hey guys, my mate is working on building me a computer he seems to know what hes doing he just recentaly built his own. would love to hear what u guys think.

Case - thermaltake wing R5101
motherboards - gigabyte p35-d53r
Processor - Intel e6850 core 2 duo
Ram - 2 gig kit 800 kingston ddr2 (2x1)
1 gig 800 kingston
hard drive - WD sata 320Gb
Graphics - 512 8800 gts
Drivers - sata dvd-rw aopen 20x
keyboard & - logitech g15 & logitech G7
mouse
Cooling - 2x 120mm systems case fan & typhoon vx
monitor - 22' HDMI LCD proview sf22-uc

that was his first build then he decided to do another one.

Case - Antec sonata III
motherboards - gigabyte ga-x38-dq6
Processor - Intel conroe (quad core)
Ram - 2x KINGSTON hyper x KHX6400D2

hard drive - WD sata 500Gb
Graphics - 512 8800 gts
Drivers - sata dvd-rw aopen 20x
keyboard & - logitech g15 & logitech G7
mouse
Cooling - 2x 120mm systems case fan & typhoon vx
monitor - 22' HDMI LCD proview sf22-uc

I have been reading the topics an I know every one has a diffrent opinion on quad vs duo but what build here would u chose and are there problems?
I dont want to spend over 2000 and have a faulty computer
and feedback would be greatly appreciated thanks..

If I were him, I would wait for E8500 Wolfdale which can be overclocked to over 4Ghz on air. ON AIR. Don't do that with Conroe/Allendale/Kentsfield. Everything else is good on the 2nd list.

Faulty parts? Rarely. I think you mean lackluster computer.

My build is viewable under my name to the left, its 3 weeks old and similar to your second one. I went with a Q6600, p35 MB and 2 x 2 G Ram. The case and keyboard look very cool if you like blue, check them out. Otherwise your builds look good to me. Go quad and get a good PSU.

Thanks for the replies!
Antec III comes with a 500W PSU should be good enough?
yeah I think its a good idea to go with 2x 2 G Ram
will the 2x 120 fans be enough? also have the Typhoon heat sink fan.

Yes, the 500W Earthwatts will do for either of those builds.

I'm not familiar with the Thermaltake Wing. Does it come with a PSU? If
not, does that first build also include an Earthwatts 500W?

The first build (E6850) will be better than the other (Q6600, I assume) in most games. The quad will win in other kinds of applications, such as video encoding, programming, server stuff. Which build is best for you really depends on your needs. The quad will be perfectly good for games, you'd just get a few more fps with the E6850.

Thermaltake wing Rs 101 does come with a 430W Power Supply,
Does any one know when the Penryn Quads or nahelem
are available in Australia?
and if i get Gigabyte Ga-x38-dq6 it will Support Intel Core 2 multi-core and upcoming 45nm processors so it's easly possible to update processor in a few years or so.
what do you think?

Wait for the E8500, as others have said. If you go with Conroe, which I don't suggest, gets an E6750, not E6850.

how long would I have to wait for E8500

Intel is delaying some new cpus. The release of E8x00 should be in Jan. End of Jan would be latest, I think. Don't quote me on that.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219 [...] nprkp3.jpg

To convince you:

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/d [...] html#sect0

BTW, they DIDN'T overclock the cpu hard enough. The o/c could be higher.