Radeon 3870 X2 - 17414 3dmarks

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  1. That's amazing. Finally an ATI dual gpu card with some serious horsepower. How much will be the very important role to wether this card will be successful, or just another collectible.

    Photos:

    http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2794/001rq3.th.jpg

    http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8058/002as1.th.jpg

    http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9208/003vk7.th.jpg
    At resolution of 2560x1600, scoring 9,573 3DMark06! :bounce:

    http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1131/004fy4.th.jpg

    http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9743/005cs1.th.jpg
    17,414 3DMark06 at 1280x1024 ! :sol:

    Rumor price of $400 - $500. Serious come back here, I hope.

    That's unbelievable. Need more proof. :o
  2. Yep its the price and the driver that are the deal breaker though. If they both come out good well we have a nvidia ati catfight on our hands :)
  3. Man, that thing is longer than a whore's dream.
    Anyone know what the length is? I don't think it will fit my case.
  4. Whys a 'working lady's' dream long? lol

    oh i see, a large elongated dream lol
  5. I wonder what 2 of these puppies will score ? they are suppose to scale well. So maybe over 20k ?
  6. jitpublisher said:
    Man, that thing is longer than a whore's dream.
    Anyone know what the length is? I don't think it will fit my case.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!falling out my seat fun aaaaaaahhhhhh
  7. I don't know how long it is but it looks a lot longer than mine.
  8. chuckshissle said:
    I don't know how long it is but it looks a lot longer than mine.


    that doesnt make u any less of a man lol

    sorry only joking, couldnt resist.
  9. Notice the card has only one bridge connection. Probably limited only to two dual graphics card (2x2) crossfire.
  10. LOL. I'm talking about it's longer than my HD3870. Pervert.
  11. Its not longer than mine but its much faster.. is that a bad thing or a good thing... Oh I forget what we are talking about!
  12. Although I don't doubt this card has power, but anyone got actual game benchies? (because I still see the 2900XT is still top dog in 3dmark scores, but in actual games..)
  13. spoonboy said:


    Coompared to 8800GTX SLI two card solution it does well but still can't beat in 3Dmark06 but 3Dmark06 has been historically moe favorable to the 6XX architecture which has never tranlated into gaming performance. So great for 3Dmark06 benchmarkers but not the same for in game performance. It is still won't be as fast as the 9800GX2 which can beat a two card 8800GTX SLI. If the price is right and you have a huge as case, that might be a good deal.
  14. http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bitchinfast3ddz6.jpg

    Can't figure out the image thingie. Leaving link in.
  15. I wonder if it'd fit in my Antec 900? Here's to hoping! If the $400-$500 price point holds true over here in the UK it's going to be competing with the 8800GTS 512 (currently around £200-£250) and from the looks of things should soundly beat it.
  16. Quote:
    1680 x 1050 on very high
    first number ONE-card/ second CF

    Bioshock: 40FPS / 73FPS
    Blacksite Area 51: 50FPS / 90FPS
    Call of Duty 4 (4SSA/16AF): 30FPS / 49FPS
    Colin McRae Dirt (4AA): 29FPS / 61FPS
    Crysis (DX9): 30FPS / 44FPS
    Dark Messiah (4AA/16AF): 56FPS / 90FPS
    FEAR (4AA/16AF): 63FPS / 121FPS
    Jericho (4AA/16AF): 13FPS / 48FPS
    Medal of Honor Airbone: 44FPS / 89FPS
    Rainbow Six Vegas 60FPS / 120FPS
    STALKER (16AF): 35FPS / 69FPS
    The Witcher (2AA/16AF): 26FPS / 63FPS
    Timeshift: 41FPS / 81FPS
    Titan Quest (4AA): 70FPS / 93FPS


    Very good if the price is right, I sound like bob barker now..., But I game at 1920x1080 which is higher res than that. I'm still waiting for the next gen "real" 9 series models and I would suspect R7XX for ATI.
  17. stemnin said:
    Although I don't doubt this card has power, but anyone got actual game benchies? (because I still see the 2900XT is still top dog in 3dmark scores, but in actual games..)


