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Look at my NEW rig! And thanks to everyone who helped me build it.

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December 26, 2007 2:32:56 PM

Well after months of researching and learning what to choose I finally made some decisions and build myself a new computer. I would like to thank everyone who posted constructive comments on my threads and most importantly I'd like to thank cnumartyr for he helped me out a considerable amount in learning how to overclock, and what hardware to use.

So here are the specs on my new rig and some pictures.

Asus P5K-E motherboard,
Intel Core 2 Quad 6600@3.6GHz, (Thermalright 120-Ultra Extreme)
ATI Radeon HD3870@860/2700, (Thermaltake Duorb gpu cooler)
4 Gigabytes Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 1066,
Creative Audigy 2 ZS,
Western Digital 500 Gigabyte,
Thermaltake Toughpower 700watt,
Antec 900 (7x120mm + 200mm fans),
Merc Stealth Gaming Keyboard,
Logitech Mx518 mouse,
Samsung 226BW 22inch,
Windows XP Pro

After holiday sales and shopping around for the best deals I believe all this came out to a total of $2,000.

On a side note, I originally started out with a Asus Maximus Formula x38 Motherboard. It was defective and what I thought to be overly expensive so I decided to use what cnumartyr has because its cheaper and overclocks like a dream. I also Had a Thermaltake V1 cpu cooler witch proved inefficient at cooling my cpu after 3.2Ghz. I sold it to a friend and got the Thermalright 120-Ultra Extreme witch cost the same but performs much better. I now have my Cpu clocked to 3.6ghz and It has never gone above 60c.

Now for the Kick ass pics!






I would like to note that with the combination of aftermarket cpu coolers and the fan controller I use I can effectively switch off every fan in my case when running my computer idle. The 200mm fan on the top of the Antec Nine Hundred provides sufficient exhaust flow for this. The cpu does reach a core temp of 40c idle, but that’s not bad at all for completely silent computing! However, when stress testing or Gameing or running Folding at home I like to turn some fans on :) 

Notice the push pull fan arrangement to pull cool air from outside the case.

I used the Antec fans that came with the case in a push pull setup on the CPU cooler and replaced the Front fans with Thermaltake 120mm red fans.

The Sunbeam Rheobus Fan Speed Controller Is by far the Best fan controller EVER. The Leds are a bit bright for me but I will fix that on my own. Get yours here: http://www.petrastechshop.com/surhfanspcob.html

The Antec Nine Hundred has precut holes for cable routing. Making for a nice Clean look(inside the case).

Overclocking was fantastic with the Asus P5k-e and a Intel Q6600. I managed to get a very stable 3.6ghz out of it using a vcore of 1.325v at FSB 400x9. After 12 hours of stress testing with Prime 95 My temps never went above 58c! All thanks to the Thermalright 120-Ultra. Get Yours Here!: http://www.petrastechshop.com/thulhecpucos.html
Someday when I’m really bored or something I'll try and get it to 3.8Ghz :D 



And this is my little brother, He likes to stare at the LED's :pt1cable: 




So thanks again to everyone who helped me out with this build. And If you are like me and have questions about building a computer or Overclocking, Cnumartyr is your guy!

Peace :sol: 



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December 26, 2007 2:58:15 PM

Looks great! I do have one tiny suggestions.... move the lava lamp away from the computer. :s If you have an intake there (or your CPU cooler is pulling air in through that slot - it's going to be warm air, which may raise your temps. :p  *edit* After looking at your cooler - it looks like you are venting straight from front to back - so the lava lamp shouldn't be a problem... unless it explodes! :o 


Nice touch with the red LED's on the Antec. :sol: 
December 26, 2007 3:10:04 PM

Es muy bright and colorful!!!! I want a similar cooling setup in mine

Quick Question
1) On the front intake, how did you get two extra ones at the end (2 in very front and then two in back of cage). Where did you put the HDD that blocks one of them?

2) With the Thermalright 120, does it block the side fan?

3) What red fans did you use? (Are they transparent?)
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December 26, 2007 3:21:58 PM

It looks like a great setup.... but I am not one for the multi colors... I think this would look much better with all red led fans so it matches the lava lamp.
December 26, 2007 3:28:02 PM

Quote:
2) With the Thermalright 120, does it block the side fan?


I don't think he has one attached as it really isn't needed.

Quote:
3) What red fans did you use? (Are they transparent?)


