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January 17, 2008 9:47:49 AM

I'm having trouble deciding what sound card and speakers to buy,since i only want what's best.

For the card i'm between Asus Sonar and Auzentech x-fi prelude.I've read some reviews of Sonar being the complete package but its lack of EAX 5.1 is bothering me!

On the other hand as for speakers i'm Between logitch 5500 5.1 and Creative Gigaworks 7.1 .

I've heard some really mixed reviewes there for whats better and for what reason.As far as stats go logitech can go as far as 116db against 90db,and 5052 against 700w.

I want the louder,and as clear as possible sound,both for games,music and videos,so i'm really looking forward to a definite answer so i can proceed with purchasing them cause i can hardly wait.

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January 17, 2008 9:49:50 AM

What is your budget?
January 17, 2008 10:13:24 AM

no budget,i just want whats best.
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January 17, 2008 10:50:34 AM

I dont need links with prices,i just need someone to tell me whats best and why,so i can get it.

As for speakers which have the loudest clearer sound?
January 17, 2008 11:16:01 AM

The best would be ONKYO 7.1 Surround Sound Receiver. And if you have a high end computer, your motherboard already has HD Audio with digital output (either coaxial or optical). Hook it up to a 65 inch 1080p HDTV and you will be amazed by the quality of the picture and 1000W of sound. After considering all options that's what I eneded up with and I am glad I did.
January 17, 2008 11:47:17 AM

therock003 said:
I dont need links with prices,i just need someone to tell me whats best and why,so i can get it.

As for speakers which have the loudest clearer sound?



Thats exactly what I did, don't be snotty about it be grateful for me taking the time to suggest the best speakers and sound card. The reason I gave you the link was for the reviews that came with them, some people would have said thank you.
January 17, 2008 12:01:18 PM

systemlord said:
Then you should have stated that in your OP.




Thats exactly what I did, don't be snotty about it be grateful for me taking the time to suggest the best speakers and sound card.



Thats the problem with emails and texting, and forums. It's easy to take something out of context when you aren't talking directly with person face to face. I don't think the OP meant to be snotty, he's just saying he didn't intend to bother people with taking the time to hunt down links, just pop off the top of your head what you think is the best.

I agree with systemlord that this combination is high on the list for a really good sound setup.
It IS very hard to recommend sound setup's though. Sound is based almost entirely on personal preference.
What sounds great to one person, the next will think it's total crap. You really should hit the stores where they are set-up and listen to them for yourself.
January 17, 2008 12:14:49 PM

Of course i wasnt trying to be snotty or attack anyone,i didnt realise you meant for me to read the comments,i just stated that nobody has to bother with finding me offers,but instead provide me with his knowledge and experience of whats best.Sorry if it sounded that way,but please dont take it personal.

So let me take some time to process what you've provided me with so far and keep on with the discussion.

Thanx guys for helping me out.
January 17, 2008 12:25:59 PM

If you want the best do NOT buy those logitechs, they're very low end speakers. I personally don't understand these massive recommendation that the z5500s get.

This is me speaking from an Audiophile perspective but if you're wanting quality sound the least i recommend for a 2 channel system is a Cambridge Audio Azur 540A amplifier and a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers. That'll set you back around $800 with another $80 for cabling.

However i do recommend you get the x-fi xtremegamer, it is a great soundcard.
January 17, 2008 12:43:21 PM

jitpublisher is right hit the stores if you can. If I had no budget I would spend $5000 dollars on just the speakers and a five pack of Krell industies 250W mono block amps for $25,000 dollars, lol. These Krell's put out 250 watts into 2 ohms 100% of the time. :D 
January 17, 2008 12:49:41 PM

