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8800GTX vs. 3870 X-Fire

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January 17, 2008 10:04:40 AM

Just wondered if anyone could enlighten me as to how those graphics cards would compare....
I'm not really interested in benchmarks, just interested to see how they compare in-game, FPS etc.
I have a GTX stock but could be tempted into moving to 3870's!
Basically in the UK, 2 factory OC'd 3870's would be the same cost as a mild-OC'd XFX GTX.
Opinions, or suggestions?
I'm not planning to change, but if there were good reasons to, I could be tempted! :D 
Thanks!

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January 17, 2008 10:12:55 AM

The 3870's CF'ed are better than one GTX but to be honest your gfx is plenty atm. I upgraded from a x1900xtx and have seen frame rates triple almost. Going from a GTX you may not even see much difference at all unless your doing 3DMark benches.

You could try o/c'ing your GTX to get that bit more out of it?
January 17, 2008 10:32:58 AM

Wait for the true monster when NVidia finely gives us the next true next generation or the 9800 series coming in Febuary.


By systemlord at 2008-01-04
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January 17, 2008 10:47:29 AM

9800 is not really next true generation, it's just two 8800gt chips in one card. They will have a tought time catching up to 3870x2 but next true generation will come out in november maybe or at the end of the year.
January 17, 2008 11:35:36 AM

We will see what the 3870 x2 does next week when the NDA are lifted and it become available
a b U Graphics card
January 17, 2008 11:40:20 AM

Two 3850's can match a GTX when crossfire is scaling well. But it doesn't always scale well and would have more issues too. Overall, I would say it(two 3870's) would trade blows with your 8800GTX. Sometimes beating it by aot, but other times being behind. IMO, keep your 8800GTX.
January 17, 2008 11:40:32 AM

wait up, no good games yet.
January 17, 2008 12:02:50 PM

met_quota said:
9800 is not really next true generation, it's just two 8800gt chips in one card. They will have a tought time catching up to 3870x2 but next true generation will come out in november maybe or at the end of the year.


Yup, I'm skipping this whole, die shrunk same old sh*t bull. I want the real next gen cards. Don't slap a new name on a couple of die shrunk old gen gpu's add a couple of little extra bobbles and claim its a new series. Thats bogus. :pfff: 
January 17, 2008 12:49:00 PM

met_quota said:
9800 is not really next true generation, it's just two 8800gt chips in one card. They will have a tought time catching up to 3870x2 but next true generation will come out in november maybe or at the end of the year.


Yes we all know Nvidia is milking the G80 by shrinking it and calling it G92 = 9800GTX, which is really an 8800GTX refresh. Nvidia better be coming out with the true generation in November!
January 17, 2008 1:51:42 PM

Expect Nvidia's real next gen card approximately one week before RV700 (or whatever it will be called) is released.
January 17, 2008 3:32:02 PM

met_quota said:
9800 is not really next true generation, it's just two 8800gt chips in one card. They will have a tought time catching up to 3870x2 but next true generation will come out in november maybe or at the end of the year.


nah i think its 2x8800gts 512mb's, hence its supposed to perform *and cost* more than an ultra.


January 17, 2008 4:22:17 PM

The simple answer is that you will certainly see a performance increase by upgrading to a pair of 3870s crossfired. However, it is not necessarily worth the added price of ditching the GPU that you already have. The increase in performance will not give you good price for performance ratios when your GPU is already very capable. I would wait until a newer GPU series such as the 9000 series or whatever ATi decides to come out with next.
January 17, 2008 4:40:15 PM

I kept hearing that the GTX is a good card...so in September '07 I bought one for use in Lost Planet. I'm not a big gamer. ...could just be my sucky rig (see signature) but I'm not really all that impressed with the 25-39fps I'm getting @ 1900x1200 in Lost Planet. Should I be impressed? ...again, perhaps my rig isn't up to the task...perhaps driving 2 monitors is having an affect on performance.

January 17, 2008 4:42:21 PM

The 3870 CF will easily beat the 8800GTX.
Like others said, better cards will be out in the next few months and no good games for a while.
January 17, 2008 5:13:07 PM

Halcyon:

Its definitely the dual monitors that is killing you. Running a single monitor will help a lot, I'm running a E4300 at 2.4gigahertz, 2 gigs of DDR2-800, a 7200rpm drive and an 8800GT (single), and I get 55-60 fps on Lost Planet with max settings at 1920x1200.

