I had them in my newegg cart this morning - yes 5 chips. I check the shipping several different ways - overnight was only $40. Alas even at $239 i figured they go like hot cakes. But i did not hit send????
Well first, I though 2.8-3.2ghz was no issue with the unlocked multiplier and full control bios. I was wrong a quick 30 min google search and i read some people believe these chips may not clock over 2.5ghz. With the 5 baby q's in my cart and just did not bite. I had been waiting almost 6 weeks since I heard about these. Based on the q6600 2.5ghz is just too slow assuming clock 4 clock equal or even slightly better from amd.
I really could not beleive how low the price was, as it turns out it was not low enough for me to get them. I figured i needed 5 to get a good one???
What I have found with Intel quad cores, even at 2.8ghz the quad is not nearly as good as low end dual core for most apps including gaming (ok gaming that's what i do make gaming systems) - I am excluding video encoding where the big gain in speed for quads has been seen from day one in tests.
At 3.2-3.4 the quad Q6600 works good and games like a nice dual core, so the amd chip needs 3.0-3.2ghz - min!
Even at $239 and the ability to run 4 hd 3870 (I am a hard core ati fan) I still have to stick to Intel and nvidia chip set SLI set ups. AMD WHERE IS MY $1000 3.4GHZ QUAD BLACK - BIG BLACK! dOUBLE b = db
I have been watching for phenom BLACK and really was going to build a prototype as soon as the black came out - but that google (AMD READ: WITH MY CART FULL) search convinced me this morning that amd still does not offer enough reason to switch from intel.
Stick with the 6400+ if want to run gaming systems on the quad crossfirex - it is really ashamed that amd could not save up enough good chips to sell a "real black". I guess its really a grey chip or greenie black - NOTE TO AMD: YOU NEED A 3GHZ CHIPS ASAP!
BY THE WAY AMD - I WILL PAY $500 FOR A CHIP THAT RUNS 3.2-3.4GHZ AND 3GHZ OUT OF THE BOX!
I really do not wish to pick (i will not) through and then only to have to sell the dogs even if its 30% or more rejects to get to 2.8ghz. AMD I am not buying 5 cpu's to get 1 3.2ghz chip! Not when i can get 4ghz from intel right now. Note: to amd forget it!
AMD (AMD READ THIS) please bin the chips and sell some good ones - i pay $800!
So even at $239 the "phenom black quad" or "pbq" no bargin! (say it like barbie que) its a baby q
Add your thoughts, other intel fan boys and neutrals - hard core amd too!
Well first, I though 2.8-3.2ghz was no issue with the unlocked multiplier and full control bios. I was wrong a quick 30 min google search and i read some people believe these chips may not clock over 2.5ghz. With the 5 baby q's in my cart and just did not bite. I had been waiting almost 6 weeks since I heard about these. Based on the q6600 2.5ghz is just too slow assuming clock 4 clock equal or even slightly better from amd.
I really could not beleive how low the price was, as it turns out it was not low enough for me to get them. I figured i needed 5 to get a good one???
What I have found with Intel quad cores, even at 2.8ghz the quad is not nearly as good as low end dual core for most apps including gaming (ok gaming that's what i do make gaming systems) - I am excluding video encoding where the big gain in speed for quads has been seen from day one in tests.
At 3.2-3.4 the quad Q6600 works good and games like a nice dual core, so the amd chip needs 3.0-3.2ghz - min!
Even at $239 and the ability to run 4 hd 3870 (I am a hard core ati fan) I still have to stick to Intel and nvidia chip set SLI set ups. AMD WHERE IS MY $1000 3.4GHZ QUAD BLACK - BIG BLACK! dOUBLE b = db
I have been watching for phenom BLACK and really was going to build a prototype as soon as the black came out - but that google (AMD READ: WITH MY CART FULL) search convinced me this morning that amd still does not offer enough reason to switch from intel.
Stick with the 6400+ if want to run gaming systems on the quad crossfirex - it is really ashamed that amd could not save up enough good chips to sell a "real black". I guess its really a grey chip or greenie black - NOTE TO AMD: YOU NEED A 3GHZ CHIPS ASAP!
BY THE WAY AMD - I WILL PAY $500 FOR A CHIP THAT RUNS 3.2-3.4GHZ AND 3GHZ OUT OF THE BOX!
I really do not wish to pick (i will not) through and then only to have to sell the dogs even if its 30% or more rejects to get to 2.8ghz. AMD I am not buying 5 cpu's to get 1 3.2ghz chip! Not when i can get 4ghz from intel right now. Note: to amd forget it!
AMD (AMD READ THIS) please bin the chips and sell some good ones - i pay $800!
So even at $239 the "phenom black quad" or "pbq" no bargin! (say it like barbie que) its a baby q
Add your thoughts, other intel fan boys and neutrals - hard core amd too!