Ok, I own a Prelude and Logitech Z-5500's. I HAVE owned a X-Fi gamer. Prelude is by far the poop (that's good). The Z-5500's compared to gigaworks I can't say. I will say I am TOTALLY satisfied. The Gigaworks have a great reputation. The Logitechs will not dissapoint. If you are super serious about the absolute best sound on the planet then you can hang up either set of speakers. There is no way 250-500$ worth of speakers are gonna hang. The Prelude is as far you need to look for a sound card though. There is no reason to get a creative soundcard now, Prelude has the x-fi chip AND has WAY WAY better components on the board. If anyone argues this they should do the research, I certainly have before I purchased the card. For a pair of F*** the BS speakers you will certainlyl shell out at least 800 bucks. That is without a sub though. My buddy has recently purchased a 5 speaker set from Polk, they are RSI series. They are large enough to handle all but the lower freq's that a sub requires and give a full spectum. The best subs you can get are made by Velodyne. The best receiver I know of to recommend would be a yamaha 2600. The receiver will set you back about 1300 bucks. These are seriously ballz to the wall pieces. If you are gaming you really don't need all that to get an incredible experience. If you plan on running a theater room for you house and play games on then you can go the expensive route. The gigaworks or the Logitechs will do you fine, take your pic if you don't want to go through all the other.
January 17, 2008 2:06:31 PM

quantumsheep said:
If you want the best do NOT buy those logitechs, they're very low end speakers. I personally don't understand these massive recommendation that the z5500s get.

This is me speaking from an Audiophile perspective but if you're wanting quality sound the least i recommend for a 2 channel system is a Cambridge Audio Azur 540A amplifier and a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers. That'll set you back around $800 with another $80 for cabling.

However i do recommend you get the x-fi xtremegamer, it is a great soundcard.


This is an age-old discussion, trust me. The Logitech Z-5500's are adequate for personal surround. They're mid-to-high end for PC speakers but pretty close to trash by audiophile standards. ...those 3" drivers beam like lasers and have very little dispersion.

HOWEVER, most people looking at them don't care about that...or they'd not be looking at PC speakers. So, IMO, if one (probably someone kind of young with a limited budget) is looking for a $200-$300 speaker system, without searching for seperates, buying a receiver, etc., etc. then the Z-5500's might be okay. I have them, they're not great, but they're better than some other PC speakers.

...and the sub, as distorted as a sub in that price range can be...does seem to ...kill the bacteria on walls. It hits hard. ...accurate enough for enjoying a game, but ignore the THX certification of the Z-5500's.

Again, they're okay for personal surround but don't expect them (or any other "PC speaker system") to add great sound to a living room). ...IMO.
January 17, 2008 2:19:44 PM

SheizaSoSay said:
The best subs you can get are made by Velodyne. The best receiver I know of to recommend would be a yamaha 2600. The receiver will set you back about 1300 bucks. These are seriously ballz to the wall pieces.


I have to disagree with you about the "best subs you can get are made by Velodyne". They're decent enough subwoofers but they don't excel in any single area, in my opinion. Although for the price they're quite impressive. If you really want "ballz to the wall pieces" as you put it, you're going to want to get something like a Wilson Benesch Torus or something similar. Then again something like that is easily going to cost £3000.

If i was in the market for a high end reciever at the moment it would either have to be Onkyo or Pioneer, their high end stuff really is bloody good.

Really if i priced up a "dream" stereo system it would come out well over £100,000 (which is around $200,000).
January 17, 2008 2:29:26 PM

This may be a limit of my not reading all of everyone's posts, but is the OP really looking for information on a $1000+ audio solution to be used with his/her PC?

Is the OP really without a price limit? ...both questions are likely found in all the text of these concise posts.
January 17, 2008 3:47:32 PM

Wow you guys really stepped up.When i said no budget i didnt consider that you will come with these crazy dream prices!

Actually i'm not a sound expert or audiophile.I dont really know all that much about sound to be quite frank.All i want is a setup that i will buy once,and that i will then rest satisfied,without having to wait for the next best thing.

So when i said best i meant pc best,for all-around use,meaning a card and speakers,at about 600-650 euros.I said no budget cause i didnt think it will surpass it,let alone reach a 100k and maybe even 200k...

So i dont think i need recievers and onkyo parts or anything,just the best pci card and best PC-speakers.

So after this is said i'm glad to hear that SheizaSoSak is a prelude owner and is giving his opinion.I will gladly take your word,being better than the creative but i wiould also like to ask you if you can make a comparison between the asus sonar,because its rumored to be shiznit so far.

