Yes, let's stick to the topic: Why does intel produce celery. Especialy why is the celery in the produce department? AMD is very competitive here as it is with its Phenumnuts and has a great chip in its Simpleton line.

Oh, ok...

First of all we have to realise that the majority of personal comptuer buyers don't know the diference between a uarch and the St. Louis Arch. Celeron is a marketing name that is well stuck in the consumer psyche for good, cheap, generic, general purpose CPUs. As long as the market demand is there, the Celerons will keep geting produced.

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Performance per dollar the Celeron E2140 Blows the Phenom 9500 away. n00b....

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=444



You said Celeron E2140 :pt1cable:

That CPU isn't a celeron is it?

How / what are the celerons numbers - identification.


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http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/12/ [...] uary-20th/

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] 2&Itemid=1

First Dual Core Celeron coming out with 512kb cache and 800fsb, looks like Intel found a way to get rid of all their extras.

I just took a quick look at my motherboard support list, they added:
Celeron DualCore(Conroe, L2 Cache 512K)
E1600 (2.4GHz, rev.M0) sample 800 12 SINCE 1.3

That sounds great if it is in the $60 range.

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sparky79 wrote :

http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/12/ [...] uary-20th/

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] 2&Itemid=1

First Dual Core Celeron coming out with 512kb cache and 800fsb, looks like Intel found a way to get rid of all their extras.

I just took a quick look at my motherboard support list, they added:
Celeron DualCore(Conroe, L2 Cache 512K)
E1600 (2.4GHz, rev.M0) sample 800 12 SINCE 1.3

That sounds great if it is in the $60 range.



The main difference is half the cashe.

512 less of cashe would not reduce performance much if cpu is running at same clock.


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Simply say the Pentium E2140 is still not cheap enough, especially for
the 3rd world. Around USD 65, the price tag is still too high for an
affordable computer for people with monthly income just <USD 500 to
have a computer of decent speed.

Still the estimated price (USD 60) for Celeron E1600 series dual core
will still be too high for some people, and this is the reason why the
world need some slow and cheap-in-price processor. These processors
will not be enough for high definition and gaming, but for online services
and document processing and DVD video playback, they are good
enough.

By the way, "Celeron"s are more environmental friendly.


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