Recording digital and HD Channels

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Marshall Karp wrote:
> I have a Samsung HL-R5067w DLP HDTV with an Adelphia Cable Card. I bought a
> Pioneer DVD Recorder DVR-220-S. I have the cable running into the DVR and
> out into the TV. The DVR is able to display and record the analog stations,
> but not the digital and HD channels. I tried running the cable into the
> Samsung, and using the composite red, yellow, white cables from the TV to
> the DVR and the S video cable from the TV to the DVR, but there is no
> incoming picture signal. If I use component cables of green, red, and white
> (or whatever), will that work? If not, what will? In other words, how can
> I connect things to get the digital and HD channels to display and record in
> the DVR?

I suspect that you're out of luck. Your DVD recorder is not an HD device
- DVDs are SD only at this time. Furthermore, it isn't capable of
receiving the QAM broadcasts that your cable company uses for digital
channels. So there's no way for it to receive anything except the
regular analog channels on your cable.

Your Cablecard-equipped TV is fully capable of receiving QAM signals,
both SD and HD, both clear and encrypted. However, it doesn't appear
that there is any way to get those signals into your DVD recorder - the
Samsung set has no video outputs, only inputs.

If your set did have a video output, you would then be able to connect
that output to your DVD recorder. This would allow you to capture SD
(but not HD) video, assuming that it was not copy protected in the
original transmission. But the Samsung doesn't appear to have a video
output, so unless there is one on the cable card itself, you really can't
do what you're trying to do.

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On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 19:57:22 GMT, "Marshall Karp"
<marshallkarp@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have a Samsung HL-R5067w DLP HDTV with an Adelphia Cable Card. I bought a
>Pioneer DVD Recorder DVR-220-S. I have the cable running into the DVR and
>out into the TV. The DVR is able to display and record the analog stations,
>but not the digital and HD channels. I tried running the cable into the
>Samsung, and using the composite red, yellow, white cables from the TV to
>the DVR and the S video cable from the TV to the DVR, but there is no
>incoming picture signal. If I use component cables of green, red, and white
>(or whatever), will that work? If not, what will? In other words, how can
>I connect things to get the digital and HD channels to display and record in
>the DVR?
>
Per this page this set has only a composite vid and L/R analog audio
out, which you apparently tried:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_HL [...] l?tag=spec

So, the S-Vid and component vid connections on the set are all inputs.

Perhaps the cable card setup disables that output for copy protection
purposes, but maybe you can enable it somehow in the menu. Then, of
course, you'd be limited to recording only what is tuned in at the
time.

As others have pointed out, current DVD recorder technology is limited
to 480i NTSC format and is not high def. You can record a HD
broadcast in that format, but recording and subsequent playback isn't
high def.

For maximum flexibility and the ability to record one digital/HD
station while watching another, you'll have to consider getting one of
the cable co's high def boxes and hook up one of the outputs from the
box to the DVD recorder. The best setup is probably a cable co. DVR
and then use the DVD recorder to archive what you want to keep from
the hard drive.

Gary E
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