    Sorry not yet the 3dmark score was all I could get hold of.
  18. Quote:
    1680 x 1050 on very high
    first number ONE-card/ second CF

    Bioshock: 40FPS / 73FPS
    Blacksite Area 51: 50FPS / 90FPS
    Call of Duty 4 (4SSA/16AF): 30FPS / 49FPS
    Colin McRae Dirt (4AA): 29FPS / 61FPS
    Crysis (DX9): 30FPS / 44FPS
    Dark Messiah (4AA/16AF): 56FPS / 90FPS
    FEAR (4AA/16AF): 63FPS / 121FPS
    Jericho (4AA/16AF): 13FPS / 48FPS
    Medal of Honor Airbone: 44FPS / 89FPS
    Rainbow Six Vegas 60FPS / 120FPS
    STALKER (16AF): 35FPS / 69FPS
    The Witcher (2AA/16AF): 26FPS / 63FPS
    Timeshift: 41FPS / 81FPS
    Titan Quest (4AA): 70FPS / 93FPS



    Sorry what cards are these? Your sig shows 7900gtx or something, are they the ones you mean. Sorry for the confusion.
  19. Where did you get that info from? or is that your own crossfired 3870 setup? sorry for being slow :(
  20. Quote:
    What to do if a Child or Adolescent lies?

    Tie him to the bumper of a car and make him run 15 mph for 3 hours? That's the way my parrents dealt with me.
  21. I wanna see how ATIs scaling methods fare with 3 and 4cards at lower resoltions.

    Thatll depend on who the enthusiasts go for.
  22. Quote:
    1680 x 1050 on very high
    first number ONE-card/ second CF

    Bioshock: 40FPS / 73FPS
    Blacksite Area 51: 50FPS / 90FPS
    Call of Duty 4 (4SSA/16AF): 30FPS / 49FPS
    Colin McRae Dirt (4AA): 29FPS / 61FPS
    Crysis (DX9): 30FPS / 44FPS
    Dark Messiah (4AA/16AF): 56FPS / 90FPS
    FEAR (4AA/16AF): 63FPS / 121FPS
    Jericho (4AA/16AF): 13FPS / 48FPS
    Medal of Honor Airbone: 44FPS / 89FPS
    Rainbow Six Vegas 60FPS / 120FPS
    STALKER (16AF): 35FPS / 69FPS
    The Witcher (2AA/16AF): 26FPS / 63FPS
    Timeshift: 41FPS / 81FPS
    Titan Quest (4AA): 70FPS / 93FPS


    So your friend has both a 3870 and a 3870x2, the top makes it seem like he has two 3870s? Liking the crossfire AA results.
  23. With a C2D and 8800GT 512, I'm, getting ONLY 3500 on 3DMark06 1.10(the free version with 6 different anims).
    does this suck? It looks about as bad as my old 7800GS !

    I noticed COD4 playing very slowly lately. only 40fps on 1024x768 (I normally played at 1900x1200 and Vista64). I reinstalled windows and new drivers, same thing.
    Strangely Crysis is doing about the same as I remember before, so I don't think the hardware/firmware is damaged.

    I'll try going back to XP.

    HELP !!!!
  24. If those numbers are true, it's more likely from two single 3870 cards crossfired and the assumption that the 3870x2 will perform the same. Better off just looking up 3870 crossfire reviews with benchies, no offense to your friend though :) I just don't think anyone has any of these yet, if they did it'd be the guys at Xtremesystems and they'd be OCing the bejesus out it.
  25. enewmen said:
    With a C2D and 8800GT 512, I'm, getting ONLY 3500 on 3DMark06 1.10(the free version with 6 different anims).
    does this suck? It looks about as bad as my old 7800GS !

    I noticed COD4 playing very slowly lately. only 40fps on 1024x768 (I normally played at 1900x1200 and Vista64). I reinstalled windows and new drivers, same thing.
    Strangely Crysis is doing about the same as I remember before, so I don't think the hardware/firmware is damaged.

    I'll try going back to XP.

    HELP !!!!


