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January 18, 2008 12:01:22 PM

Okey Dokey,

I am looking for a reasonably priced upgrade from an 8600GT... this was from my first build... of which I still have everything and still use it (I built it about 1 month ago)... Running AMD X2 5200+ (stock) on the cheapest AM2 board I could find (so If i broke it or something it was inexpensive to replace) a Winfast K8m890m2ma mATX, 2GB DDR2-667 Ram. I have an Antec EarthWatts 550W PSU...

Now I have never run Crysis on this PC, I have seen the game at a friends house and it looked awesome on his 8800GTX!!! Now I don't want to spend that much money ( I am 16 and still in school... In Australia so we are on holidays atm).

I was wondering what you guys thought of the 8800GTS 320MB?

Will eventually be upgrading to a Core 2 system...

Does anyone have this card? (The one I would be purchasing is the Sparkle 8800GTS)

Any and all input would be much appreciated...

atiuankoko

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January 18, 2008 12:33:42 PM

what resolution will you be playing at?
January 18, 2008 1:13:52 PM

All other things being equal the 8800 GTS 512MB is a faster card.
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January 18, 2008 2:24:00 PM

dont go for the GTS, it is just not the best one for performance/value ratio. get the 8800GT.
January 18, 2008 2:33:07 PM

I recommend the GT. Might want to google cooling issues. I believe many have a new reference cooler that helps, but fan speed often needs to be increased. The GTS does have a superior dual slot cooler with roughly 10-12% better performance overall. The GT performs well in Crysis for me at 1680x1050 on high settings with no AA or AF obviously. 34FPS avg. on the built in benchmark. Here is the Tom's review.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_8800_gt/...
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January 18, 2008 2:43:00 PM

The 320MB GTS is a decent Quiet card and priced right it's not a bad option. But, it falls way behind the newer 8800GT 512MB. Looking at prices in the USA, we can get the 320MB GTS for $200 and the 512MB GT for about $250 making the GT better for the money. I have both and will tell you the 8800GT performs much better at 1680x1050, but it has a much louder/hotter/worse cooling solution.

Take a look and see how all the GF8's stack up in crysis. As you can see, the 320MB GTS is far above your card, but trailing far behind the 8800GT, GTS 512MB, GTX, and Ultra.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=710&p=2

But that said, it is a big upgrade form your card, so if by you it is in your price range but the 8800GT is not....then sure go for it. Also, if you want a quiet card it is a good option.
January 18, 2008 4:23:25 PM

pauldh said:
The 320MB GTS is a decent Quiet card and priced right it's not a bad option. But, it falls way behind the newer 8800GT 512MB. Looking at prices in the USA, we can get the 320MB GTS for $200 and the 512MB GT for about $250 making the GT better for the money. I have both and will tell you the 8800GT performs much better at 1680x1050, but it has a much louder/hotter/worse cooling solution.

Take a look and see how all the GF8's stack up in crysis. As you can see, the 320MB GTS is far above your card, but trailing far behind the 8800GT, GTS 512MB, GTX, and Ultra.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=710&p=2

But that said, it is a big upgrade form your card, so if by you it is in your price range but the 8800GT is not....then sure go for it. Also, if you want a quiet card it is a good option.



At 200 bucks, the GTS 320mb is a nice upgrade from the 8600GT, but it is not really a Crysis card in my eyes. Obviously, it could play it at medium settings, but if the OP is looking for the experience his friend had with the GTX, he needs to go with the GT 512mb or GTS 512mb (or GTX for twice the price :non:  )
January 18, 2008 5:01:38 PM

^ agreed. i guess the GT is the best solution for this moment.
January 18, 2008 5:55:19 PM

night_wolf_in said:
^ agreed. i guess the GT is the best solution for this moment.


I don't know. I don't think I would fault someone for getting this GTS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$326 with a free version of Crysis isn't a terrible deal. I probably would have gotten that card if it had been available at that price when I bought my GT for $255.
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January 18, 2008 7:35:14 PM

I agree with you GT or GTS 512MB is the way to go. Shoot, I went from a GTS320MB to dual 8800GT SLI partially because of lousy Crysis performance (and the "need" to mess with new hardware ;)  ). I just don't know his prices and budget and the 320MB GTS could be a decent step up. And while $200 isn't bad, I still said the GT is the way to go for $250. But if it amounts to $200 for the GTS 320MB or $300 for the GT (for him) and the GT is a stretch on the budget, then I'd say go for the GTS 320MB.

January 19, 2008 12:29:13 AM

hey thanks guys... yeh I saw a 512mb 8800GT for even cheaper than the GTS 320, about AU$50 cheaper... But it is a single slot cooler... I was also looking at hd3870's but many people seem to believe it is not worth the money compared to the 8800GT...

I appreciate all your replies...

Also sorry I didn't respond before, but here in the land of Oz, I have to post this up late (about 12-1am) so you guys get it fast and I get the fastest replies to when I wake up in the morning... anyway... Looks like the 8800GT is the way to go...
January 19, 2008 1:31:52 AM

HD 3870!!!!
January 19, 2008 1:36:04 AM

The HD3870 isn't better than the 8800GT. Besides on newegg, you can find that they are about the same price.
February 19, 2008 5:07:21 AM

Hello fellow Crysis fan! Kick ASS game isn't it! Of course it wouldn't be fun if your system lagged or couldn't even handle the Crysis game. Here's my info, etc, that I think will help you out quite a bit...

