I know it's "old" technology, but I'm looking for a little advice on the Pentium D CPUs.
I have an ASUS P5LD2 deluxe motherboard currently running a Celeron D cpu. The "best" processors this mobo supports are the Pentium D 8XX and 9XX series.
Some of these processors are really cheap now; I can't afford a newer motherboard AND the newest CPU right now.
Any thoughts as to the best model? 9X0 vs 9X5s? (9X5 models: no Virtualization Technology) revisions? Overclockability w/ Asus software?
No PentiumD is worth the money. You'd be better off to get a new motherboard and the lowest end Core2Duo, because it would still outperform any PentiumD you can buy.
Just stick with your old pc for a bit, then build a brand new one when you have enough money.
It's still a nice performance boast over the OP's celeron CPU. Not everyone can afford a new Motherboard and possibly a new windows license if it's an OEM edition.
Message edited by speedbird on 01-13-2008 at 01:11:15 AM
What is this big thing against Pentium D chips? Sure they run a bit hot and are quite power hungry, but they're still more than adequete for all of today's games. Infact if you overclock one of the D9** series you'll have a really quite fast gaming computer.
However with the Core2duo and all, the Pentium D is simply not worth it. The E2160 overclocked, costing $85 can destroy the whole line of Pentium Ds, overclocked or not.
The argument is that you can overclock the Pentium D. The only problem is that you'll need a good after-market cooler since the Pentium Ds are really hot which would costs $50. If you get a E2160, costing $85, you can overclock to 3.2Ghz on the included stock cooling.
Save that $100+ and wait till you have enough to build a good solid $500 pc.
Now if someone could give him a bit of advice on which one's are still in stock and perhaps the best value ... then we would be helping him out ... ??
The 9 series D's are just a bit slower than an X2 and chew a bit more power - there is nothing wrong with either for a family PC and they are ok for gaming.
Just not as powerful as the core2 line.
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The argument is that you can overclock the Pentium D. The only problem is that you'll need a good after-market cooler since the Pentium Ds are really hot which would costs $50. If you get a E2160, costing $85, you can overclock to 3.2Ghz on the included stock cooling.
FALSE!
I got mine to Overclock to 3.8 GHZ ON STOCK (was a pentium D 805 2.66GHZ)! I only kept it at 3.4 GHZ though. It may be hot but a stock cooler is more than enough.
Get the cheapest Pentium D you can find, Overclock it to 3.8 GHZ and you have something that is probably equal to a E2140 oc'ed to 2.4 GHZ.
I owned one so i know what im talking about, The pentium D isnt all that bad (I sure wish i had mine right now, would blow away this crappy AMD 2300 BE).
Message edited by chaosgs on 01-13-2008 at 04:05:57 AM
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I know it's "old" technology, but I'm looking for a little advice on the Pentium D CPUs.
I have an ASUS P5LD2 deluxe motherboard currently running a Celeron D cpu. The "best" processors this mobo supports are the Pentium D 8XX and 9XX series.
Some of these processors are really cheap now; I can't afford a newer motherboard AND the newest CPU right now.
Any thoughts as to the best model? 9X0 vs 9X5s? (9X5 models: no Virtualization Technology) revisions? Overclockability w/ Asus software?
Check the pcb revision, it might support higher with a bios flash:
LGA775 socket for Intel® Core™2 Extreme / Core™2 Duo / Pentium® Extreme / Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D Processors
Intel EM64T / EIST / Hyper-Threading Technology
New power design supports Intel next generation 04B/04A & 05B/05A CPU
*Only PCB R2.0(or higher) support Intel® Core™2 processor
Unless you give Pricewatch vendors, or Ebay a try, there aren't that many Pentium D processors available. You might be able to find a pulled processor (ie used) Pentium D for a better price than the boxed CPU's at Newegg.
In your situation, you have DDR2, so all you might need is a new motherboard and a new CPU (what's the speed of your DDR2?). Note that even a Pentium D 935 falls short of the cheaper Intel and AMD dual cores on Tom's CPU charts.
A friend gave me an ASUS P5RD1 board with a Pentium 4 630, and I considered getting a Pentium D for it just to have a backup PC in the bedroom (our 3 Athon X2's are in the living room). Well, it didn't even beat my wife's Athlon X2 3800+, let alone the X2 4600+'s that my son and I have.
So, my advice is really consider putting the $99 into a new CPU with a new motherboard. Maybe you'll have to spend $150 instead, but it will be worth it in the long run.
Message edited by yipsl on 01-13-2008 at 12:53:37 PM
i've got the same mobo
and if you have to believe asus you can use an E4600 c2d, but i don't recommand it you, because i tried it with an e4300 and it didn't work (flashed it as well) now my boot up is slower because of the newer cpu bios on an old cpu.
i wanted to upgrade as well, but don't do it! wast of money. if you search you can find a new mobo, ram (if you have 533mhz you are scruwed as me) and a new cpu for less than 300 usd.
My buddy had an 820.... POS. I considered putting an 805 system together, but what's the point? He had the 820 around 3.2ghz and it was unimpressive, it was still slow as hell, slower than a 2.6ghz AMD X2.
I wouldn't get a PD, I would save a little money and fix the system properly. Getting a PD is a waste, unless you can get it for close to nothing.
Of course, all sarcastic comments aside, it will be better than your celery. But, after playing with the D805, I have nothing good to say. I think you would be best served to not waste that cash on a PD, and save a couple hundred more for a new setup.
Message edited by weskurtz81 on 01-13-2008 at 05:40:34 PM
If I were you I'd grab a Pentium E2140 and Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L board. All up that should set you back ~$175. You can use all your existing stuff, and you'll end up with a machine that blows away any Pentium D setup. You should be able to overclock that CPU to ~3GHz with the included Intel fan.
Message edited by Mandrake_ on 01-13-2008 at 07:11:08 PM