    Have you tried different nVidia drivers, like the beta or older versions? Get a driver removal tool to erase all nVidia files before reinstalling, just to make sure It almost seems like windows graphics drivers are in place. My system (signature) gets well over 10,000 3D Marks at 1024x768 w/ Vista 32 bit (I think it was around 13k).
  26. badgtx1969 said:
    Have you tried different nVidia drivers, like the beta or older versions? Get a driver removal tool to erase all nVidia files before reinstalling, just to make sure It almost seems like windows graphics drivers are in place. My system (signature) gets well over 10,000 3D Marks at 1024x768 w/ Vista 32 bit (I think it was around 13k).

    I've tried formatting the HD, reinstalling Vista64 and downloading new drivers. Same thing :(
    Next I'll go back to XP.

    Can there be a firmware problem in the motherboard or video card ? I'm guessing if there was a firmware problem, the video won't work at all !?!?
  27. has someone mentioned psu yet? what have you got? try a different power cable to the card. You should have a few if youve got a decent psu, my crappy tagan has 4 pci leads.
  28. I think he said it worked fine in XP, so the PSU probably wouldn't be an issue?

    Is your BIOS up-to-date on your mobo? Doubt the graphics BIOS is the problem. You have the newest chipset drivers installed as well?

    I would reseat the video card and the 6 pin power connector. Maybe you had a hardware failure (GPU,PSU,mobo)? What happens with the 7800GS in Vista?
  29. badgtx1969 said:
    I think he said it worked fine in XP, so the PSU probably wouldn't be an issue?

    Is your BIOS up-to-date on your mobo? Doubt the graphics BIOS is the problem. You have the newest chipset drivers installed as well?

    I would reseat the video card and the 6 pin power connector. Maybe you had a hardware failure (GPU,PSU,mobo)? What happens with the 7800GS in Vista?


    Thanks for the suggestions people.
    By the way, I never used the 7800GS with Vista (I got vista after I upgraded the card). I just remember that 3DMark06 score when I used the 7800GS with XP.
    yes, the mobo got the newest flash - 1226 on Asus P5B Deluxe. I also got the newest chipset drivers installed also.
    I have a 700w seasonic PSU (with 2 real PCIe plugs) with 1 E6400 and 1 8800GT

    The Vista Performance Index gives me 5.9 for graphics (5.7 total). I am not sure if the Vista Index is a real benchmark or 5.9 never was a good enough score.

    I will reseat the card and power connector. I don't see how this can make a card slower, but I'll do it anyway.
    I also installed XP, so I will check if that helps any.
  30. spoonboy said:
    has someone mentioned psu yet? what have you got? try a different power cable to the card. You should have a few if youve got a decent psu, my crappy tagan has 4 pci leads.

    Can a crappy power cable make the card slower? I expect the card to not work at all if there was a power cable problem.
    (sorry for going off the topic a little)
  31. well its kinda a last resort if all else fails and takes 2 minutes to test out. A card without adequate power might work up to a point, say enough to get windows to boot and do general non-gaming stuff but 3d needs more juice as the whole card lights up with activity so it wont work properly. Sorry thats clear as mud lol. You could try carefully reseating the card an trying a different power cable, but since youve got a 700w quality psu i think this whole avenue might be fruitless. You might have some oddball driver problem if not a problem with your card. Try what everyone else said and then report back if somethings still amiss.
  32. This from fudzilla:

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5079&Itemid=1

    "We've seen it and heard it from a few sources but it looks like two R680, Radeon 3870 X2 will score just over 20,000 in 3Dmark06.

    The cards are scheduled for introduction at the end of January, but the final driver for four chips will be later in Q1.

    It is quite good scaling and it looks like a great score for a non overclocked system. It will be interesting to see it performing in all games, but that is another matter all together. In most games it should be faster than Ultra, that is what we’ve been told."

    Not sure if this is really "news" but I didnt think that quad crossfire would be pushed back after january. Bugger.
  33. jitpublisher said:
    Man, that thing is longer than a whore's dream.
    Anyone know what the length is? I don't think it will fit my case.



