Pentium D the best my mobo will support!

[bdan]

I know it's "old" technology, but I'm looking for a little advice on the Pentium D CPUs.
I have an ASUS P5LD2 deluxe motherboard currently running a Celeron D cpu. The "best" processors this mobo supports are the Pentium D 8XX and 9XX series.
Some of these processors are really cheap now; I can't afford a newer motherboard AND the newest CPU right now.
Any thoughts as to the best model? 9X0 vs 9X5s? (9X5 models: no Virtualization Technology) revisions? Overclockability w/ Asus software?

 

[Evilonigiri]

Do not buy a Pentium D. Ever.

Just stick with your old pc for a bit, then build a brand new one when you have enough money.

 

[Gravemind123]

No PentiumD is worth the money. You'd be better off to get a new motherboard and the lowest end Core2Duo, because it would still outperform any PentiumD you can buy.

 

[speedbird]

Do not buy a Pentium D. Ever.

Just stick with your old pc for a bit, then build a brand new one when you have enough money.

It's still a nice performance boast over the OP's celeron CPU. Not everyone can afford a new Motherboard and possibly a new windows license if it's an OEM edition.

 

[quantumsheep]

What is this big thing against Pentium D chips? Sure they run a bit hot and are quite power hungry, but they're still more than adequete for all of today's games. Infact if you overclock one of the D9** series you'll have a really quite fast gaming computer.

 

[Evilonigiri]

Right, the celeron is worse than the Pentium D.

However with the Core2duo and all, the Pentium D is simply not worth it. The E2160 overclocked, costing $85 can destroy the whole line of Pentium Ds, overclocked or not.

The argument is that you can overclock the Pentium D. The only problem is that you'll need a good after-market cooler since the Pentium Ds are really hot which would costs $50. If you get a E2160, costing $85, you can overclock to 3.2Ghz on the included stock cooling.

Save that $100+ and wait till you have enough to build a good solid $500 pc.

 

[jbj190]

Erm, I'm on 3.8ghz with a Pentium D920 I salvaged from a Dell using a 10 dollar cooler.

 

[Reynod]

But a cheap Pentium D is a quick fix - and will give you a big boost over a Celery.

Get an aftermarket cooler for it though.

Not everyone has a heap of cash ...

http://syndication.intel.com/DistributeModule.aspx?a=55&m=171&l=1&ppc_cid=GF1_0055017101

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/05/the_65_nm_pentium_d_900s_coming_out_party/

Now if someone could give him a bit of advice on which one's are still in stock and perhaps the best value ... then we would be helping him out ... ??

The 9 series D's are just a bit slower than an X2 and chew a bit more power - there is nothing wrong with either for a family PC and they are ok for gaming.

Just not as powerful as the core2 line.

 

[chaosgs]

The argument is that you can overclock the Pentium D. The only problem is that you'll need a good after-market cooler since the Pentium Ds are really hot which would costs $50. If you get a E2160, costing $85, you can overclock to 3.2Ghz on the included stock cooling.

FALSE!

I got mine to Overclock to 3.8 GHZ ON STOCK (was a pentium D 805 2.66GHZ)! I only kept it at 3.4 GHZ though. It may be hot but a stock cooler is more than enough.

Get the cheapest Pentium D you can find, Overclock it to 3.8 GHZ and you have something that is probably equal to a E2140 oc'ed to 2.4 GHZ.

I owned one so i know what im talking about, The pentium D isnt all that bad (I sure wish i had mine right now, would blow away this crappy AMD 2300 BE).

 

[random1283]

I've got one if you want it i dont want it Pentium D 925 3.00GHZ

 

[cnumartyr]

You realize of course, E2140s get far beyond 2.4 GHz....

 

[Evilonigiri]

Right it can hit 3.2Ghz on stock, which translate to probably nearly 5GHz Pentium D.

 

[Reynod]

Are we not talking about a quick fix fellas!!
A D805 then?

There is a Toms article here that may be of use to you.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/

Hope this helps.

