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8800GT Sli'd Vs. 9800GTS - Question

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Hey guys hope you had a good christmas and news year etc, i was just in a bit of a debate with a friend over the question posted above. So i figured you're the know-it-all guys with the knowledge and power of all god combined lol which would be better (for gaming) in relation to Performance Vs Price.

 

PC Spec for arguments sake :)
E6600
650W Xtreme Stealth
2.5GB PC6400 5-5-5-15
P5N-E SLi 650i

 

Much love!
Bonse


Message edited by Bonse on 01-06-2008 at 04:33:51 PM
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To be honest its a bit too soon to tell. We really need more specs and benching on the 9800 series before we can tell but I recon it would be pretty close.

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Reply to nzxtlexa
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agreed^^
also remember that SLI doesnt always double the performance:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/foru [...] sfire-faqs

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Reply to Maziar

In terms of price/performance? Although too early to tell, my bet is on the 9800GTS.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

Could be a pretty expensive bet :kaola: but I guess price wise your probably right.

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Reply to nzxtlexa
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Well what i was thinking was buying a 88gt now for around 170 and then waiting for 98gts then the price of the other 88gt would be cheap as chips but yeah i know what you mean, i just wanna play cod4 in full graphics :( lol

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Bonse wrote :

Well what i was thinking was buying a 88gt now for around 170 and then waiting for 98gts then the price of the other 88gt would be cheap as chips but yeah i know what you mean, i just wanna play cod4 in full graphics :( lol


CoD4 isn't that demanding at all..im running 1680x1050 all HIGH w/ 4x FSAA..don't kill yourself waiting and buy an 8800gt now, and if you really NEED the other later on this year, maybe for a crysis style game, get another 8800gt. if you can wait (dont wait forever, thats where many go wrong, wasting alot of their time waiting for something. sure, it will be better, but you have to suffer until then, usually not worth it), then wait i suppose to see what comes this way, doesn't look like the new "9 series" will be much improvment over the 8 series from the "leaked specs".

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Reply to monst0r

From the sounds of it, the 9800 series sounds like a performance flop. I mean the 8800GTX was such an improvement over anything from last generation, but the 9800 series isn't really that much more of a performance. What I figure is, Nvidia knows it has the advantage in the GPU Market's performance tier. So they'll just keep releasing new cards that are a bit better than the old cards so people who bought those 8800GTX in SLI, will purchase the latest and greatest.

If all of these "leaked" specs are true, if the R700 yields strong results, it could be a decent blow to Nvida and bring ATI into full competition again. Either way, I'd be glad to see it, since when ATI released the 38xx series, all of Nvidia's prices were lowered a great deal to stay competitive. Just imagine a head to head bout. I think this will be great for the consumers, A.K.A us.

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Where are these leaks from? I mean the source after the actual "nvidia" leak? So you think i should get a 88gt now and then another one later if i actually need it?

 

I run CoD4 on ALL LOW and get 30-60fps with these spec;
E6600
650W Xtreme Stealth
2.5GB PC6400 5-5-5-15
P5N-E SLi 650i
8600GT


Message edited by Bonse on 01-07-2008 at 12:27:27 AM
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What resolution are you running it at man? I get about 90FPS, goes down to 50ish depending on the map. I play with all of the settings turned up, 2x AA, and AF filtering half way up. I also turn off shadows because it's easier to see people with them off, even though the shadows are still there but not as dark.

Here's my specs.
E6300 @3.2Ghz
430W Thermaltake PSU
2GB PC6400 5-5-5-15
EVGA 680i SLI Rev. A1
7900GS

I know your video card isn't as good as mine, but it's still not a bad video card, considering my friend plays with most settings up all the way @1024x768 on his 7600GS OC'd

BTW I play @720p (1280x720)

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oh yeah i play 1920x1200 on a 24" sexy beast.

 

When i change the reso down to smaller widescreens one's the fps drops to as little as 3 lol and im using HDMI in btw (DVI to HDMI)


Message edited by Bonse on 01-07-2008 at 12:44:10 AM
Reply to Bonse

That's a high resolution, tbh I'd get a GTS or wait till 9xxx series if you wanna play the games after Cod4 as well. I'm gonna enjoy my 21.6" with my HD2600XT lol.

 

edit: worst thing about getting a 21.6" is that you wonder why you didn't get the 22" for 30bucks more.


Message edited by Akifuddin on 01-07-2008 at 01:08:01 AM
Reply to Akifuddin

Evilonigiri wrote :

In terms of price/performance? Although too early to tell, my bet is on the 9800GTS.



Theres no doubt the 9 series will be quicker, but the question is efficency, will it be more like a 7800, or a FX5800 dust buster...

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Reply to apache_lives
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Is there even going to be a 9800GTS? seems kinda pointless considering the 9800 GX2 is basically just 2 G92 chips slapped together (8800GTS chips) and the 9800GTX will barely beat out an ULTRA 8800 from what it sounds like..... I think the 9800GTS would basically be the same power as a 8800GTS 512mb in that case, so why bother?

My vote is for the 8800GT SLI to beat out the 9800GTS and GTX since they aren't a real major advancement at all =\

Reply to gamebro

Do we even know if there will be 9800GTX? I maybe wrong but the only one we've seen any proof of due to "leaked" pics and specs is the 9800GX2...

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nzxtlexa wrote :

Do we even know if there will be 9800GTX? I maybe wrong but the only one we've seen any proof of due to "leaked" pics and specs is the 9800GX2...


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video [...] Cards.html

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Reply to kpo6969
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thats that %100 true ^^

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Reply to Maziar

O OK I guess I was wrong thanks for that link kpo6969 i hadn't seen that one yet.

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Reply to nzxtlexa

I've got a quad core Q6600 over clocked to 3.2 ghz on air and Sli'd 8800gt's, and it smokes everygame i've got. I play Unreal Tourn 3 and Crysis full tilt and all settings maxed, and plays them both smooth as hell. My Gt's are overclocked to 700/1000 using ntune, and my system is rock solid.

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Makes me wonder what ATI will hit back with. I know that the 3870x2 is coming up and should be a good performer, but I don't think it'll be able to compete with the 98** series. What do you guys think?

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Reply to T8RR8R

I agree ^^ I think the 9800GX2 will perform better than the 3870X2.

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nzxtlexa wrote :

I agree ^^ I think the 9800GX2 will perform better than the 3870X2.



That might not be the case...Of course the 8800 GT's are better overall compared to the 3870's...But from what I've seen, the ATI Crossfire setups scale better than Nvidia's SLI in most gaming titles. At least that's what I've seen so far.

Reply to Kamrooz
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Yeah, but you're adding SLI but with a NEW GPU. So disptite a new SLI it's also newer and better than the 8800GT in SLI.

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Reply to T8RR8R
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It's gonna end up being two 8800 GTS g92's...128 SP after all. The difference performance wise between the 8800 GT and GTS g92 is not that vast...

Personally..I think the biggest difference between the 8800 GTS g92 and the 8800 GTX/Ultra is the bus width. Afterall, the 8800 GT and GTS g92's offer VERY SIMILAR performance...considering how close they are...I think the 256 bit bus is limiting the ability of the card. The 8800 GTS g92 has a higher core clock, memory clock, and higher fill rate (in certain aspects) to a 8800 GTX...even to an ultra (except memory clock). The g92 is afterall a G80 shrink with some adjustments...I We'll just have to wait and see how everything unfolds.

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