    Given the current trends on current high end graphics card dimensions (GeForce 9800GTX and now HD3870 X2) I wonder whether or not a large graphics card suppord group should be started...................LGCSG.org anyone?
  34. Jericho (4AA/16AF): 13FPS / 48FPS
    Medal of Honor Airbone: 44FPS / 89FPS

    Incredible scalability... The first time I see CF (or SLI for that matter) = > 200%!
  35. Any Crysis DX10 benchies??
  36. spoonboy said:
    well its kinda a last resort if all else fails and takes 2 minutes to test out. A card without adequate power might work up to a point, say enough to get windows to boot and do general non-gaming stuff but 3d needs more juice as the whole card lights up with activity so it wont work properly. Sorry thats clear as mud lol. You could try carefully reseating the card an trying a different power cable, but since youve got a 700w quality psu i think this whole avenue might be fruitless. You might have some oddball driver problem if not a problem with your card. Try what everyone else said and then report back if somethings still amiss.

    I did everything people suggested and performance still sucks, even on Windows XP.
    So, I will replace my 8800GT with an older X1950XT and see how that works.
    If the x1950XT runs faster than the 8800GT, well then, time to upgrade again ! :pfff: and :D
    (back on topic)
    I did have an eye on the 3870 X2, maybe that is the next big thing until the r700/g100 ?
  37. Enewmen have you checked your bios to see if your CPU multiplier is off?
  38. warezme said:
    Coompared to 8800GTX SLI two card solution it does well but still can't beat in 3Dmark06 but 3Dmark06 has been historically moe favorable to the 6XX architecture which has never tranlated into gaming performance. So great for 3Dmark06 benchmarkers but not the same for in game performance. It is still won't be as fast as the 9800GX2 which can beat a two card 8800GTX SLI. If the price is right and you have a huge as case, that might be a good deal.

    May I recommend you read this review: http://en.expreview.com/?p=53

    Crossfire > SLI,

    In a two card configuration Crossfired Radeon HD 3870's will beat or match an SLI'd 8800GT configuration.

    Therefore 3870 X2 > 9800GX2

    PS. Crossfire Efficiency is far superior to SLI.
  39. So can we get the specs on this thing already? Usually we hear the specs before benchmarks.
  40. LAN_deRf_HA said:
    So can we get the specs on this thing already? Usually we hear the specs before benchmarks.

    did someone said specs ;) http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/p2942834.html
  41. San Pedro said:
    Enewmen have you checked your bios to see if your CPU multiplier is off?

    Ok, I'll check this next. I did notice the card running slow AFTER I flashed the Motherboard BIOS to the latest version.
    However, the CPU itself is running at full speed 8 * 400Mhz = 3200 Mhz.
    Thanks!

    Problems like this drive me crazy :fou:
  42. ro3dog said:

    On topic.
    Does the 3870 X2 have the same 'texture unit' problems as the 3870 and 2800 XT ? I didn't find this in the link.
    The 8800GT/GTSs have 3x the number of texture units for example.
    So, 3870 X2 has 16 * 2 texture units vs. the 8800 56 * 1 units?
  43. Ironnads said:
    Jericho (4AA/16AF): 13FPS / 48FPS
    Medal of Honor Airbone: 44FPS / 89FPS

    Incredible scalability... The first time I see CF (or SLI for that matter) = > 200%!


    I'm guessing these games like to eat up a lot of vram
  44. Gotta say those aren't the specs I was looking for... its just like 640 stream processors... no der. I was thinking stuff we don't already know, like core clocks, mem clock, mem size...
  45. Nice.
  46. I think the cooler makes them look longer then they really are for some reason. That second pic in the case makes it look about as long as my 8800GTS in my phenom rig.
  47. As i have predicted the reason there is not 9800GTX is ati has nvidia by the balls

    1) the 2 gpu on one pcb totally blows away nvidia dual pcb
    2) crossfire is more effiecent

    look for nvidia stock to fall all year

    2 look for dual 3870 x2 systems by alien, nw falcon and other the other noobies for $8000 ($4000 from me for better!)


    intel quad and 2 3870 x2 will run 25k and meet 3-way sli

    780i mobo's have a third lane dogged by pci-e1 1.1 speed
    sli is less effecient

    nvidia will complete with the new dual pcb card but ati will win!

    as predicted!


    ps amd bottom today at less then $5 get it why you can at $6
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