He posted that he had 120mm Thermaltake Red's, it's kinda hard to see in the middle of all the pictures though. :p 


Quote:
It looks like a great setup.... but I am not one for the multi colors... I think this would look much better with all red led fans so it matches the lava lamp.
I kinda agree with you. I'm going all blue my self... just waiting for my Razer Lachesis (blue) to match my Antec 900. :( 
December 26, 2007 4:13:27 PM

The fans are transparent witch I don’t like so much, but with the way the case conceals them It turns out looking pretty good. As for the multi colors, they have some significance. Blue for Intel, Red for ATI. Some people might not like it, But I do =P. And I Modified the floppy drive conversion bay to house my Hard drive to make room for the extra fan. The only problem with this is if you want more than 1 hard drive you'll have to do without the extra fan witch I will probably end up doing at some point.

Also, I removed the clear plastic on the side window. A fan will not fit there with the thermalright 120 ultra. However It would fit it if you had the cooler mounted horizontal and it exhausted upwards out of the top of the case, witch you can do with the Antec Nine Hundred. Ive also herd that if you want to side fan, you can saw the corner off the housing of the fan and it will fit. I just didnt really care to.
December 26, 2007 6:46:57 PM

What do you guys think of my 3dMark06 score?
December 26, 2007 7:18:02 PM

Great setup man! Glad you finally got it all finished up!
December 26, 2007 7:32:13 PM

Wirelessfender, if possible, can you please post your BIOS setting? I am getting the same motherboard Asus P5K-E for my new build and would like to see your bios setting. Thank you!
December 26, 2007 7:36:06 PM

The 900 has precut holes now? Nice rig, I may rebuy one of these new 900's with the holes, as i cut my own and it is a tough fit to get the back side panel on.
December 26, 2007 7:42:35 PM

wirelessfender said:
Blue for Intel, Red for ATI. Some people might not like it, But I do =P. And I Modified the floppy drive conversion bay to house my Hard drive to make room for the extra fan.

The 900 has precut holes now


Too bad you couldn't replace the VGA Coolers LEDs to red

Also, eric, there are precut holes if you want to call them that
Theres one where the PSU goes that really holds it down, but I use as a hole.
Also there are two along the Hard Drive bays. They are pretty useless because you have to get to the holes but I have my fans threaded through them

Edit: Does anyone know of good Blue LED fans that are preferably black like the ones that come installed in the case? I want to use them as fans where the harddrives go like where wirelessfender has them?

Also, wirelessfender, how did you "mod" the bay for the Hard Drive?
December 26, 2007 7:59:14 PM

I give ya two thums up homey..!! Sexy looking! NOW GO ENJOY IT AND OWN!
December 26, 2007 8:19:23 PM

Awesome! Excellent o/c's on cpu and video card! Great 3dmark results!
December 26, 2007 11:24:48 PM

Silverion7 7, I took the plastic floppy drive thing and mounted the hard drive onto it. you can only use 2 screws though so make them tight. Then you have to set the black plastic floppy/hard drive mount back an inch or so to can fit the little cover on the front of the case. Doing this offsets the screw holes to secure it. So I drilled new little holes where they needed to be and used little pointy screws with force to secure it. You have to be careful because plastic is soft and you don’t want to screw it too tight. Hope that helps
December 26, 2007 11:27:52 PM

Another note on the precut holes, It was still pretty hard to fit the side door back on, you have to use allot of force. But as you can see by the picture it really does tidy the inside up. Just take a look at all that and imagine it all INSIDE.

December 26, 2007 11:57:31 PM

diehard said:
Wirelessfender, if possible, can you please post your BIOS setting? I am getting the same motherboard Asus P5K-E for my new build and would like to see your bios setting. Thank you!


Here Ya go. Hope this is what you need. Keep in mind, Your voltage settings may varry.



December 26, 2007 11:58:38 PM

looks good.....
December 27, 2007 12:16:10 AM

nice rig ... nice 3d score with the HD.

;) 
December 27, 2007 10:28:14 AM

Looks great. Gotta get a new lava lamp now though to match the colours.
December 27, 2007 12:20:33 PM

wirelessfender said:
The fans are transparent witch I don’t like so much, but with the way the case conceals them It turns out looking pretty good. As for the multi colors, they have some significance. Blue for Intel, Red for ATI. Some people might not like it, But I do =P. And I Modified the floppy drive conversion bay to house my Hard drive to make room for the extra fan. The only problem with this is if you want more than 1 hard drive you'll have to do without the extra fan witch I will probably end up doing at some point.

Also, I removed the clear plastic on the side window. A fan will not fit there with the thermalright 120 ultra. However It would fit it if you had the cooler mounted horizontal and it exhausted upwards out of the top of the case, witch you can do with the Antec Nine Hundred. Ive also herd that if you want to side fan, you can saw the corner off the housing of the fan and it will fit. I just didnt really care to.


