3850 vs 8600GT

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http://www23.tomshardware.com/grap [...] &chart=293

wtf, I thought 3850>>8600GT(BTW i tried some other benchies too, but 3850 failed there too).
I am confused. Someone wanna shed some light?? Everyone says 3850>>8600GT but the stats say something else. What is true?? :ouch:

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?LOL! is that true? and that 3850, i thought to buy one instead of my 8600GT.
i think it is because you picked an high resolution, and with 256 mb???? not so good, the 512 mb version will be stronger i hope.
but who want's to play that game enyway? flight simulator... :whistle:

Message edited by vochtige on 01-14-2008 at 04:46:30 PM

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Reply to vochtige

Agreed, but its quite taxing and you see 3850 logically should beat 8600GT but it gets blowed off. And this trend continous in other games too Please somebody help :s

Reply to wrazor

check out overall games fps as a comparison, you'll see that the 3850 beats the doodie out of the 8600gt. flight simulator must have been some strange fluke

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Reply to jeremyrailton

What help do you need?

Just because the 8600 beats the 3850 in some odd benchmark with outdated drivers doesn't mean anything. Use Google and look for a thorough review of the 3850. Read three or four of those reviews and then come back and post something more objective.

Reply to Slobogob

Probably you are right about being more investigative. But I should trust tomshardware, shouldnt I? Also its just not flight simulator but also many other games(did u guys check out??). So I am still confused about the benchies vs general opinions(if you dont wish to comment, you may as well refrain from posting slobgob).All I asked for, someone to say in flat straight words if bencheis are real deal or the 3850>>8600GT(probably by guys who used them personally or know much more). PEACE!!!

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Reply to wrazor

Benches are what most people use to find what they are looking for and THG,V-R give us the details to buy what we are looking for. Some people, mostly users that buy a model and cannot get the outcome as the pros do say things because the performance is not quite the same.
Remember one important thing with these benches the systems are using very little resources other than what is needed for benching so their real world benches are not what you and I would get with a full system setup, on the other side this does give us a good detailed picture as what is best for watt vs dollar,performance.

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Reply to gomerpile

Saying it straight, 3850 is much better than a 8600gt. Both overclock but you'll get alot more out of the 3850. The tomshardware guides are just pants. Like the man said, bizarre selection of games and outdated drivers, which makes a BIG difference to the Radeons. Consider that the end of the story.

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spoonboy wrote :

Saying it straight, 3850 is much better than a 8600gt. Both overclock but you'll get alot more out of the 3850. The tomshardware guides are just pants. Like the man said, bizarre selection of games and outdated drivers, which makes a BIG difference to the Radeons. Consider that the end of the story.

Not quite over yet ok At 1920x1200, the 3870 edges out the 2900XT by 1 fps, but trails the 8800GT by 6fps. At 2560x1600, the 8800GT and the 3870 performs similarly, with the HD3850 choking and churning out unplayable framerates, apparently choking with GOW's intensive textures, having just 256MB of GDDR3 memory.

so the next under the 8800gt is the 8600

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AM [...] 392-6.html

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To wrazor

Those flight sim games tend to be CPU intensive, look what happens when you choose to benchmark with a graphically chalenging game. http://www23.tomshardware.com/grap [...] chart=298.
Of course this highlights a problem with benchmarks which is unless you know these things you can get a very scewed view of the real worth of differant cards.
Always look at more than one site and always look at more than one benchmark.

Mactronix

Reply to mactronix

did not mean to go elsewhere for results I like to compare with others I think we all do that

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Reply to gomerpile

wrazor wrote :

ut I should trust tomshardware, shouldnt I?

No, under no circumstances trust in any benchmarks you can not compare to multiple other references. For that matter you shouldn't trust me or THG or any single poster. Most people are, for whatever reason, biased toward one or the other manufacturer (mostly Nvidia or AMD nowadays). If all you were looking for was a simple yes or no answer you might end up with some really bad GPU just because some joker told you that both 8600GT and HD 3850 are weak and you should buy 2400xt or something.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3151&p=1
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/591/1/
http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] re_hd3850/

The Anandtech review is quite conclusive especially the comparison to the 8600GTS.

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Reply to Slobogob

Based on the latest and greatest drivers the 3850 generally does substantially better than the 8600GT. Considering the pricepoints of both cards the 3850 is the one to buy.

Mind you if you're planning on running high resolution games with settings cranked (I.e. exceeding 1680x1050.) I wouldnt recommend any card with 256MB of ram. Get something with 512.

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yep I'd say thats a good buy, the bench proved that, have fun and see ya in the battlefield get your knife ready
thanks slob thats a great review

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Reply to gomerpile

Hehe thanks all, especially slobogob!! Anyway, all I conclude that I better go for 512MB 3850 now

Reply to wrazor

an other question, i own an 8600Gt, should i switch it to an 3850? 512mb one?

i'm still running single core, but want to milk my current system untill next year! planning to play the new battlefield 3

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Reply to vochtige

hay I have not seen anything about bf3 whaz up

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Reply to gomerpile

aah

rumors man, rumours (how do you write it) you can google it, but don't pick the bad company one! it's only for console.

Reply to vochtige

Slobogob wrote :

No, under no circumstances trust in any benchmarks you can not compare to multiple other references. For that matter you shouldn't trust me or THG or any single poster. Most people are, for whatever reason, biased toward one or the other manufacturer (mostly Nvidia or AMD nowadays). If all you were looking for was a simple yes or no answer you might end up with some really bad GPU just because some joker told you that both 8600GT and HD 3850 are weak and you should buy 2400xt or something.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3151&p=1
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/591/1/
http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] re_hd3850/

The Anandtech review is quite conclusive especially the comparison to the 8600GTS.

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gomerpile wrote :

Not quite over yet ok At 1920x1200, the 3870 edges out the 2900XT by 1 fps, but trails the 8800GT by 6fps. At 2560x1600, the 8800GT and the 3870 performs similarly, with the HD3850 choking and churning out unplayable framerates, apparently choking with GOW's intensive textures, having just 256MB of GDDR3 memory.

so the next under the 8800gt is the 8600

http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AM [...] 392-6.html

You mean u wud rather have an 8600gt than a 3850? that is pretty barmey. If your in the market for a cheapo graphics card you wont be gaming at/have a monitor that supports 1900x1200.

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