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I'm looking to update my current system (6800 pentium 4 2.8 ghz and 1.5 gb of Ram) with a new AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+. I know that this CPU can do some serious work, but I'm afraid that my 6800 will bottleneck it Can I expect a 10-15 increase in FPS on games like Crysis? Better, can games like 2142 and Call of Duty 4 improve? What about world in conflict, can my average 20 fps on high settings spiral out to 30 fps? I need to know, because I want an 8800, but I can't afford it until May, and seeing people play Crysis on all high is making me quesy, after all, medium looks pretty too. :lol:

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Thank you in advance- and by the way, my memory is DDR2 400, I know I can use it with the Athlon- my Motherboard I'm looking at is a cheap JetWay JM26GT3-SVP AM2 NVIDIA NF6100-405 Micro ATX. Does this look good?

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Message edited by rockstone1 on 01-20-2008 at 08:40:49 PM
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1. the motherboard is socket 939
2. You'll need a whole new system and i suggest getting it ASAP as DDR2 prices are still low.

my recomendations:
Intel E4500 C2D
Gigabyte p35
2 gig ddr-2 800
Antec Sonata (comes with 500w Antec Earthwatts PSU)
8800GT
and whatever else you need.


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I don't have the money for it though, how much does that cost?
As for the socket, I realized that and edited it, had I bought it, I would be disappointed :P!


Message edited by rockstone1 on 01-20-2008 at 08:41:52 PM
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That'll come at around $650.


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Since you have a 939Socket, there's no way you can have DDR2. And there is no such thing as DDR2 400 ;)

I recommend taking away the "2".


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eep, my budget range is about $400 dollars, and I will need to wait till may (I'm a kid).

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Ok- does this look good: JetWay JM26GT3-SVP AM2 NVIDIA NF6100-405 Micro ATX for a motherboard that has is a AM2 socket? I wish I could use my current mobo, but it is an old pentium 4!

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rockstone1 wrote :

Ok- does this look good: JetWay JM26GT3-SVP AM2 NVIDIA NF6100-405 Micro ATX for a motherboard that has is a AM2 socket? I wish I could use my current mobo, but it is an old pentium 4!


So let me get this straight:

You have an old Intel pc.
Now you want an AMD pc.
You have DDR2 400(?) that you want to use in your new system.
You want to get this JetWay mobo, along with the 5000+ BE, therefore you want to OC.

Okay so first I'm sure there's no such thing as DDR2 400, could be wrong tho. Also the 5000+ BE doesn't include a heatsink, which you'll have to go buy. That motherboard seems okay if you're not going to OC.

That being said, you should probably go with an Intel solution. For about the same price, you can get a better pc.


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So for about 150$ I could get a better Mobo\CPU combination? I cant go above 160 right now. As for DDR2- All I know is that CPU Z tells me I have a DDR2 200 mhz, which wikipedia lists as a DDR 2 800, still DDR2 400 does exist according to wikipedia.

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rockstone1 wrote :

So for about 150$ I could get a better Mobo\CPU combination? I cant go above 160 right now. As for DDR2- All I know is that CPU Z tells me I have a DDR2 200 mhz, which wikipedia lists as a DDR 2 800, still DDR2 400 does exist according to wikipedia.


Oh okay, so it does exist. Just make sure it's DDR2.

Anyways, the Black Edition doesn't include a heatsink, which you will have to buy. A good one comes around $20+, but don't expect to OC it far.

Here's the $75 Intel e2140:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116037

A decent $70 mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128077

You can OC the cpu to 3.2GHz without much problem. I'm not too sure about the motherboard, but on first glance, it seems okay for light OCing. You should do some more research before buying.


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oh, ok, good, i could buy my own heat sink for $20s ,or [sarcasm]I can use my stock dell heatsink [/endsarcasm]

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rockstone1 wrote :

oh, ok, good, i could buy my own heat sink for $20s ,or [sarcasm]I can use my stock dell heatsink [/endsarcasm]


If you go with the E2140, you won't need to buy one. It comes with one.

Only the BE from AMD doesn't come with one.


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Ok, but one more question, will I get the performance increase I need? Can my 6800 work well until may with this? My 6800 is a PCI-e 16.

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Since you have a 939Socket, there's no way you can have DDR2. And there is no such thing as DDR2 400 ;)

I recommend taking away the "2".



Don't be mad at me, but there is such thing as DDR2 400


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yha, we know that, but I still dont know if my 6800 is effective...

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rockstone1 wrote :

Ok, but one more question, will I get the performance increase I need? Can my 6800 work well until may with this? My 6800 is a PCI-e 16.


You should see some boost in some game, however it wouldn't be much. The 6800 doesn't cut it any more. You'll need to upgrade the vidcard if you want that 15fps increase.


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torcida_kutina wrote :

Don't be mad at me, but there is such thing as DDR2 400


Yeah I was proven wrong earlier...my bad ;)


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great, so I'll get the 8800 in May

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One last question: is it wise to buy these parts in separate times? I dont want to wait, but I will if necessary.

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rockstone1 wrote :

One last question: is it wise to buy these parts in separate times? I dont want to wait, but I will if necessary.


That really depends. If it's free shipping, by all means, buy them separately. No, buy them separately.

If it has a shipping cost, get them at once. The shipping cost will decrease.


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