I currently play Crysis on my rig using the same card - 8600GT 256M. I have no problems at all; however, as I get more into gaming, I am wanting to upgrade the 8600GT already! I have the 8800GT 512MB SLI capable graphics card on the way, and should be here by Friday, just i time for the weekend. Check out my system specs from clicking on my profile link for that purpose. I think you'll be ok, then again, I have a dual core 2.11 GHz CPU, and you do not.

Good Luck Evilonigiri! :bounce: 
February 19, 2008 5:55:16 AM

Now that we see the 8800gts(g92) as low as $250-280. Without a doubt is the best deal for a video card hands down. We get better then GTX if not equal to in terms of fps for a cheaper price, and no stupid heating problems that exist in the 8800gt. Better overclocking and aesthetically its sexier then the 8800gt. If you are looking at Nvidia cards the GTS(g92) is really the only choice that would make sense right now. 8800gt is a good card but for almost the same price as the GTS(g92) its a no brainer.

Again you are upgrading from a pathetic mainstream card, if you upgrade now the performance of the GTS(g92) will last even after the 9800 cards comes out. The 9600gt card is slower then the 8800gt and that card is only priced $20 cheaper. And the 9800gtx is as fast as the 8800ultra I believe. You will be in a good position with a 8800gts(g92).

Believe it!
February 19, 2008 6:00:53 AM

parabola said:
Hello fellow Crysis fan! Kick ASS game isn't it! Of course it wouldn't be fun if your system lagged or couldn't even handle the Crysis game. Here's my info, etc, that I think will help you out quite a bit...

I currently play Crysis on my rig using the same card - 8600GT 256M. I have no problems at all; however, as I get more into gaming, I am wanting to upgrade the 8600GT already! I have the 8800GT 512MB SLI capable graphics card on the way, and should be here by Friday, just i time for the weekend. Check out my system specs from clicking on my profile link for that purpose. I think you'll be ok, then again, I have a dual core 2.11 GHz CPU, and you do not.

Good Luck Evilonigiri! :bounce: 


Make sure you replace the 300w psu on your dell if you plan on using the 8800gt or more powerful gpu. At the least get a quality 450w+ psu.
February 19, 2008 6:11:50 AM

pauldh said:
I agree with you GT or GTS 512MB is the way to go. Shoot, I went from a GTS320MB to dual 8800GT SLI partially because of lousy Crysis performance (and the "need" to mess with new hardware ;)  ). I just don't know his prices and budget and the 320MB GTS could be a decent step up. And while $200 isn't bad, I still said the GT is the way to go for $250. But if it amounts to $200 for the GTS 320MB or $300 for the GT (for him) and the GT is a stretch on the budget, then I'd say go for the GTS 320MB.

Ebay is the way to go! I won this auction over the weekend:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item...

I saved about $50 buying on ebay. In my research, Tiger Direct wanted $260 shipping included. So if you don't mind buying on ebay, this would be a great alternaive to get a card new or used...
February 19, 2008 6:15:14 AM

TurdBurglar said:
I probably would have gotten that card if it had been available at that price when I bought my GT for $255.

How long ago did you purchase your GT? And where did you get it? I am curious to know how the pricng has dropped and by how much. I read somewhere today that we can expect a huge price drop on the 8 series sometime in May or June on account of NVIDIA releasing their 9 series graphics card
February 19, 2008 6:18:50 AM

pauldh said:
I agree with you GT or GTS 512MB is the way to go. Shoot, I went from a GTS320MB to dual 8800GT SLI partially because of lousy Crysis performance (and the "need" to mess with new hardware ;)  ). I just don't know his prices and budget and the 320MB GTS could be a decent step up. And while $200 isn't bad, I still said the GT is the way to go for $250. But if it amounts to $200 for the GTS 320MB or $300 for the GT (for him) and the GT is a stretch on the budget, then I'd say go for the GTS 320MB.

Hi pauldh,

You have helped me before with my 8600 GT. It has been working just fine, but now I have an 8800 GT on the way from winning a bid on ebay. The card should be here before Friday, the weekend. Woo hoo!

My question. Same thing as last time. Do I need an external cable to run the card? Will I be able to just place the 8800GT in the PCI-e bus and be done with it just like the 8600GT where no external power cables are needed?

Thanks in advance for your reply...
February 19, 2008 7:46:03 AM

8800gt requires a six pin power connecter for pcie x16 cards.
February 19, 2008 8:04:48 AM

narutard said:
8800gt requires a six pin power connecter for pcie x16 cards.

Oh crap. I was afraid of this. Now I must ask, where do I connect everything? One end of the 6 pin connetor obviously is going to connect to the card itself. The other end...? Where does the other end connect? I have already been through this with a recent install (6 weeks ago in fact) for a 8600GT graphics card. It's the one currently in my box.

Can you point me to a website for proper installation? Maybe some instuctions with some really detailed pictures? I have not seen anything at the NVIDIA website concerning any graphic card connection configurations so...HELP! :pt1cable: 

I really would appreciate some assistance because now I am at a dead end. I would like to have this all planned out, get any parts that I may need ahead of receiving my 8800GT this week. I won a bid on ebay for $190 for the 8800GT.

Thank you,
!