I'm just after some advice on a new system really. My current setup is in desperate need of an upgrade. I use it mainly for surfing the web and watching movies, but I really would love a responsive computer and anything I could do to speed it up would be something I'd consider.
However I REALLY don't want to spend a lot, so I'm looking around for a processor I could overclock easily but won't cost a bomb. I was intrigued about the review of the AMD 5000+ Black Edition, which is in my price range. However, I'm not daft, and I don't want to get that if I could get something substantially better for just a few quid more. I know the E6550 can be had for just over £100 now and given its overclocking abilities maybe I should go for that? From what I've read the advantages of splashing out on a quad core setup won't really be apparent for a little while longer while developers continue to optimise their software.
Another thing... given I want the maximum system responsiveness what RAM should I go for, and would the AMD option limit me at all?
I'd also suggest an Arctic Silver Freezer Pro 7 for the Cooling.
$110+$80+$80+$25 = Board, 4 GB Ram, CPU. $295
Someone want to suggest a comparable AMD Setup?
I had a Blood Iron, it is insane at overclocking and has a ton of BIOS Options. I think it's the best budget board out there. (Only reason I moved to a P5K-E is better quad core support at high OCs. Blood Iron was fine for a 3.2 GHz Quad Core, but I wanted more).
Edit: You'd be happy with either, and if you went AMD you'd never notice because you've never had a Core 2 that was OC'd. I can't go back to AMD til they get their act together.. C2Q at 3.6 GHz is just too awesome.
Yeah, the E2160 is a good budget overclocker. 3GHz overclocks are pretty common. The X2 5000+ BE is not a bad choice for an AM2 upgrader but if you are building from scratch the E21x0 line is the best choice for the overclocker.
Well I must admit that's what I've done in the past but from all I've read about overclocking these days there don't seem to be any problems.
I'm not too worried about instability, if there's a problem I can just reduce the overclock. I am however worried about the lifetime of the components and if the processor / graphics card / memory / mobo were to have an unreasonable lifetime of, say, under 2 years then I'd reconsider. But as far as I am aware this is not the case.
Also I wouldn't overclock to the theoretical maximum. If the E2160 could be clocked at 3.2GHz then I'd probably clock it at 2.8GHz or thereabouts.
Has anybody said that he'll need a new motherboard going from an xp to a black edition x2? plus ram and maybe video card?
Sorry if anybody has im just skimming the posts.
If he'll need a new mobo then Id say go for a good quality intel board and a conro with 4mb cache as a starter. I got a p5b deluxe, and e6300 and zalman 9500, couldnt' be happier with that combo bought nov 2006, well yes i could lol
Yes I'll be upgrading the mobo and graphics card too, though the graphics card will be very budget as I don't need anything fancy.
I've been reading up further and have a couple more questions.
If I went for an E2xxx CPU would I be better going with the E2140 (which THG did a feature on) or spending just a few quid more and going for the E2180, on the basis that the different multiplier will put less strain on other components? Or maybe the E2160 as suggested would be a good compromise?
My other question is regarding memory over CPU. I could go for 2GB RAM and with the money I save get an E6550, with its 4MB L2 Cache. Or I could get 4GB RAM and an E2xxx. Opinions?
Dont get 4gb if your not even going to use it all. 1st you need a 64 bit OS, then you actually have to use it. If your not running apps/multiple apps that actually use up the memory then dont get it. There is no need for 4GB of ram if the user/machine never really uses more then 2GB
As far as which E21*0 series to go with, I would go with the 80 because of the higher multi.
Even a stock E2 series CPU will be more then enuff to browse the interent/watch movies and also just have a general snappy system. So will the AMD X2's
For what you want your system to do, 2Gb of ram sounds like plenty. The E2 series will do just fine stock or overclocked. Same goes for a X2. I would go with the intel myself. Just because they OC alot higher and can beat or hang with the fastest AMD dual core cpu once they are OC'd.