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July 10, 2008 1:24:21 AM

I need some help in selecting a fan for my CPU.

This is what I'm going with in a build, I won't really be overclocking but figured might as well add a decent fan.

ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45 Intel Motherboard
Using a Q6600 for CPU
Case Antec P182

I was like minutes from placing my order for all the stuff for my first build and had settled on this CPU fan.

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler

So as a final review started looking at the reviews on newegg before I placed my order and it looks like a fair number of folks had problem putting it in. Figure as a first time builder with no support (like no friends that know how to do it) that I could find a fan that was easier to install.

Also a general question, how much stuff do you put on the MOB before putting it in the case?
Like is it easier to put CPU,FAN and Mem in and than install it in case or do you risk more damage that way?

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July 10, 2008 1:27:41 AM

I have the ASUS P5Q Pro, Q6600 and that cooler. Others have had much more success than I have with the cooler but my experience has been disaterous. You might consider grabbing an AC7 pro along with that, test them both and keep whichever nets the best results, and return the other.
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July 10, 2008 1:33:50 AM

Thanks for the suggestion but I need something that's dummy proof for installation, that's equal to performance.
So if you have suggestion in that area..
July 10, 2008 1:36:57 AM

Since me and you have the same board I can help you out there as far as the Xigmatek goes. If you go with that cooler, put it in first, then attach the fan to it, then put in your RAM. It will be near impossible to put the fan on with the RAM in there, hell its near impossible to attach the fan regardless. Also that heatsink comes stock with pushpins which apparently do not work well with that heavy cooler, so I bought the mounting bracket, another $6. The AC7 has pushpins but they work very well.
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July 10, 2008 1:46:52 AM

Just buy the Q6600 retail and use the stock fan. It's $210 instead of the $195 OEM, but you don't need to buy an aftermarket cooler.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

OK, if you really want an aftermarket cooler, buy the Q6600 OEM and add an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
Save $15 on the CPU, spend $27 on the Freezer.

Edit: I'm a big fan of the Xigmatek, but if you don't overclock it's a complete waste of money. Seriously, don't bother.
July 10, 2008 1:50:46 AM

Yes yes......to aevm you listen.
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July 10, 2008 1:52:27 AM

Stregachess said:
Thanks for the suggestion but I need something that's dummy proof for installation, that's equal to performance.
So if you have suggestion in that area..


Applying a heatsink is never dummy proof.

But aevm is right about the Artic Cooling product. In fact, he's usually right :o 


July 10, 2008 1:52:52 AM

Intel's current stock fan is horrible. It's half the size of the stock fan that comes with the old P4, and runs hot even at stock. Pathetic. It's a bad idea to run 65nm quad off that stock fan. Why would anyone pay $15 for it?

Besides, retail q6600s are all high VID.
July 10, 2008 1:58:05 AM

My OEM Q6600 has a VID of 1.3, which is like...the highest I believe, close enough. Ive managed to sucessfully stress it for 24 hours at 1.275 at stock but never tried anything lower. Its at tthe stock 1.3 right now with my 3.0 OC, im preety positive it wont run at any decreased voltage.
July 10, 2008 2:01:55 AM

1.325 is the highest VID for q6600, 1.2125 is lowest. :p 
July 10, 2008 2:02:34 AM

I have to advise you to avoid the Zalman cnps9700 nt.
On my Q9450@3.4ghz it does not even lower my CPU one degree below the stock fans temps.
I was getting really good temps using the intel stock fan and heatsink with a well ducted case.
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July 10, 2008 2:07:17 AM

@OP:
AFAIK the VID is random, you're not guaranteed a better one or a worse one whether you buy OEM or retail. OK, maybe there is a conspiracy and I haven't heard about it yet :)  Anyway, it's not that important when you don't overclock.

She's right. Since OEM + AC7 Freezer is only $12 more, I'd pay it.
Here's a review:
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=1

Edit:
My VID according to CoreTemp is 1.275, and I got a Q6600 G0 OEM. I guess it's right in the middle of the range.

July 10, 2008 2:27:05 AM

Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme +Scythe S-Flex SFF21F(fan)+OCZ Freeze Extreme(TIM)
July 10, 2008 2:33:29 AM

aevm said:
@OP:
AFAIK the VID is random, you're not guaranteed a better one or a worse one whether you buy OEM or retail. OK, maybe there is a conspiracy and I haven't heard about it yet :)  Anyway, it's not that important when you don't overclock.

She's right. Since OEM + AC7 Freezer is only $12 more, I'd pay it.
Here's a review:
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=1

Edit:
My VID according to CoreTemp is 1.275, and I got a Q6600 G0 OEM. I guess it's right in the middle of the range.

Oh, there's a conspiracy! :sol: 

Intel is putting all their low binned chips into retail package q6600s so better chips can be use for higher models. So if you get retail, you're guaranteed to get high vid. With oem, you have a chance of getting low vid.
July 10, 2008 2:38:59 AM

The lowest VID is 1.25 and I think the highest was 1.325. Last I recall it was the 45nm processors that had the stock heatsink half the size not the 65nm.
July 10, 2008 2:42:33 AM

shadowthor said:
The lowest VID is 1.25 and I think the highest was 1.325. Last I recall it was the 45nm processors that had the stock heatsink half the size not the 65nm.

