Hi you all!
My Story...
I Just bought and assembled: So far it's working ok, but I'm told it's running too HOT.
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2GB Corsair DDR2 pc6400/800mhz
700x Toughpower Thermaltake 700w PSU
MSI P-35 Platinum MainBoard / Intel Chipset
Intel CoreDuo2 Quad Q6600 CPU (2.4)
Nvidia 8600GT 512MB / DDR2 GPU (Pci-ex16)
CM 690 Coolermaster Mid ATX Chassis (Case)
WINXP (Service Pack2)
Three120mm case fans (I think they are only connected to the PSU)
1)Raptor WD SataII 74 GB for apps and OS Hard drive
2)Western Digital SataII 500 GB Internal hard Drive for Storage
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OK.
Now after putting everything together and it seemingly is working well, does anyone have any idea what the average Intel Core Duo2 Quad (Q6600) 2.4CPU / Revision G0 / I have a MSI (Microstar P-35 Platinum Mobo) that came with DualCoreCenter Utility to monitor temp, fans,GPU, system temps.
I went to the BIOS and noticed that the CPU Temp was running at 61 c / 141 f !That sounds pretty high to me. The System Temp was 29 0 / 84 f. The TjMAX is @ 212F.
The Fan speed was 1775 RPMS. I do have a front case 80mm,and a rear 120mm fan, and a 120mm side case fan, ad they are working.
Is there website on Normal operating temperatures for the INTEL Processors? I went there but they pretty much say that's up to each individual, it's the liability I guess.
If anyone has the MSI P-35 Platinum Mainboard, and has installed the DuoCoreCenter utility, Do you pretty much set at default? I am not going to overclock.
I installed the DualCoreCenter Temp monitoring software from the MSI (Micro-Star) Mobo Utility Disc and I also downloaded CORETEMP (v0.96) software to see if it's mirrored or not.
frequency is 2402.43 MHZ,
Platform is LGA 775,
VID is 1.2375v
and the following temps:
Tj.Max - 212 F100C
CORE #O 142 F / 60C
CORE #1 138 F / 59C
CORE #2 126 F / 52C
CORE #3 124 F / 51C
INTEL CoreDuo2 Q6600 2.4 Kentsfield Quad
A few peeps told me that check to see if the Stock Intel Fan is seated..That the HSF or the CPU is not seated correctly and to remove and clean 91% alcohol and apply Arctic Silver5 thermal paste.
I looked at the leg pins and AhHa! One was loose, I tightened it up and now it's a few degrees cooler. Do I want to go with the coolest I can get so long as it does not go past the 212F MAX?
I let the beast cool overnight and upon startup, I checked the Coretemp and it read the following >
CORE # 0 > 136 F
CORE # 1 > 133 F
CORE # 2 > 120 F
CORE # 3 > 120 F
Well, I could remove the piece of crap Intel HSF,clean off the contacts,re-apply the thermal compound and see if that works...OR remove (throw away) and replace with a new 3rd party HSF that sits on top of the board like the Intel does, OR remove the MoBo to install the HSF brackets,and find a heavy duty HSF, the paste,and put together.
I wish there would be a dependable,not too heavy, and not real expensive HSF I could place on top w/o removing the Mobo...lots of cabling,wires, cards,etc. to deal with.hmy:
Can anyone tell me what the highest temp possible to run without causing damage to the CPU, and the GPU?
Hi and Thanks!
I did download the CORETEMP and will use the Celsius instead of F.. when talking about hardware. Now, another quandry..
If anyone has a MSI Platinum P-35 Mobo, and a Hyper TX2 HSF...any suggestions would help...
Everything is going to be O....K... ....I keep telling myself that.
I bought a Coolermaster HYPER TX2 HSF Because of extremely high temps from the Q6600 on a MSI P-35 Platinum Mobo, using the Stock intel fan, I decided to remove it and trash it.
I TOTALLY HATE THOSE DARN PUSH PINS!!!!!!
But, I resign the fact that I am Not a gamer,am Not going to overclock,and don't need a super-duper backstrap under the Mobo Cooler for the CPU....in other words,too lazy to remove all and put all back.
I dabbed the AS5 onto the cooler, followed the des(in)tructions and positioned the pins correctly,placed the cooler over the CPU,and as I noticed before, how was I going to use a flat screwdriver to tightened the pins on two of the sides,they have that annoying dispersement plastic sheild,which in in the dang way! I thought it would be easy just to push down the pins until they LOCK.
I think the Fan separates from the top,but with my luck, I'll snap it off and break something.