Dual monitors= lower performance. Think about it, your card has to render everything twice, which is, well, basically halfing performance (not really half, but it is a big drop). Dual monitors basically needs dual cards for best performance.
January 17, 2008 5:18:06 PM

BTw, is that a HDMI output I see on the 9800GX2?

:) 
January 17, 2008 5:18:44 PM

Now I want to run home and "turn off" the 21" and see how the GTX acts when it only has to drive the 30". ...obviously, I'm lazy or I'd have already tried that just out of tinkering. Thx for the tip.
a b U Graphics card
January 17, 2008 5:38:57 PM

OK This post seems a little off to me reason being he is saying 2 3870's cost what 1 GTX will cost and saying that the two 3870's will win some and loose some my question is why would you not get a second gtx which is a no contest win ??? at the same price. hmm and unless you doing uber rez gaming you don't need either....
January 17, 2008 6:28:59 PM

2 3870's cost less than the 8800 GTX in Canada and these are my 3DMark06 default results after switching from the GTX to a Crossfire setup under Vista Ultimate 64 bit:

12127 - 8800 GTX Nvidia driver version 163.71
11588 - 3870 Asus driver version 8.43
14339 - 3870 Crossfire Asus Driver version 8.43

One thing I noticed right away after switching over to the 3870's was the colour difference, soo much more vibrant, not dull and faded like the 8800 GTX.
a b U Graphics card
January 17, 2008 6:53:46 PM

maybe he has a crossfire motherboard...
January 19, 2008 10:54:11 PM

halcyon said:
I kept hearing that the GTX is a good card...so in September '07 I bought one for use in Lost Planet. I'm not a big gamer. ...could just be my sucky rig (see signature) but I'm not really all that impressed with the 25-39fps I'm getting @ 1900x1200 in Lost Planet. Should I be impressed? ...again, perhaps my rig isn't up to the task...perhaps driving 2 monitors is having an affect on performance.



Lost Planet is one of the most poorly optimized games for Windows XP/Vista. Its also a port from Xbox360, try and compare Oblivion with Lost Planet and tell me which one looks better. Lost Planet is a lost cause.
January 19, 2008 11:07:40 PM

Scaj said:
2 3870's cost less than the 8800 GTX in Canada and these are my 3DMark06 default results after switching from the GTX to a Crossfire setup under Vista Ultimate 64 bit:

12127 - 8800 GTX Nvidia driver version 163.71
11588 - 3870 Asus driver version 8.43
14339 - 3870 Crossfire Asus Driver version 8.43

One thing I noticed right away after switching over to the 3870's was the colour difference, soo much more vibrant, not dull and faded like the 8800 GTX.


The differences between color must have been the settings in driver control panel, my 8800GTX colors are just rich with color. I sure hope you are not comparing all three graphics cards using 3DMark06, this will not tell you in any way how they will perform in-game. One 8800GTX will knock the socks off one 3870, and thats a well known fact. Not every game is going to scale well with CF/SLI, in these cases your just going to have to live with one 3870.

Links to back it up.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=703&p=2

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/472/10/
January 22, 2008 11:15:24 AM

Thanks for all of the above suggestions!
I should point out, I game at 1280x1024 but I like everything to be smooth at high AA etc.
Bunging another GTX in wouldn't bother me either in £ (not just at the moment though.... ;) ) or heat etc.
I just wondered how crossfire compared to a GTX.
I do at the moment have an SLi board (although I sent it back as I thought it was faulty, but transpires it isn't....) so I could run SLi'd GTX's.
Perhaps later in the year if there are games to really challenge it!
Thanks!
January 23, 2008 3:12:35 AM

Quote:
I do at the moment have an SLi board (although I sent it back as I thought it was faulty, but transpires it isn't....) so I could run SLi'd GTX's.
Perhaps later in the year if there are games to really challenge it!
Thanks!




I dont understand this.

my rigg
(Intel Pentium -Core Duo 2.8ghz, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Abit motherboard, 300GB sata,8800gtx )

Crysis runs with 16-30 fps , ok fair enough

But I dunno why rb6 Vegas runs at 13- 40 fps....on a gtx
Nfs pro runs really **** too.

personally I had almost comparable performance on my x1950pro AGP card with duo core setup.

any suggestion why or how this is possible ?
January 24, 2008 12:39:08 AM

Install latest drivers and problem sloved!!

infact my Ram is bottleneck system!
January 24, 2008 1:43:32 AM

gOODNESS me 8800Gtx Sli is too fast ......loool
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