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Do I 'need' 4GB? Let me know what you think.

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February 12, 2008 7:25:01 PM

Hello. I am going to build a new comp. Getting Vista 64bit. Its going to be a budget AMD build. with a single 3850.

I will do light gaming.

At most at one time I would be running: internet, poker, music, and something else.

Do I REALLY need 4gb to have a smooth operation with the 64 bit? Or will 2 GB be plenty?
Will I take a performance hit during gaming?
During what computing situation is that extra 2GB going to help out the most?

Thanks.

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February 12, 2008 7:32:19 PM

For what you're doing will not make a big difference
February 13, 2008 2:28:16 PM

For me it made vista feel a lot smoother, for the price these days id definitely reccomend it. 2x2gb if you can.
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February 13, 2008 2:42:20 PM

Hatman said:
For me it made vista feel a lot smoother, for the price these days id definitely reccomend it. 2x2gb if you can.

I agree.
February 13, 2008 2:44:25 PM

It won't make your FPS while gaming skyrocket, but it won't hurt either. With the price of DDR2 ram, just go for it. You won't regret it.
February 13, 2008 2:46:38 PM

You will be able to reduce your Paging File (Virtual Memory). I have mine at 512 MB. No more swapping even after quitting a big FPS game.
February 13, 2008 2:47:15 PM

Hatman said:
For me it made vista feel a lot smoother, for the price these days id definitely reccomend it. 2x2gb if you can.


I also Agree, when I removed 2 sticks of Ram, I felt it a bit in general use even.

Vista64 = 3-4 GIGS Ram.
*** Also ram is so cheap ATM, might as well do it now and not worry about it until the machine dies.
February 13, 2008 2:50:18 PM

Else, why would you go with Vista 64? :o 

Memory limitation is the main reason why people go 64.
February 13, 2008 2:59:40 PM

vista64 has stricter (better) driver requierments?
February 13, 2008 4:13:10 PM

Thanks for the input, might as well pony up the extra few to get it. Better in the long run. Thanks again.
February 13, 2008 5:14:44 PM

LoneEagle said:
I agree.


I'll add my agreement as well. A 2x2 set of ram isn't all that much more expensive than a 2x1 set. Further, the 2x2 set gives you more flexability for the future.
February 13, 2008 5:56:30 PM

4GB is worth it - even on a 32-bit Windows XP system.

Even if you don't use all of your memory, it makes for a very large disk cache and you can disable your pagefile. Software and games that you launched yesterday, will launch much faster even if you've done an overnight virus scan or disk defrag since that time.

You can launch many applications, then launch applications you launched yesterday -- the application will load much faster because it's still in your disk cache 24 hours later. Even if you've ran a videogame or big apps such as Adobe Photoshop or Visual Studio since that time, or even an overnight virus scan. Even if you use up less than 1 gigabyte of memory in "Task Manager" - you still have a 2.5 gigabyte disk cache that provides massive application launch acceleration (and game acceleration too -- loading savegames in videogames is much faster, for example. A savegame that you saved earlier today, quit the game, did your homework or Visual Studio, then you load the game, the savegame still loads fast - because it's all still in your disk cache). Oh, and then you quit the game again, you load your Word/Photoshop/Visual Studio/etc and it still loads up pretty fast as if you never launched a videogame.

In fact, the general performance improvement of having 4GB DDR2 outweights spending the same amount of money on 2GB of DDR3, so if you're making a decision between DDR2 or DDR3 of the same price, get 4GB instead of 2GB even if you only get DDR2.

There is inefficiency on 32-bit systems where you can only access 3 or 3.5GB of memory. A 32-bit system can only access up to 4GB of memory (main + GPU memory), and so if your video card is 512MB, Windows XP 32-bit will only be able to access 3.5 gigabytes of your 4 gigabytes. But it's still worth it having 4GB in a current system, considering how cheap memory has become.
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February 13, 2008 7:48:50 PM

^Agreed. Make sure you have a x64 OS to gain full potential of the 4GB.
February 14, 2008 11:26:34 AM

For mdrejhon: But if you decide to disable your pagefile, you may have some problems with some application. If so, just reenable it and set it up to 512MB or if lower, until everything work fine.
February 14, 2008 12:34:46 PM

3 and a half weeks ago i built my new Q6600 system with 2gigs of OCZ memory. Today i ordered 4gigs (2x2gig) :D 

I upgraded from and AMD 4200+ x2 to the Q6600 and i have noticed that Intel chips seem to use more RAM or utilize RAM differently from AMD chips :whistle:  :ange: 

It may be the 4 cores, i don't know, but i eat through 2gig in no time. :pt1cable:  :heink: 

In any event you wont go wrong with 4gigs :bounce: 

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