It's the same stock heatsink. :p 
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July 10, 2008 3:04:00 AM

dagger said:
Oh, there's a conspiracy! :sol: 

Intel is putting all their low binned chips into retail package q6600s so better chips can be use for higher models. So if you get retail, you're guaranteed to get high vid. With oem, you have a chance of getting low vid.


Damn! Good to know, thanks!

July 10, 2008 4:57:06 AM

aevm said:

OK, if you really want an aftermarket cooler, buy the Q6600 OEM and add an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134


Good suggestions on the OEM CPU and Arctic 7, I think I'll run with that.
Really stupid question but does that mean I need to buy paste stuff, or will it come with the Arctic? Figured with the Retail OEM CPU they toss that in?

Also another sort of stupid question.. but is there a good place on these forums to post my build before I run off and buy it? Which I'll hopefully be doing in the next 24 hours..
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July 10, 2008 5:26:00 AM

Yep, under homebuilt computers/new build.

You will probably need paste, Arctic Silver 5 or Ceramique, applied correctly. Do your research... by that I mean there are several good threads describing correct application, or go straight to ACs website and get the info there.
July 10, 2008 5:54:30 AM

HS: Thermalright (the best bar none)
Fan: Silverstone FM-121 (110 q.f.p.m. airflow and free speed control)
July 10, 2008 12:02:55 PM

I'm a bit confused does not the Case Antec P182 already come with fans, seems like the Sliverstone you mentioned means I'd be replacing something that comes with the Antec? Is that correct?
July 10, 2008 2:02:07 PM

Zolddude was susgesting getting that thermalright heatsink and putting that silverstone fan on there. Just go with your plan, OEM Q6600 and the AC7. Also since you dont plan to overclock you dont need to buy any paste, the AC7 Pro already has a slab of paste on it, you dont need AS5 or OCZ Freeze or anything like that for stock speed application, its overkill and a waste of money. Not to mention Newegg will jack the price of shipping up by a few bucks.

The simplicity and effectiveness of the AC7 cant be beat. There are no add on parts needed as its fully assembled, paste already on it, pushpins for quick application and no need to remove the motherboard, and only $27 bucks.
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July 10, 2008 2:06:11 PM

I've been told that the paste that comes with the AC7 is quite good, in fact.

Yes the P182 comes with fans. Give them a try first, replace them only if you find them noisy. AFAIK most people find the P182 quiet enough and don't replace the fans - but your ears might be really good, how do I know...
July 10, 2008 6:37:05 PM

You Want The Thermalight Ultra 120 Extreme With A 120mm Fan From Scthye
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July 10, 2008 7:04:35 PM

Coolio_alert said:
You Want The Thermalight Ultra 120 Extreme With A 120mm Fan From Scthye


1. Have you noticed the part about
Quote:
I won't really be overclocking
on line 2 of the original post? Why spend $80 or so on the best ever cooling solution if a $25 solution will do.

2. What's up with capitalizing every word in the message???

July 10, 2008 7:35:37 PM

Stregachess, i too am a beginner builder with no helpers to ask questions. But, i found something that will make up for that(at least for me). On youtube you can find videos explaining almost anything involving building the machine, from applying thermal paste to mountng the mobo, and probably the software stuff (although i havent seen any). the one youtube vid i saw with the mobo installed the mobo first and added everything else later. But it also said u could do the psu first then mobo, followed by pcu, etc...

hope this helps
July 15, 2008 8:49:57 PM

I've had a little drift in my plans... I'm not looking at Q9450 instead of a Q6600.
Also I'm told that the AC7 might be a bit harder to install for a complete newbie, someone suggested that I try the ZEROtherm ZEN FZ120.

As it would be easier to install does that make sense?
The Zen over the ACT?
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July 16, 2008 12:47:46 AM

LOL. The AC 7 Freezer is the easiest thing to install. Here's a quote from Anandtech's review:

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=4

Quote:
The fully assembled Freezer 7 Pro comes packaged in a protective styrene shell. Everything is pre-assembled. Even the thermal compound is pre-applied.


or this:

Quote:
Even the thermal compound comes pre-applied so mounting is incredibly easy. Push the four pins in the holes until they click and the cooler is mounted. The pushpins are not our favorites for secure mounting, but they seem very adequate for this lighter weight heatpipe tower. Installation is the easiest we have ever seen, which should be welcome news for mechanically challenged cooler installers.


I consider myself mechanically challenged all right, so I remembered this review :) 

I'm not familiar with the Zerotherm ZEN FZ120. I know their Nirvana model - very good, if a bit noisy.

Edit: whatever you buy, don't buy a Scythe Ninja. It's an excellent cooler, but installing it was definitely a challenge...

July 25, 2008 12:41:14 PM

1766443,30,139616 said:
LOL. The AC 7 Freezer is the easiest thing to install. Here's a quote from Anandtech's review:

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3210&p=4

Quote:
The fully assembled Freezer 7 Pro comes packaged in a protective styrene shell. Everything is pre-assembled. Even the thermal compound is pre-applied.


quotemsg]

Only problem, is I'm almost finished putting this together and found out that the AC 7 does not fit my board well at all. A big mess...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12074597

So for now I went with the stock fan, since I'm not doing overclocking maybe I'll be OK.
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July 25, 2008 2:51:56 PM

Ouch! I screwed up with my AC7 idea. Sorry, man. :sweat: 

July 28, 2008 7:53:16 PM

No problem, it's all a learning experience, just wanted to double back so someone else can learn from my experience!

I might be OK with the stock fan given that I'm not overclocking, if i move to OC later I can always change the fan...
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