I'm still wondering about the speakers thoug.Creative is still 7.1 and 200w heavier,but we still have logitech fans vouching for the 5500.

IF the Prelude is no better than sonar then its sold for me,but i ould still like a final word between the Creative vs Logitech battle.
January 17, 2008 3:50:59 PM

...sounds like we could use some more info from the OP about what she/he is really looking for. She/he, does have a budget and letting the forum know what that budget is would likely get she/he some more useful information. I've used a bunch of Creative soundcards but thankfully there's a few good alternatives now. I'm especially liking the Asus Xonar (and heck, its even PCI-E) but I also hear good things about the Azun... Prelude too.

...not that you really go off-course with an X-Fi.

In my opinion, the OP would be better off with a $200-300 HT receiver/speakers set than with the Logitech Z-5500s/Creative Gigaworks...and that'd probably offer more utility too. Any BestBuy or Circuit City-type of shop could offer this. ...unless the OP doesn't want any full-sized components.

Logitech makes great mice and keyboards, they don't make great speakers, IMO.

EDIT: Ahhh, the OP has posted. ...wants "PC speakers". The Logitech Z-5500's are nifty in that you get speakers and a DD decoder for the price...so there's some utility there. ...and the sub is "Fun"...if not accurate. However, I've read in the forums that most consider the Creative Gigaworks to be better quality ("sounding") speakers. I have the Z-5500's and they're fine for watching a movie (at my computer) or listening to music (at my computer) in a smallish room. Their control-center/DD decoder is a nice piece of kit, considering the price and they look to be built reasonably well. They just don't have great-room-filling dispersion, but if not used in a living room, that shouldn't be an issue.
January 17, 2008 4:32:50 PM

Yep, you can get anything at any price range, so you may as well start out with a budget even if you're Bill-freakin-Gates :-/
January 17, 2008 4:47:48 PM

I understand that you want the best PC speakers and sound card while staying within a 600-650 euro budget, but for that much money I think the best option is, as Halcyon stated, to move search into the home audio sector. I don't know how things are where you're at but over here @ Circuit City they're selling a 7.1 Onkyo home theater system that puts out 130 watts RMS per channel with a 230 watt power sub woofer and 1080p video switching for under $500 us dollars so about 230 - 250 euros. Add a decent sound card x-fi, sonar whatever and a optical or digital coax cable and set. That's what have and my games, music, and movies have never sounded better. If you're explicitly trying to stay with just PC speakers then the logitech or the Gigaworks will be fine .
January 17, 2008 4:52:06 PM

First off the difference in sound cards is trivial at best. You can bounce specs back and forth but how many people can HEAR the SNR difference between 90dB and 100dB+? Even a cheap $100 stereo receiver and a decent set of bookshelves from a company in the range of Infinity or Polk will blow away Logitech speakers on ANY sound card. My old roommate had a 2.1 Logitech system that had an ~80W sub (about 2 years ago so I forget the model) running on an Audigy 2ZS and I converted him to "real" speakers with my 5.25" Infinity Alpha 10s, a 12W RMS/channel receiver from the late 60s, and an absolutely terrible onboard Realtek ALC655 (any of the HD codecs sound fine to me acoustically although they have more hiss than an Audigy class card when nothing is playing). Sure there wasn't as much bass on my setup but the bass sounded BETTER as did everything else.

-mcg
January 17, 2008 4:58:51 PM

ever thought about some really good surround sound HEADPHONES?
January 17, 2008 5:10:46 PM

Ok... this is laughable. I didn't realize that the Z5500 had a $350 MSRP. I looked up the specs (this is an abbreviation as the rest of the list is more of the same)
Quote:
Sub-woofer: 188 watts RMS (into 8 ohms, @ 100Hz, @ 10% THD)
Satellites: Left/Right: 62 watts RMS x 2 (into 8 ohms, @ 1khz, @ 10% THD)

10% THD at rated wattage! The sound card issue won't matter with these speakers... its almost as vain as worrying about the color of your monitor's bezel instead of the specs on the panel.

