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June 11, 2008 1:18:52 PM

Hey peeps. First time post. I purchased all of these parts because it was getting good feedback.

I need some step by step instructions on how to overclock the $500 PC build that was set up at the following:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphic-game,19...

I am still waiting for a few bits but how do I overclock everything?

Is there a walk through where I can use the same settings in the review? It does say it changed x to y etc but I need to know where do I go etc to make these changes? I am new to overclocking and need to make sure I am changing the correct values.

Do I need any extra software or is everything I need to change in the bios?

Thanks! :love: 
June 11, 2008 6:42:52 PM

It is an intel. Thanks for the link.

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June 12, 2008 12:09:48 PM

awesome thanks
June 20, 2008 5:51:26 PM

rfatcheric said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/245679-29-guide-overc...

This is a very detailed, step by step guide for that board and chip. I have the same setup and am currently at 8x400 for 3.2ghz.



All the parts came and I put it together last night.

Since you have the board, can you tell me what I need to change?

I am getting a little lost in the woods of info.

I just need to know change XXX to YYY when in the bios.

Thanks!
June 21, 2008 3:51:20 AM

every system OC differentlt.just dont expect someone does it on XXX and you can do it on XXX as well.that is the rule of OC. you need to up each setting one by one then boost voltage to go further.
June 22, 2008 9:39:39 AM

Or put the voltage to a certain point and OC as far as you can :D 
June 22, 2008 1:17:12 PM

yeah that work as well:)  look out for load temp though:p 
June 24, 2008 12:46:55 AM

Fail.

PC wont power up.

I changed the multi to 8/400 giving me a core of 3.2

I changed the voltage to 1.45

One thing I didn't understand. It said to change the ddr cas 5-44-10. how do i go about doing that?

I reset the bios but am wary about doing it again. What would make the PC auto shut down? At normal temp my CPU is 30 degrees. The cooler rocks balls. I think I am missing one or 2 obvious changes that allows the whole thing to work. Is there anything obvious I need to change in order for the PC tp work with the new CPU core change?
June 24, 2008 12:50:43 AM

change the timing of the ram to 5-5-5-18 for now and leave the voltage on 2V. since im not there to test it out. can you list the vcore displayed in CPU-Z in windows for both IDLE + FULL LOAD.
June 25, 2008 2:18:06 PM

Okay I will try it. Will it be obvious in the bios where I change the ram timing to 5-5-5-18

I could not see where I could change values. I am in work now.
June 25, 2008 2:25:03 PM

since you dont know where to do what its better to take picture of your actual BIOS OC menu.
June 25, 2008 6:07:04 PM

This is a Gigabyte motherboard, so you'll have to hit Ctrl F1 in the BIOS menu to access such options.
June 25, 2008 6:14:00 PM

Awesome. Thanks.
June 27, 2008 2:21:41 AM

I get three long beeps. I can't take a pic of my screen.
June 30, 2008 5:39:41 PM

does your pc shut down completely when you turn it on or it turns on then off in like 2 sec then will come on?
June 30, 2008 5:42:27 PM

iluvgillgill said:
does your pc shut down completely when you turn it on or it turns on then off in like 2 sec then will come on?


Once I save settings and exit bios it shuts down immediatley.

Then starts back up, waits for a few seconds, then shuts down again. It does this three times before starting again with the fail safe defaults.

I think it must me a gigabyte built in stability routine.
June 30, 2008 5:44:57 PM

that means your mobo dont like the OC on your CPU. its called the "twice reboot".

try to fine tune the OC setting. thats the only way to solution.sorry!
June 30, 2008 5:50:39 PM

iluvgillgill said:
that means your mobo dont like the OC on your CPU. its called the "twice reboot".

try to fine tune the OC setting. thats the only way to solution.sorry!



(Shakes my fist to the TH $500 over clocked PC article)

LIES! !!!! LIIIIEEESSS!!!!

haha

June 30, 2008 5:57:03 PM

you really need to fine tune the setting.spend your whole weekend is a good idea. i OC a gigabyte 650i before. even the OC is prime stable for 24hrs. but the bios doesnt like it when boot up from cold. but if i do restart in windows the OC will stay. but when its been shut down completely, once i turn it on again after the "twice reboot" it will reset the OC to stock. then by then i press reset on the case it will restart with my OC. its ok with a warm reboot not cold.:) 
June 30, 2008 6:14:55 PM

iluvgillgill said:
you really need to fine tune the setting.spend your whole weekend is a good idea. i OC a gigabyte 650i before. even the OC is prime stable for 24hrs. but the bios doesnt like it when boot up from cold. but if i do restart in windows the OC will stay. but when its been shut down completely, once i turn it on again after the "twice reboot" it will reset the OC to stock. then by then i press reset on the case it will restart with my OC. its ok with a warm reboot not cold.:) 


I spent around 2 hours edging everything forward, trying different multiplers etc etc. I did manage a boot at 2.5 however when it got into Windows land it froze.

I'll try the warm reboot. Thanks for all of your helpage.
June 30, 2008 6:35:37 PM

thefyn said:
helpage.