Now that you explain why you used the different colors... it makes sense. I think it is a stellar looking case and you did a great job with the wire management. Looks beautiful inside and I love that heat sink (I have one too in the push pull form you do. You don’t really get any benefit from that until you stop running whatever task is utilizing it. I did research on this and to see if more powerful fans (scythe fans (60 cfm) vs Antech 120cfm fan) and found that they were the same in temp but running dual fans cools faster. It dose not run cooler, but after running a process that heats up the heat sink, it drops the temperature faster. I can get my Q6600 B3 to idle in the mid 30's. I do not know if this is good or not, for me it is not, i want mid 20's.

Wow... that was a rant. I am now looking at getting a 900 because of your case. I like the BTX like form factor part. Also, Your score is great!
December 27, 2007 1:21:12 PM

What you say makes sense about 2 fans cooling faster. I didnt see temps decrese, but what I did notice is after stress testing all the cores with Prime95 for hours at a time, It would return to idle temp in like 5 seconds.

Also, My Idle temps are mid 30's with the fan on 50% and upper 30's with the fan at 100%. But this is at 3.6Ghz so its great considering I seen stock Q6600's with the stock heatsink idle that hot. Right now I am considering lapping both the heatsink and CPU if I ever go for 3.8Ghz.
December 27, 2007 3:09:31 PM

Yeah that makes sense as well for you to get worse performance with faster fans. You start to slow down the one that is pushing the air out of the heatsink because the one that is pushing the air through the heatsink slows down the fan blades or disrupts the air flow. Also, if you have case fans that vent out of the case right behind the heatsink fan with the fans turned all the way up, you slow those down and actually cause the case to very slowly heat up because it can not move the warm air out.

You time for it to return to idle temp is spot on. With one fan, it takes about 7-20 seconds or so, depending on what fan you use and cfm (this also depends on the ambient temp). Big difference huh?

I guess you have a G0 stepping q6600. If I overclock mine at all, it jumps to an idle speed of high 30 (about 37-39) to low 40 (40-41); depending on my OC. I have been running at stock speed for some time because the speed increase is not noticeable, or I can achieve the same speed increase by OC'ing my RAM.
December 27, 2007 3:50:53 PM

Nice rig :) . I might be getting the same Fan Speed Controller. Exactly how fine can you control the fan RPM? (ie +/-100, 50, etc)
December 27, 2007 5:23:34 PM

Hey wireless:

Where did you get the second adapter for the fan on the back of the hard drive cage?
December 27, 2007 6:03:09 PM

Go for 4ghz! You can do it!
December 27, 2007 6:23:30 PM

Hey man, I am in the same position you were in a couple months ago: doing all my research, about to get my PC. I actually just ordered my Antec 900 today, looks like a sweet case. I really appreciate you pointing out that sunbeam rheobus fan speed controller, I'll definitely use that. Also, that looks like a great heatsink. do you think i'd need it? I plan to overclock a E4500 processor to about 3.2 with the gigabyte ga-p35-ds3L LGA 775 mobo.

oh and btw, what do you think of your p5k-se? I was thinking about that one, is it better than the gigabyte ds3L?


Well, good luck man, looks like a sweeet system, get back to me soon, thanks
AJ
December 27, 2007 6:31:42 PM

You probably dont need the Thermalright. I'm getting the Zerotherm Nirvana ($37 on newegg). It cools well, looks good, and has a blue LED to go with my 900. It will be super blue (5-7 Blue fans, blue mouse, blue keyboard, and blue LEDs on the Rheobus)

Edit: I have the DS3L and it is very good
December 27, 2007 6:34:31 PM

Hey Silverion, you have the same processor I am planning on getting. Does it overclock well at all? I was planning on getting the e2180, but went with the e4500 instead for the extra cache.
December 27, 2007 6:39:52 PM

I'm sort of disappointed with it compared to the lesser E2160. I have trouble breaking 3.0. I've taken a break and later going to try 9 and 8 multipliers.
December 27, 2007 6:45:50 PM

Aj, If you plan to over clock a aftermarket cpu cooler is a must. However the Thermalright 120 Ultra is pretty much the best heat sink you can get. 58$ is an outstanding price for such a great cooler considering there are many other coolers out there that cost more and are less effective. I would defiantly recommend The Thermalright 120 Ultra. I originally spend 60bucks on a Thermaltake V1 wich got me to 3.2Ghz, But the Thermalright 120 ultra got me to 3.6Ghz and It looks like I could go further.

Also, I dont have any experience with gigabyte boards but I can say that I love my Asus P5k-e. Its a solid overclocker, and its mature, and its not expensive.
December 27, 2007 7:16:42 PM

Wireless, where did you get the extra fan adapter for the back of the cages?