Since the budget was at least $350 plus whatever the sound card would cost I'd recommend at least a pair of Infinity Beta 20s, something similar from Polk, or something similar from a comparable speaker company.
http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/bookshelf-speakers/m/2866426/search=beta%2020/st=product/sv=title/sort_type=bottomline
Getting a cheap $100 stereo receiver is still an option if you need to maintain a budget, but a stereo receiver from Onkyo should be noticeably better. TX-8522 I think... but I really need to be going. Good luck!

-mcg
January 17, 2008 6:03:31 PM

Simple. Auzentech X-Fi Prelude, and a good home theather setup. Baring that, go with the Prelude and the Z-5500s. I'm a major music listener, gamer, and down right bass junkie, and the 55s never fail to amaze me. I upgraded from my X-Plosion to the Prelude and I absolutely love the sound quality that comes out of that system. Yes, I have it hooked up to both my Harman Kardon amp, as well as the Logitechs.

Oh yeah, MrCommunistGen Do you not realize that a 10DB difference is a little over 12 times louder? Most people don't realize that an increase of 3DB represents a doubleing of sound. That being said 3db would bring you to double your original SPL, 6db will be 4x (your original 3DB double) doubled, and then finally your 2nd doubling. LOL, have I lost anyone yet?
January 17, 2008 6:31:53 PM

Quote:
no budget,i just want whats best...So when i said best i meant pc best,for all-around use,meaning a card and speakers,at about 600-650 euros


I'm not trying to be rude either, but if someone asks about budget, don't lie and say there is none because you "want the best". $1200-1400USD can buy a lot of speaker, or none at all depending on what you are looking at.

Some have suggested it, I am to. Go the home theater route. Both PC speakers are good, I'm glad I don't have to chose between them. I love the sub on the z5500s, but the satellites on the gigaworks do sound better to me. (whats worse, when you crank the sub all the way up, its to powerful.) I have my PC hooked up to my HT surround receiver, and I never looked back. As good as PC speakers have got, they simply still aren't better then even mediocre HT speakers. If you want the best, and have that much money, then going the HT route shouldn't be difficult to do.

Go to your local store, and have them walk you through it. Listen to the different models they have, and see whats sounds best to you.
January 17, 2008 8:10:36 PM

Rhinofart said:


Oh yeah, MrCommunistGen Do you not realize that a 10DB difference is a little over 12 times louder? Most people don't realize that an increase of 3DB represents a doubleing of sound. That being said 3db would bring you to double your original SPL, 6db will be 4x (your original 3DB double) doubled, and then finally your 2nd doubling. LOL, have I lost anyone yet?


When talking about the soundcards/audio equipment the Db measurement doesn't measure loudness it's something to do with sensitivity, i think.
January 18, 2008 2:59:34 AM

quantumsheep said:
When talking about the soundcards/audio equipment the Db measurement doesn't measure loudness it's something to do with sensitivity, i think.

Thank you. I was talking about SNR not SPL. Its the ratio between signal and noise and has to do with clarity not volume. Aside from the decibel confusion, another popular misconception is that you need a LOT of wattage, and in most cases that is simply not true. Most home theater grade speakers have a sensitivity of around 90dB. I'm not 100% sure on what the complete unit of measure is, but sensitivity is rated at 1W. That means that most HT grade speakers will play at about 90dB with 1W of power. As long as you're using moderately clean amplification and aren't overdriving the amp, having gobs of extra wattage will buy you squat... like sticking a 1kW PSU in a stock Dell POS.

-mcg
January 18, 2008 4:23:56 AM

/\finally a decent analogy we can all understand /\ lol
January 18, 2008 5:43:39 AM

MrCommunistGen said:
Thank you. I was talking about SNR not SPL. Its the ratio between signal and noise and has to do with clarity not volume. Aside from the decibel confusion, another popular misconception is that you need a LOT of wattage, and in most cases that is simply not true. Most home theater grade speakers have a sensitivity of around 90dB. I'm not 100% sure on what the complete unit of measure is, but sensitivity is rated at 1W. That means that most HT grade speakers will play at about 90dB with 1W of power. As long as you're using moderately clean amplification and aren't overdriving the amp, having gobs of extra wattage will buy you squat... like sticking a 1kW PSU in a stock Dell POS.