Hey Best of Media dudes ... do I get a prize or something for linking another article or what ??

 

[Evilonigiri]

Well, it's ultimately his choice however I still firmly believe that buying one is a poor idea.

 

[yipsl]

I know it's "old" technology, but I'm looking for a little advice on the Pentium D CPUs.
I have an ASUS P5LD2 deluxe motherboard currently running a Celeron D cpu. The "best" processors this mobo supports are the Pentium D 8XX and 9XX series.
Some of these processors are really cheap now; I can't afford a newer motherboard AND the newest CPU right now.
Any thoughts as to the best model? 9X0 vs 9X5s? (9X5 models: no Virtualization Technology) revisions? Overclockability w/ Asus software?

Check the pcb revision, it might support higher with a bios flash:

LGA775 socket for Intel® Core™2 Extreme / Core™2 Duo / Pentium® Extreme / Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D Processors
Intel EM64T / EIST / Hyper-Threading Technology
New power design supports Intel next generation 04B/04A & 05B/05A CPU

*Only PCB R2.0(or higher) support Intel® Core™2 processor

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5LD2

Since you didn't mention the PCB revision, I'd thought I'd recommend it, just in case you have a board that does support a C2D "Pentium".

If you don't have the newest PCB revision, then Newegg has these Pentium D's:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010340343+50001157+1050716915&name=Pentium+D

Unless you give Pricewatch vendors, or Ebay a try, there aren't that many Pentium D processors available. You might be able to find a pulled processor (ie used) Pentium D for a better price than the boxed CPU's at Newegg.

In your situation, you have DDR2, so all you might need is a new motherboard and a new CPU (what's the speed of your DDR2?). Note that even a Pentium D 935 falls short of the cheaper Intel and AMD dual cores on Tom's CPU charts.

A friend gave me an ASUS P5RD1 board with a Pentium 4 630, and I considered getting a Pentium D for it just to have a backup PC in the bedroom (our 3 Athon X2's are in the living room). Well, it didn't even beat my wife's Athlon X2 3800+, let alone the X2 4600+'s that my son and I have.

So, my advice is really consider putting the $99 into a new CPU with a new motherboard. Maybe you'll have to spend $150 instead, but it will be worth it in the long run.

 

[vochtige]

i've got the same mobo
and if you have to believe asus you can use an E4600 c2d, but i don't recommand it you, because i tried it with an e4300 and it didn't work (flashed it as well) now my boot up is slower because of the newer cpu bios on an old cpu.
i wanted to upgrade as well, but don't do it! wast of money. if you search you can find a new mobo, ram (if you have 533mhz you are scruwed as me) and a new cpu for less than 300 usd.

 

[weskurtz81]

I wouldn't get one either.

My buddy had an 820.... POS. I considered putting an 805 system together, but what's the point? He had the 820 around 3.2ghz and it was unimpressive, it was still slow as hell, slower than a 2.6ghz AMD X2.

I wouldn't get a PD, I would save a little money and fix the system properly. Getting a PD is a waste, unless you can get it for close to nothing.

Of course, all sarcastic comments aside, it will be better than your celery. But, after playing with the D805, I have nothing good to say. I think you would be best served to not waste that cash on a PD, and save a couple hundred more for a new setup.

 

[vochtige]

hey dude

any dualcore amd set is better than that celeron, than even that pD

look at the charts, you'll see!

i'm saving my 1000 euro untill battlefield 3 comes out, hen i know what to get!

so, do you NEED it for one reason? else don't do it!

 

[Mandrake_]

If I were you I'd grab a Pentium E2140 and Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L board. All up that should set you back ~$175. You can use all your existing stuff, and you'll end up with a machine that blows away any Pentium D setup. You should be able to overclock that CPU to ~3GHz with the included Intel fan.

 

[vochtige]

even better!

 

[GraySenshi]

Well for legacy and for fun I'm getting a new motherboard for my pentium 640 once it's up and running I'll post my results