Hello! Well I'm going to buy a Q6600 G0. But I read in some forums that there something called "batch" that influences in the OC's capacity for your CPU. I dont know very well what exactly the batch is, and I would really know how can I know the batch of the CPU that I will buy.
I read that there are a lot of batchs (L739B250, L739B770, L737B162, etc..).
Which ones are the best OCeable? In the web where I was thinking to buy the Q6600, it seems that the batch is TR80562Q6600 is this cool, or perhaps I should look for another one?
Thanks you very much guys if can help me to get this decision.
Yup, you get good and bad silicone where the bad tops out before the good. The margin fortunately isn't very big and can only be viewed from absolute maximum thresholds which you'll run into when you try and break the world record or something more benign. Same as above, G0 is the way to go and avoid the Bx stepping.
The batch is a mark of which fab and on what date the chip was made, and there are some chips that yield better OC'ing when you start tweaking voltages. Chip A from FAB-A(JunXX) can operate better at 0.5V above design voltage than Chip B from FAB-B(Sepxx) which tops out at 0.4V above design voltage, would be a crude example (don't use the values as something tangible).
What's your target overclock?? If it's 3.4~3.6, I'd strongly suggest not to waste time/effort/brain cycles thinking about where a given G0 chip was made.
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I would like to OC at 3.8-4 GHz if it allows me, for benchmarks.
But how can I know batch is the CPU?
In the web says: "P/N: TR80562Q6600" but I'm not sure if this is the batch. Any idea?
By the way, in this web the Q6600 are out-stock, and will get new ones tomorrow, so I supose this new Q6600 will be te last batch. Means that the last batch is one of the cool batchs perhaps?
So do you have any idea if the TR80562 FAB-T (I supose), is ok for oc'ing? I'm concerned since I have seen that some batchs OC better.
Hehe.. I'd be damned if I could decode batch code's so no, the t would not refer to FAB-T - I used a very daft example. Don't break your head over the batch, it's the least of your worries. You can OC a G0 Q6600 considerably before you start playing with Vcore to maximum values and at that point I think you really wasting your money with the threat of actually crippling the cpu. And to locate the 'ideal' batch will take some time and then you have to wonder just how much you actually gained? 0.04V vs 0.035V? It's not worth it in my eyes.
OC'ing starts off with FSB adjustments, then some RAM adjustments, then some more FSB with minor voltage changes and then again RAM. After that you're going into difficult territory.
Let's put this into perspective: a batch is not a incremental refinement of the process. It also does not come from one place and most important of all, it's not an exact science - it has margins where under it should be made.
So, you can have a batch in USA, one in India and one in Antartica (using random names here). Three batches, from three different places all doing what a Q6600 is suppose to do but when OC'ing one might go just a weee bit above the design max of the Vcore. Chances are that a certain batch which is good might be half a world away from you and then you hope that it's the best cos there alot of batches out there of which not every one is identified.
It becomes futile to trace this for the avg guy...
I would like to OC at 3.8-4 GHz if it allows me, for benchmarks.
But how can I know batch is the CPU?
In the web says: "P/N: TR80562Q6600" but I'm not sure if this is the batch. Any idea?
By the way, in this web the Q6600 are out-stock, and will get new ones tomorrow, so I supose this new Q6600 will be te last batch. Means that the last batch is one of the cool batchs perhaps?
Just get something with a pack date in 2008. Batch numbers are stuff like L737 and the like. The other thing is a part number.
Your max OC depends on more than just the chip. Most of the GOs will require water or phase cooling to get in the 3.8 - 4.0 ghz range with stability at 100% and safe temps.
Well I'm going to OC in a P35C-DS3R and with a Thermalright ultra 120 extreme, so I hope I dont have too much problems with temperatures/stability in a good OC, right?
Well I'm going to OC in a P35C-DS3R and with a Thermalright ultra 120 extreme, so I hope I dont have too much problems with temperatures/stability in a good OC, right?
cnumartyr one question. Do u have your quad 24/7 at 3.9 GHz? (Well I supose u don't). What FSB/multi do u have right now for 24/7? I supose u have air cool too.
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