-mcg


I agree that the amount of wattage needed is always over-exaggerated. However i wouldn't mind one of these:

http://www.audionet.de/main/komponenten/endverstaerker/...

They weigh 38kg each (So 76kg in total) and give a total wattage output of 400 WpC through 8ohms and 700 WpC through 4ohms. Now i just gotta find some speakers that need that much power! :D 
January 18, 2008 6:42:06 AM

Guys could you bee more specific about wattage?

For example logitech has 505 W rms and a 188w sub and gigaworks have 700w rms and 210 Watts RMS subwoofer.

What can someone make of that?

Also yet another sound card emerge,with even crazier price.I dont know if you've heard of it,but i hust did.ITs the x-fi elite pro http://www.soundblaster.com/products/product.asp?catego... with a price of 350 euros!

If i get a reciever will i need the best sound card possible?
January 18, 2008 12:10:37 PM

4745454b said:

I'm not trying to be rude either, but if someone asks about budget, don't lie and say there is none because you "want the best". $1200-1400USD can buy a lot of speaker, or none at all depending on what you are looking at.



$1200-1400USD - Thats a bit low budget. :pt1cable: 

Spend more and spend pounds - as it would cost you £3000USD for a loaf of bread in the U.K. :0


I wish I has the money to buy $1200-1400USD speakers :cry: 
January 18, 2008 12:49:46 PM

It really is about personal preference. I have a friend that has a 30 year old Kenwood 400 watt amp/reciever, and a set of equally old Genesis Phase II speakers, coupled with an Technics direct drive turntable. (Anybody remember these?) This setup is by far the most amazing crystal clear, and LOUDEST thing I have ever heard in a home system. When you crank this thing up, it will rattle the windows in the neighbors house! I think the old undigitized sound is far superior than anything you can buy today.
January 18, 2008 8:52:45 PM

quantumsheep said:
When talking about the soundcards/audio equipment the Db measurement doesn't measure loudness it's something to do with sensitivity, i think.



You got it Q sheep, its sensitivity.
January 18, 2008 8:58:03 PM

therock003 said:
Guys could you bee more specific about wattage?

For example logitech has 505 W rms and a 188w sub and gigaworks have 700w rms and 210 Watts RMS subwoofer.

If i get a reciever will i need the best sound card possible?



Theres such a thing as speaker efficency, so by having more watts doesn't mean louder cleaner sound. You need to quit looking at the spec's and numbers here or your head will explode. Theres two ways to be sure that you got the right speaker system: (1) you listen to them at the store, (2) you read as many reviews possible and make a desision based on the evidence. I can tell you all day whats best, but thats just me and not you.
January 19, 2008 6:43:04 AM

1784102,15,55379 said:
I have to disagree with you about the "best subs you can get are made by Velodyne". They're decent enough subwoofers but they don't excel in any single area, in my opinion. Although for the price they're quite impressive. If you really want "ballz to the wall pieces" as you put it, you're going to want to get something like a Wilson Benesch Torus or something similar. Then again something like that is easily going to cost £3000.

If i was in the market for a high end reciever at the moment it would either have to be Onkyo or Pioneer, their high end stuff really is bloody good.

Really if i priced up a "dream" stereo system it would come out well over £100,000 (which is around $200,000).[/quotemsg

I stand corrected, the Wilson Benesch Torus is the best, however last I checked I remember it being like 15,000 dollars. The same mag I read that said it was the best sub in the world, and most beautiful I think, also done the review for 5 or 6 receivers in the sub $2000 range. Competitors that I know were there were Yamaha and Denon. I think that Onkyo was there and one or two I can't remember. Yamaha placed first and second. I THINK Denon pulled third. Either way, a lot of factors come into picture and one most definately is Price. Here is a link with some receivers that are top picks for their price range: http://www.hometheatermag.com/buyersguides/avreceivers/

And Velodyne I believe does have the best subs aside from mega expensive subs. If they aren't the best by someone else's standard thats ok too.
January 20, 2008 10:36:14 AM

Guys i think i'm going to thin it further and not sticj with the PC speakers.

So i would need a little more info about recievers.