Sooooooooo, that's what I'm up to as of this point. trying to mount this bad boy. Another feature good or bad, is the fan is facing to the side and the picture shows the fan pointed towards the memory slots. I did however bought another 120mm top case fan for extra cooling.
The fan should be in line with the back or top exhaust fan. I find that installing pushpins with the mobo out of the case is the only easy way.
Do not use a screw driver near the motherboard to apply force to something... worst case you'll slip and destroy the motherboard. Believe me, I've seen it all too often. If you have to push down with a tool, use a blunt and soft object like the eraser on the end of a pencil.
The main problem in installing pushpins is user error. You need to make sure the push pins are all in the lock position before trying to push in else one of them will just pop off.
------------------------------3.8ghz Pentium D loading at 43C? What?
Reply to jbj190
You should've used CoreTemp to check the temperature with your stock cooler, but its fine that you switched to a better 3rd party cooler.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experience, nor knowledge regarding that cooler. All I know is, if you can't mount your cooler easily, with little force applied, you're doing something wrong. Be patient with it. You would rather take everything out, than break something in the process.
I did install CORETEMP and from what I hear,Do Not trust Mobo monitoring software because of possible exaggerations of temps.
About trying to get this HYPER TX2 to work..... it's something about beating a dead horse???? I guess.
....Also, I guess it was VERY presumptous to think I would need a screwdriver...DOH! to lock the push pins down? This HYPER TX2 has a plastic shield that covers completely over two of the push pins. The illustrations show the hyper CPU fan facing over the memory slots.
All I have to do is find the right sequence making sure the pins are unsprung and just push them onto the Board? I have tried twice already with the arctic5 thermal paste,and I'd hate to scratch the CPU up more than I should.
If this doesn't work, I guess it's time to take pictures (novice mobo builder) with all those connections and remove Mobo..Thanks!
Message edited by bozobytes on 01-13-2008 at 11:46:29 PM
Installation procedure &instructions. If you follow the installation instructions you will have a tough time with this on Intel boards since you have very poor access to the fasteners. Not in the instructions is that you can slide the fan & housing off the radiator for much easier installation then slide it back on. Pretty easy to install this way.
I'm sorry for going on about this, I know you all have lives other than helping me, and I could go to the geek squad....oh, jus kidding,but really, I never thought those push pins would be a royal pain in the B%TT!
Ok, This Bozo has had it.
Patience is wearing thin.
I tried to seat the Hyper TX2 Coolermaster HSF about a half dozen times and once I pushed down on two diagonal pins the other would pop out again, and I felt the board pushing down.
And if I have to use that much pressure for these pins..FAGITABOUT! …
I almost went through the small 3.5 Grm tube of Arctic5 Paste.
I should have listen, I know I should have, but this I wanted to be simple….
I mentioned about replacing my stock Intel with a third party universal push pin type HSF. For all your newbies trying this at home…Install to Mobo BEFORE installing your Motherboard…WHAT? I hear some of you saying..” I told you so”..well. your absolutely right on! I have learned my lesson.
So, now the task of removing everything off the board. Pci-E GPU, a few PCI cards, memory,all the Sata,and IDE cables, case led/power/audio leads,etc.,etc.,etc.,.
My so called friend who helped me thre away the static bag for the Mobo, and worse, the protective plastic covers for the Q6600 cpu and the Mainboard cover.
Now that I’m ready to do this, is there any pother precautions? Is installing the backplate and the cooler hard to do for first timers?
I was told that Arctic freezer 7 pro or the Thermalright Ultra XP 120 are good choices. I know this is not rocket science, but I don't want to build a rocket with what little I know.
Here is my Mobo..do you think there are HSF’s that will NOT fit this board? Most applications are for Intel Duo 2 Core will this include the Q6600 Quad
Arctic Cooling makes a great little cooler, their Freezer pro 7, that did a great job on my old B stepping furnace of a 6600. Kept me in the mid 40's idle and under 60 on Orthos.
Cheap, and easy to install pushpins, really did a good job.
And you should not use much paste, still half my tube left from over 12 installs.... Google the install, there is a vid with updated instructions on how the stuff is applied. More like a heavy fog than toothpaste.
lol idk how old this is but from what i see there from the temps, the heatsink isnt sitting flush on the chip the variation shouldnt be more than a few degrees and when u installing a heatsing u have to make sure its on properly. how i do it is push them in till u hear the click do all 4 then just give each one a solid little tug to see if u got it right and when u are pushing them in dont go around the heatsink go across it so push in one corner then push in the opposite corner then push in the other 2 that works for me anyways always make sure u use a good quality thermal paste i have the same q6600 and at idle im getting 28-30c and max is around 50c using an arctic cooler pro 7 heatsink and fan
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