ok so i just sold my computer on craigslist for 650 dollars. the on in my signature. And i want to build a new one with that money what i have come up with is:
AMD 5000+ Black edition
Gigabyte 6100 ATX - minus $30 with black edition
Antec sonata 3 with 500w PSU
AC 64 freezer pro
1gb Pqi turbo memory CAS 4
HIS Hd3850 512mb with kick @$$ cooling
samsung DVD burner w/ lightscribe
Total is ~ 645 with shipping and before rebates.
Am i forgetting anything? anything you suggest i change?
Can you provide a link to your motherboard? I can't find a "Gigabyte 6100" anywhere. All I see is a Gigabyte board with a built in GeForce 6100 chip, but they are all mATX.
You may want to go with another board. Onboard gpu's are just a headache anyway. I'm thinking you may also want some Crucial Ballistix or Patriot Extreme. Both are pretty cheap and over clock extremely well. Pqi could be a good over clocking brand, but I've never really dealt with it, maybe someone else can comment on it's reliability.
Also, let me know how the AC 64 Freezer fits. I've been curious as to how well after market coolers first with the AM2 clip mechanism.
Message edited by rgeist554 on 01-03-2008 at 07:03:16 PM
I know you're using the HD3850, I'm just stating that your board has an onboard GPU. The GeForce 6100, you'll have to disable this before you install your 3850... Other than that, the board looks decent.
Well, personally, I'd downgrade to CAS 5 RAM for another gig of the stuff. I noticed a HUGE performance increase from 1 gig to 2 gigs, even with cheap RAM.
Yeah, you can get 2GB of RAM really cheap anyway. I got 2x1GB of Patriot Extreme DDR2 800 (4-4-4-12) for $36.00 after a $40.00 MIR. Also, they don't tell you this, but the RAM is only rated for those speeds, so you often won't find them set to 4-4-4-12 by default. It could be something like 4-5-5-18 or something.
Also, by getting 2GB, you can run them in dual-channel mode. So you'll get a little bit more performance out of them.
Do you have a monitor? Rodent? Keyboard? Speakers? Surge protector?
It will be maybe $7 more, but get a Retail rather than OEM optical drive in order to get all the software you'll need to use it. That includes a decoder for watching DVD movies.
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Are you overclocking? If your not I don't see why you care that much about the differents CASs of the RAM.
Also if your overclocking then why aren't you going with intel. It isn't to hard to find a e21x0 with a motherboard for under $120. With overclocking those things can truly be beasts.
I certainly hope he would be over clocking, since I'm assuming that's the reason he chose the 5000+ BE. Which is a pretty decent over-clocker.
As for the e21xx, they are pretty nice, but you do become limited by FSB at some point. Not to say they aren't fast, but that is certainly their limiting factor.
For a total of $632 before shipping (you could even get the CPU cooler at Egg to save a little more on shipping) but after two small rebates (RAM $25 PSU $10) (case is free shipping AND the Corsair PSU is free shipping, remember). This system is 10x better than the AMD you chose. You're welcome, haha.
*edit* Ground shipping on the e2160/80 and AC Freezer Pro from ewhiz is only $8.83.
Message edited by Noya on 01-03-2008 at 11:03:24 PM
Thanks Noya, but i'm trying to get it all from the same place, to save on shipping and all, seems like that build would total to be > $650. But i will consider the build.
The E21x0 is limited by a 800Mhz FSB. Just FYI in case you missed it. I really don't think it will matter either way you go, it's not like the performance difference is going to be night and day.
Yeah thats the thing about Intel systems, i don't understand what FSB is as opposed to HT link on AMD systems...which is why i went the AMD route because i don't want to get Intel and not know how to OC it lol.
You're building a new system. AMD's Athlon64 architecture is old (2003?), as you well know. A 3.0ghz Core 2 based chip will be faster in EVERY benchmark than a 3.0ghz AMD Athlon64 based chip = there is no reason to buy an AMD Athlon64 based chip.
Yeah thats the thing about Intel systems, i don't understand what FSB is as opposed to HT link on AMD systems...which is why i went the AMD route because i don't want to get Intel and not know how to OC it lol.
That is a lame excuse to not buy a Core 2 chip ROTFL You're a fanboy, admit it