-Y are they need,and y cant the signal travel from the sound card to the speaker directly?

-If i get a reciever would i need a good sound card as well fo maximum performance?

-Y are they solda as av recievers?Y would someone really need for signal to travel from a video source to reciever and then to video output device (monitor or whatever)?I mean i get that a reciever somewhat amplifies sound,but how can that be done with video as well?

Ok so here on greece,i get the following options,what do you suggest?

http://www.plaisio.gr/productlist.aspx?catalog=19&categ...

http://www.e-shop.gr/search_per.phtml?category=HOME%20A...


December 29, 2008 10:08:25 PM

I have an ONKYO sr606 AV reciever, 2 AE309 floorstanding speaker, and AE307 center, Q acoustics 1000 sub and 2 monitor audio av bookshelf speakers for rears. the AE309 fronts are bi-amped off the front and rear surrond on the amp.
I was using the motherboards optical out (P5ND mother board) and have just ordered the sound card mentioned above (XFi fatal1ty pro thingy)
so will be able to comment as to if it make much difference - I play UT3 at the mo and listen to music on it.
Not sure how helpful this will be to you, but gives an idea of other setups I suppose.

Also I use an acer G24 24" screen with resolution 1920 x 1200 (using an IXOS HDMI lead) and have 2 x 9800 GT 1GB in sli mode (unrelated to topic I know :p )

Dan.
December 29, 2008 10:16:09 PM

Yea, Im waiting on a sweet deal on a Pioneer system. If Klipsch still made a 5.1 system, I might go in that direction, but as they only offer 2.1 PC speakers now, Im gonna have to go the HT route.
December 30, 2008 7:56:13 AM

First off, I hate Creative with a passion, mainly because myself and a lot of others continue to have issues with their products.

I recommend either an ASUS Xonar D2/D2X or the Razer Barracuda. The Xonar had much more options for Dolby playback, and is the more rounded package overall, but I give the Barracuda a nod when it comes to gaming. Both are great cards, and far more stable then Creatives offerings. Both only support EAX up to 2.0, but like Creative has to do on Vista OS's, have their own software implementation to accomplish the same effects.

As for speakers themselves, the others before me have given plently of good one's already, so I plead the fifth. :D 
January 10, 2009 4:30:04 PM

Forget SB. Look into the Auzentech Prelude.

If you're more of an audiophile than a gamer look into HT Omega series.
January 11, 2009 12:27:18 PM

Hi, just to follow up on my promise to update as to if my sound has improved or not.

I has, and dramatically. Even just listening to an mp3 file it is much clearer.

Dan.
January 25, 2009 4:23:23 PM

Some guys say logitach z-5500 has excellent bass performance but it's treble isn't good. İf your first goal about watching movies you could buy z-5500. The user which have auzen prelude are satisfy with their rig.
January 25, 2009 4:54:43 PM

Right - If quality is an issue then there is no argument, a separates system is definately the only way to go. period.

I run an Arcam Diva A90 a Xonar sound card and some Linn Ninka's = $8000 and i still want something better....

If money was no object, I'd run a Lexicon MC-1 processor with probably Linn Chakra Twin Poweramps in tri-amp with some M&K or B&W speakers, the total cost is gonna be in excess of $200,000 though.

The reason you need a receiver or amplifier (in answer to your question above) is that hifi speakers need more energy to function than can be provided by your sound card - speakers are either passive (cheap and crappy) or have an ac adapter (active) and run off an amplifier (typically built into the subwoofer on PC speaker systems).

Most hifi set-ups have passive (hifi) speakers running from an amplifier or receiver that amplifies a 'line-level' signal to one with enough energy to make the speakers make some noise - fundamentally the more power = more control over the speakers and less distortion - but this has to be high quality (read expensive). There is more of a trend in america especially for running monobloc (single channel) amplifiers and sitting one next to each speaker.

Some hifi setups have active speakers, the most common in the UK being meridian, who specialise in very high end home cinema and AV equipment, in theory you could connect some expensive active speakers directly to your soundcard.