:lol: 
a b K Overclocking
June 30, 2008 9:25:18 PM

To OP. Just making sure. You have the P35-DS3L and not the EP35-DS3L, right?
June 30, 2008 9:58:26 PM

flyin15sec said:
To OP. Just making sure. You have the P35-DS3L and not the EP35-DS3L, right?


Yarp. It is the P35-DS3L
July 1, 2008 5:36:43 AM

wats the difference?
July 1, 2008 1:24:58 PM

UPDATE: Looking good now. I am up to 3ghz. Looks like the memory was the issue and I had to scale that down a timing wise. It does boot at 3.2 however Windows crashes. BUT I WILL TAKE IT! :-)

July 1, 2008 10:46:32 PM

andyro0 said:
wats the difference?


the difference is the E in the new model means Eco. so the new model is greener.
July 1, 2008 10:47:15 PM

oh and some fancy LED on the mobo as well!:D  bling factor?!?!
July 10, 2008 2:59:55 AM

Awwww...I was going so well:

So I manage to get it up to 3,2 ghz and it seemed okay

I ran a burn in benchmark and walked away. The temp when I left it was 55 degrees after an hour of 100% CPU activity. I went and watched a movie, came back to a nice blue screen of death.

I switched the PC off. Waited for it to cool, and noticed it still booted at 3.2ghz CPU etc etc.

HOWEVER, when I opened up CPUZ it said I was running at HALF speed 1.6. The MOST I can now get out of my PC is the standard 1.8ghz, the standard spec for the CPU. No matter what I change in the Bios, it will NOT overclock.

So it looks like the settings I place in the bios are being overidden somewhere. What happened? Any ideas?

When I reboot and go into the bios the overclocked values I initially entered are still there. But when I boot into windows land the CPUZ tells me I am not overclocked.
July 10, 2008 3:22:13 AM

is speedstep or cle turned off?
a b K Overclocking
July 10, 2008 4:53:50 PM

^Agreed. You need to disable EIST/SpeedStep.

My settings for E2180 @3.2Ghz:


a b K Overclocking
July 10, 2008 4:54:39 PM

4800th Post! W00t!
July 11, 2008 12:47:51 AM

Stupid question. How do I disable it? I can't find it. I have skills yo
July 11, 2008 2:45:15 AM

I did install PC booster. Could this have changed a setting to overide my bios settings?

I uninstalled it however still my settings are not sticking. REALLY frustrating.
July 11, 2008 4:27:20 AM

I changed the power settings to always on..Still...the values reflected in the bios do not make it to windows...

I am a2 1.2 ffs nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
July 14, 2008 12:15:36 AM

:-(
July 14, 2008 12:40:06 AM

wow that's a decent computer for 500~ bucks.
July 15, 2008 12:25:00 PM

Not for me it aint :-)

1.8 ghz ftl
a b K Overclocking
July 15, 2008 4:30:46 PM

OP: Check the manual on how to disable SpeedStep and EIST.
July 16, 2008 1:54:01 PM

Shadow703793 said:
OP: Check the manual on how to disable SpeedStep and EIST.


I disabled both. Still, when I get into windows, it shows 1.2 ghz

I think I will say F it and reinstall windows. Every time I boot into the bios my overclocked settings are there and in place because the CPU is a little hotter than usual. As soon as I get into windows the CPUID tells me I am running at 1.2 ghtz and it peaks at 1.8 on heavy loads.

DRIVING

ME

MAD
a b K Overclocking
July 16, 2008 2:58:43 PM

Looks like the BIOS settings aren't sticking. Btw, do you have a EP35-DS3L?
July 16, 2008 3:33:36 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Looks like the BIOS settings aren't sticking. Btw, do you have a EP35-DS3L?


No it is the P35-DS3L

July 16, 2008 3:38:03 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Looks like the BIOS settings aren't sticking. Btw, do you have a EP35-DS3L?


The bios settings stick (like when I disable the on board sound etc. Only anything over clocking will not stick.

I did get a blue screen of death after load testing it at 3,2 ghz at 100% CPU load. This was after 2 hours.

Could I have broken something?
a b K Overclocking
July 16, 2008 3:44:55 PM

Try 3Ghz and see. Also list:

VID
CPU Temp with Prime95 Small FFT
Full voltage settings (ie CPU voltage, GMCH voltage,RAM,etc)
July 16, 2008 3:49:21 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Try 3Ghz and see. Also list:

VID
CPU Temp with Prime95 Small FFT
Full voltage settings (ie CPU voltage, GMCH voltage,RAM,etc)



I did. I also tried it at 2ghz and it took me down to 1.2 with 1.6 load max.

July 16, 2008 3:52:23 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Try 3Ghz and see. Also list:

VID
CPU Temp with Prime95 Small FFT
Full voltage settings (ie CPU voltage, GMCH voltage,RAM,etc)


Off the top of my head cpu voltage was 1.5ish ddr 2 etc etc was .2 over.
July 16, 2008 3:53:13 PM

I also tried various voltage settings (without going to far in the red) and the same result.
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