Please respond!!! I'm getting some cooling upgrades and I'm wondering where to get that extra fan adapter
December 28, 2007 12:25:57 AM

I have a second Antec 900 that I used for another build that Im selling. I took it from that = ). But I do belive I've seen somewhere That you can buy them. Just google it.
December 28, 2007 1:10:38 AM

nice build wirelessfender!
December 28, 2007 1:47:16 AM

Congrats on the build. 3.6 is pretty high. How stable is it on air? I read that most people usually do 3.0 and any higher is just for benchmark scores.
December 28, 2007 2:17:38 AM

Nice cleanly built system! Nice job! I just little bit suprised of your PCMark score. I would expect it to be a little bit higher concidering your 3.6 overclock. I just built second system in 3 month and last 1 is:
- Coolermaster 690 case
- Q6600 Oced to 3.3Ghz
- 4 ggb G Skill PC800
- Gigabite p35.....DS4 mobo
- Noctua NF-U12F cpu cooler (switched Noctua fan on S-Flex)
- XFX GT8800 factory Oced
- PC Cooling 610 W PSU
- Asus Lightscribe and Pioneer DVD-RW
- Silverstone fan controler
- 2 S-Flex 12" on top of case and 1 on bottom side
- 2 LED 12" Antec fans on Low speed (from previos buit on Antec900) -1 in back and 1 in bottom front
- Saitek keyboard and Razer mouse
- XP Pro
After updating Nvidia driver PC score was 14156
System runs very quiet - can hardly hear it. Used Core Temp and SpeedFan at same time to control temps.
On idle temps 29-30C and under heavy load (under PCMark06 - CPU test) highest I recorded 48C
Ahh forgot to mention - CPU and cooler are both lapped :sol: 
Under Prime 95 temps never went above 45c. Best way to control temps-to put SpeedFan CPU temps on graghs
Either way your system looks great. Congrads!
December 28, 2007 3:47:01 AM

junglicious said:
Congrats on the build. 3.6 is pretty high. How stable is it on air? I read that most people usually do 3.0 and any higher is just for benchmark scores.



I do 3.6 on air and it's solid as a rock, I love it!
December 28, 2007 1:41:09 PM

cnumartyr said:
I do 3.6 on air and it's solid as a rock, I love it!


What he said :D  . And that is with a 12 hour Prime95 test. I could probably shoot for 3.8Ghz But I would have to Lapp the CPU and Heatsink. I thought about it, But havnt had time to do it yet.
December 28, 2007 1:48:10 PM

Quote:
- XFX GT8800 factory Oced


There is why your score is better, You have a 8800GT over my 3870. Just for information sake, What was your CPU score?

Here is the list of mine from 3dmark06:

2.4Ghz = 3796 3dmarks

2.8Ghz = 4347 3dmarks

3.2Ghz = 4897 3dmarks

3.6Ghz = 5397 3dmarks
December 28, 2007 3:19:11 PM

For cooling in the Antec case, do you think you would get better cooling by putting the TR120 horizontal and push the air out through the 200mm. Just a suggestion, you never know
December 28, 2007 4:24:52 PM

Just run PCMark06 again cuz didnt recorded CPU score last time. Its 5192 and temps maxed out at 45C.
Idle temp 31. Temps during tests 1- 37C, 2nd - 39C, 3rd - 45C (CPUtest), 4th - 38C and back to idle.
So I guess U r right its 8800GT makes the difference. I didnt push system further yet - dont have time now(too busy at work and I feel very comfortable with temps within this rig and just love how quiet it is). Btw I just recieved new VGA coller (Thermalright HR-03 GT) and Nexus 92mm silent fan. Im going to replace stock 8800GT cooler and then somewhere in Jan get a week off my work and will try to push this rig as hard as I can :bounce: 
But just for a sake of expiriment then I'll get it back to low noise / low temps set up.
December 28, 2007 8:51:24 PM

Silverion77 said:
For cooling in the Antec case, do you think you would get better cooling by putting the TR120 horizontal and push the air out through the 200mm. Just a suggestion, you never know


I honestly dont think it would make a difference.
December 28, 2007 8:55:44 PM

yeah, not with the fact that you have push-pull[Small space]pull.....thats allot of air....

My Zalman 9500 Is shooting out the top fan in my 900....
December 28, 2007 11:03:38 PM

wirelessfender, nice system.

Where did you get the two extra pins to hold the second fan to the Thermalright 120-Ultra Extreme?

I think it only comes with two, not four?
December 28, 2007 11:47:48 PM

Awesome job you installed great. Nice computer.
December 29, 2007 11:48:29 AM

Seraphic said:
wirelessfender, nice system.

Where did you get the two extra pins to hold the second fan to the Thermalright 120-Ultra Extreme?

I think it only comes with two, not four?


Those you can buy seprate. They are like 4 bucks or something.
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