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yomamafor1
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n°1781060
01-10-2008 at 02:36:11 AM

http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 404,00.asp

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AMD was eager to give us a look at their "firing on all cylinders" graphics roadmap at CES—they're on the verge of shipping lower-end Radeon HD 3000 series products and the Radeon HD 3870 X2 (the dual-chip card we've mentioned before). But none of that is really news, and the details are under wraps until they get closer to the products' launches.

How about this, though: Remember how the Phenom only shipped at a disappointing 2.2- and 2.3-GHz, with the Phenom 9700 and 9900 (2.4 and 2.6 GHz) promised for the first quarter of this year? Well, in what looks to be a non-stop string of disappointing news for AMD fans, these two chips have now been pushed back to second quarter.

AMD tells us the delay isn't due to manufacturing problems, but instead because their OEM vendors have requested a low-power version. So AMD will soon release a new model, the Phenom 9100E, running at a conservative 1.8 GHz and drawing at most 65W of power.

Obviously the company tried to put a positive spin on things, but we can't help but think that if they really could produce Phenoms at the right clock speeds in the right quantities, they would have no problem satisfying the markets for both the 2.4/2.6 GHz chips as well as a new 1.8 GHz model. One bit of good news: the "B3" stepping of the Phenom CPU, which fixes the much talked-about TLB errata, is back from the fabs and looking good. Also, the triple-core and dual-core chips appear to be on track.



Who wants to bet Phenom will be launched a year after Barcelona's launch?


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n°1781064
01-10-2008 at 02:41:46 AM

Nope, not taking that bet. I think they will successfully launch their 9700 and 9900 in Q2.

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n°1781067
01-10-2008 at 02:45:17 AM

pausert20 wrote :

Nope, not taking that bet. I think they will successfully launch their 9700 and 9900 in Q2.



Of what year?

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n°1781073
01-10-2008 at 03:08:19 AM

Not last year.


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n°1781095
01-10-2008 at 04:09:27 AM

turpit wrote :

Of what year?



Well, this year of course. :p


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n°1781101
01-10-2008 at 04:17:20 AM

Yep, power-saving cpus. We really need them.

I mean why bother with the high-end cpus? Oh wait, we have Intel for that. And the power-savings ones.

I bet it'll be pushed to Q3...at the earliest.


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n°1781103
01-10-2008 at 04:24:42 AM

Wake me up when it's 2008 on AMDs calendar :sleep:


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n°1781111
01-10-2008 at 04:44:09 AM

You'll be dead by then!


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n°1781115
01-10-2008 at 04:49:25 AM

all I want to see is B3. How much time could a bunch of engineers take to solve that kind of bug? it couldn't take forever, they solved it, now the B3 X3s and X2s are going to be on stores in the next few months -hopefully-.

I wonder if the low power version and the B3 could be used on the rest of non-phenom-ready mobos.
Also, how good can be the low power version at OC.
Hopefully we could see a multitasking test soon. Lets say Winrar+AVG scanning+3dmark06+lame or something like that, using a B3 and 4 DDR2 1066 modules.

Maybe after all, phenom sucks on everything I mentioned. I hope it has at least an atractive price...

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n°1781116
01-10-2008 at 04:51:40 AM

as i said when i was drunk off my ass on new years eve...to hell with 2008, lets just skip to 2009.


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n°1781122
01-10-2008 at 05:03:15 AM

A low power 1.8 GHz Quad. The answer to a question nobody asked.

I bet theres blood on the floor of AMD enginering. No other posible excuse.

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n°1781128
01-10-2008 at 05:17:39 AM

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A low power 1.8 GHz Quad. The answer to a question nobody asked.


Well, that would make it a perfect match for Microsoft's Home Server.

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n°1781129
01-10-2008 at 05:18:11 AM

rodney_ws wrote :

Well, that would make it a perfect match for Microsoft's Home Server.



Or Microsoft Bob. :bounce:

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n°1781131
01-10-2008 at 05:25:47 AM

OlSkoolChopper wrote :

Or Microsoft Bob. :bounce:



Ouch...thats hurts. >;o)

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n°1781136
01-10-2008 at 05:52:46 AM

asgallant wrote :

Ouch...thats hurts. >;o)



What? Did you just sit on Clippy? :lol:

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n°1781178
01-10-2008 at 11:25:58 AM

Hmmm... apparently, the reason for pushing back was still due to TLB errata.

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boar [...] d=25851279

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It was known already that the given rhythm versions with 2.4 and 2.6 GHz of Phenom were pushed back in the second quarter. We could confirm yesterday that the 9650 and 9550, version "débugguées" of first Phenom (see our article) are also pushed back in the second quarter. AMD indeed received its first chips using the stepping B3 (early silicon), the bug is still not corrected. A new "spin" is thus necessary, which can push back Phenom in May.


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n°1781179
01-10-2008 at 11:31:04 AM

thefumigator wrote :

all I want to see is B3. How much time could a bunch of engineers take to solve that kind of bug? it couldn't take forever, they solved it, now the B3 X3s and X2s are going to be on stores in the next few months -hopefully-.

I wonder if the low power version and the B3 could be used on the rest of non-phenom-ready mobos.
Also, how good can be the low power version at OC.
Hopefully we could see a multitasking test soon. Lets say Winrar+AVG scanning+3dmark06+lame or something like that, using a B3 and 4 DDR2 1066 modules.

Maybe after all, phenom sucks on everything I mentioned. I hope it has at least an atractive price...



Checked the (u.k) price yesterday, theres 20 quid between the phenom 2.3ghz and the q6600. www.scan.co.uk

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n°1781182
01-10-2008 at 12:18:04 PM

What OEM wants a 1.8 gigahertz 65 watt Phenom? All I want is a B3 stepping 65 watt 45nm Phenom running at 2.4 gigahertz, and I want it by March 31, 2008. That's as long as I'll wait for Phenom.

If worse comes to worse, I'll just upgrade to HD 3850's and won't even buy another dual core AMD that will only be a little bit faster than my X2 4600+. I can't see buying if they don't have what I'd expected them to have by now. Maybe the triple cores will be worth it, but I'm starting to have doubts.

I still won't buy Intel, as all I'd planned is to upgrade the processors on my ASUS 690G motherboards. Maybe I'll just wait for Swift in 2009? What a way for a company to treat a fan, and I've been an AMD fan ever since I ditched Netburst when Intel came out with their lousy Prescotts.


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n°1781183
01-10-2008 at 12:19:15 PM

Considering I'm am generally very negative about Phenom and I still am but there might be a positive to this.

Do I believe they can make faster chips?No!

But I am inclined to believe that oems want an EE version with slower clocks. Now if AMD can get oems to stick one of these in every low end pc they sell AMD can make a fortune. Especially if they can price it to compete with E2xxx and E4xxxx cpu's. The average consumer won't understand which is faster. They will see slightly slower clocked quad vs higher clocked dual. They will ask the shop assistant who will tell them the quad is better because he has no clue anyway. AMD can make lots of money to develop better high end cpu's. Or in its current case stay alive.

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01-10-2008 at 12:21:00 PM