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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:33:44 +0100, Moen
<h-news@operamail.dot.com.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:31:48 -0800, Zealot The Crazy Lui
><ktwilson9999@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Most of the world? I don't know anyone that uses dial-up...
>
>Maybe you are lucky and live in an area where it is actually possible
>to get broadband, and it's cheap enough for everyone to afford. Or
>everyone is rich enough, so it doesn't matter.
>
>> Insane folder nonsense? You mean organization?
>
>Rigid organization was nice when there were only a few files and you
>could keep it nice and tidy. But research shows that this approach is
>extremely limited. It simply does not scale well. The more data you
>get, the more folders you get, and it becomes increasingly difficult
>to find what you are looking for. Not only that, but data often
>belongs in more than one folder. So if you have a photo from your
>vacation in Brazil, do you put that in your photo folder or your
>Brazil folder? You could duplicate the data of course, but that's a
>hack - a workaround. It doesn't address the real problem: Lots of data
>is difficult to handle with folders, and data doesn't necessarily
>belong in just one place.
>
>This is why even Microsoft wants to move from folders to a search
>based file system some time in the future. It's easier to tell the OS
>that "I want all my holiday photos" and get everything delivered right
>away, than manually digging through lots of folders to find what you
>are looking for.
My gmail and Yahoo mail accounts have search features that return
nearly instantly. I don't really use POP3 e-mail anymore, because
web-based e-mail is just so much more convenient. You have access to
all of your e-mails no matter when or where they were received
wherever you are, it's fast, easy, lots of storage... and best of all,
it's free. The ads in gmail are incredibly non-intrusive (unlike the
Opera banner...), they show up as a few small lines of text off to the
side of the screen with a link. Folders and filters keep everything
organized and where it's supposed to go, though the majority of my
mail goes straight in the inbox and stays there, if I get one that
needs special attention or a recurring e-mail group/sender it gets
shipped off to a specific folder where I can notice it easier and get
to it faster. If I had no folders or filters, I would have to remember
to search manually every time I checked my e-mail for those specific
e-mails, and that's something I wouldn't remember to do.
>Because filters don't always apply to all mails. I should know,
>receiving hundreds of e-mails every day to my work account...
No, they don't, but what doesn't get filtered can just sit in the
inbox... is there something wrong with that?
>Indeed it is. Opera gets it right, in that it is based on searches,
>rather than folders. Sure, others are doing the same thing, but it's
>more of a patched folder based system with searches, rather than doing
>it right from the grund up.
Is there something inherently wrong with folders? They are simply a
way to organize things. You can search through them just as quickly as
if there were no folders, so I'm not sure what you have against them.
>Because built-in chat is something which makes sense, if you consider
>the fact that Opera is not just a browser, but also does
>communication?
Communication? I guess... it makes more sense to group a wimpy IRC
client with an app like Trillian than with a browser, IMO, but
whattever floats your boat.
>You don't have to wave around like a lunatic. You can hold down the
>left mouse button and click the right one to move forward or log in,
>for example. Easier than clicking the forward button or clicking
>"submit" on the page.
Generally, when logging in to something, you have to enter a login
name and password. In that case, it's much quicker and easier to
simply hit the enter key. (I don't trust my passwords to be remembered
by a browser or by any program or plugin) And what if there are
multiple "login" buttons on a page? How can it always choose the
correct one? (example: 6 months ago
http://games.swirve.com/earth had
4 separate login/password fields on the same page with 4 separate
login buttons. You would still have to click the login button that
went with the appropriate field. They've since changed the system, but
that's just a for instance.)
> I also find it easier to just drag down, right
>to close a page, than to move my hands to do Ctrl+W, or even Ctrl+F4.
Drag down, move the cursor up and click... what's the difference?
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