I have to say, If you are going down such an expensive route, you really dont want to be listening to mp3's even fairly inexpensive hifi gear will expose the inherent flaws in cmpressed audio, and no matter how expensive your amp and speakers are, it wont make an mp3 sound any better than it is.
January 25, 2009 5:01:46 PM

In another reply to your question about receivers, they have several advantages over a normal stereo amplifier.

The first it that they offer decoding of digital sound, this varies from model to model, the most basic these days is dolby digital (5.1 surround, AC-3 etc) newer and better amplifiers decode newer and better surround sound, the latest being the blu-ray formats dolby tru-hd and DTS-HD master audio. The very best receivers also carry THX certification.

The second advantage is that you can say hook your TIVO, PC, Games console, blu-ray etc through the receiver then plug the output into your TV so when you switch the source on the receiver, the Video and Sound both change over.....

If you're unsure about any of the terms I've used check out wikipedia, or drop me a message.
March 16, 2009 7:15:11 PM

1784043,6,134637 said:
The best would be ONKYO 7.1 Surround Sound Receiver

Okay i'm also having trouble with finding a new sound card. After ions of plotting, thinking, searching ......waiting i finally have bought my lcd, video card and boxes. Nothing too fancy though. I hope you guys will not laugh: ati radeon 4850 (512 mb) Acer X233H (contrast 40.000 but too bad no hdmi) and hmmhm, mmhhh uhhuh logitech G 51 speakers. Yeah baby just bought them for 100 Euros. I already heard them, the bass and sound packs a wallet and blows up the hole ***. Anyway so now I just need a sound card. I was almost going to buy the x-fi prelude, luckily i didn't. I didn't even noticed that i had'nt had a free pci-e slot. When i read the box of my msi Am2 motherboard it said it has 1 pci-e x16, 1 pci-e x1 and 2 pci v 2.34 or something. But when i actually looked i saw one pci-e x16 and two identacilly slots wich i think are that pci-e v 2.34. So i can't even plug a pci-e x1 soundcard in it? I think the motherboard is called KVG9m-V somethin.

Okay but to get to the point i often hear you guys speak of setting up these yamaha or Onkyo boxes with a pc. And i don't understand much of that stuff. But the quality of wich you guys are speaking can't pass me this time unnoticed. So you guys are telling me that its possible to set up these large boxes from cars or whatever with my pc? I mean i heard it many times but it just sounds too fascinating. There is just one problem with me money is a big issue otherwise i didn't bought the G51. I heard someone here say that he has 8000$ system and still isn't satisfied. Well you can give it to me then, lol just kidding. But i'me already proud of my G51.

Anyway basically i'm looking for a sound card for 1st gaming, 2nd movies and 3d music. I dont know much about EAX but i know its for gaming. I know 5 is the highest, but is it bad if i have lets say EAX 2.0. I hear Bluegears b-Enspirer is also awsome for the money. but does he even gets close to auzentech prelude. Sorry for all my dumb questions. If someone could just answer a couple of them that would be great.

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March 16, 2009 7:37:06 PM

I'd take the Xonars over anything at this point. More dolby options then god, and keep in mind, even though they don't support EAX 3-5, can you tell me any game released in the past two years to list EAX as an option? Heck, the only two I know of are Battlefield 2 (EAX 2.0) and Splinter Cell.

Every sound card has a way to deal with 3d effects. EAX is a marketing ploy, nothing more.
July 6, 2009 8:12:28 PM

WOW!
This sure is a long train of replies. I'm in the same boat here. I'm a novice that enjoy's putting my own PC together. I'm putting an I7-950 CPU with an ASUS Rampage ii Extreme Motherboard. I'm going to also put in a SFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeo HD 4850 1GB Video Card.

All this with memory is costing about $1100 so far. I was wanting a 7.1 Sound Card with the best sound on a Bose PC Speaker system. I want to spend about $175 or less on the sound card.

What would you recommend???
July 7, 2009 1:48:17 AM

...next time, make a new thread.

What type of input does your Bose system use? The old analog jacks, or Optical Digital? If its optical, I'd go with the ASUS STX Essence in a heartbeat. If its analog, its a bit more open, with the Xonar DX and the Auzentech Forte being the two primary competitiors.
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