Im torn between the 8xxxx series or Quad 9xxx series

[mikeny]

I have a E6300 with a x1900xtx....I am planning to upgrade at the beginning or end of June. Would I get more bang for my buck and better performance from the 8xxxx Wolfdale processors or when the Quads come out ( i forgot the codename for them). I was reading some reviews and a person said that the Wolfdales are a 10% improvement clock over the 65nm Conroe. Or should I wait for the Quad 9xxx series. I've got the itch to build another system.

1- No overclocking
2- Great Framerates
3- Monster machine that will kick any games butt
4- MMORPG killer
5- Flight Simulator X friendly

*ive been reading anantech, xbit and looking at newegg*

*I was looking to upgrade to a P35 board for the 45nm processors
*Watching for new video cards also

 

[randomizer]

FSX will love the quad, for everything else there's Mastercard... er dual cores (theres an ad stuck in my head).

 

[San Pedro]

Try just getting a better video card first and see how that works for you.

3870 x2
9800GX2
9800GTX

Those are the high-end cards coming soon (at least I thnk).

 

[cnumartyr]

Try just getting a better video card first and see how that works for you.

3870 x2
9800GX2
9800GTX

Those are the high-end cards coming soon (at least I thnk).

Initial benchmarks put the 3870X2 and 9800GX2 at being about equal.

There is no 9800 GTX announced (that I know of). So far just the 9800 GX2 and the 9600 GT (along with the other G92 stuff the 8800 GTS and 8800 GT).

The Ultra was pulled from production.

 

[randomizer]

The Ultra was pulled from production.

Finally

 

[mikeny]

Are all these video cards NVDidia? Do you have a link handy about these cards?

My thinking was: the new cards are DX10, I need Windows Vista so I might as well do some upgrading. It's been 2 years, and the Penryns are calling my name

 

[cnumartyr]

Are all these video cards NVDidia? Do you have a link handy about these cards?

My thinking was: the new cards are DX10, I need Windows Vista so I might as well do some upgrading. It's been 2 years, and the Penryns are calling my name

9800 GX2 is nVidia.

3870X2 is ATI.

Quad CF with 2 HD3870X2s will be killer on an X38.

 

[nvalhalla]

you don't NEED vista, they work just fine in xp. the money spent on a new dual for a 0-10% improvement would be a waste. going quad might be a good idea, but just getting a new videocard would provide you with the most noticable improvement.

 

[turpit]

Quad CF with 2 HD3870X2s will be killer on an X38.

Yes. Many coal mines, trees and small animals will be killed to fuel the power plants required to energize that set up.

 

[randomizer]

As long as it's fast.

 

[turpit]

As long as it's fast.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[randomizer]

Actually I'd be more worried about how much it would kill my bank account than a few trees.

 

[turpit]

Thats becuase your not a tree hugger.

I wonder how long until green peace starts harrassing ATI and Nvidia.

 

[randomizer]

I doubt they will. If they were going to, they would have launched their attack when G80/R600 was released.

 

[Evilonigiri]

Meh. Build a couple more nuclear power plants and it's all good.

 

[randomizer]

Yea screw coal. Seriously if we didn't rely on coal/oil and went nuclear instead it would fix lots of problems in the world (and probably cause some more )

1) Global warming, yea, whatever.
2) Huge income for Australia, since we have some of the biggest (if not the biggest) uranium deposits in the world.
3) Won't need to send soldiers to the middle-east to defend deposits of over-priced dead trees.

 

[dragonsprayer]

I have a E6300 with a x1900xtx....I am planning to upgrade at the beginning or end of June. Would I get more bang for my buck and better performance from the 8xxxx Wolfdale processors or when the Quads come out ( i forgot the codename for them). I was reading some reviews and a person said that the Wolfdales are a 10% improvement clock over the 65nm Conroe. Or should I wait for the Quad 9xxx series. I've got the itch to build another system.

1- No overclocking
2- Great Framerates
3- Monster machine that will kick any games butt
4- MMORPG killer
5- Flight Simulator X friendly

*ive been reading anantech, xbit and looking at newegg*

*I was looking to upgrade to a P35 board for the 45nm processors
*Watching for new video cards also

you can not have a killer machine with out overclocking - you need the fsb boost unless you use 1600fsb parts. killer means the top of the top - too hang with the best. you want that you need 3.6-4ghz

you want great frame rates you need to boost the cpu to keep up with the gpu thats why hp and dell oc their $7000 machines


you be best served at stock speeds with the fastest cpu or E8500 at stock speeds a small boost would get you to 3.6ghz

i wait for the new technolgy out this year the new intel socket will deleiver with out oc - intel oc its and chages for it

what is qx9770? its an oc'd qx9650

 

[mustardman24]

dragonsprayer, I don't think CPUs are what is limiting the GPU nowadays. The upper level Core 2's can play most games without being limited, while running at stock speeds. I have the same FPS in crysis at stock E6850 and overclocked (3.7GHz) speeds.

 

[randomizer]

Crysis is CPU limited to a reasonable amount. FSX is incredibly CPU dependent. In fact, if you look at the charts, all the cards perform about the same, BAD!

 

[mikeny]

I was looking to go Penryn because:

1- My brother has offered to take my system so i wont be stuck with extra parts
2- Looking to go to DX10 and PCI-E 2.0
3- Have the itch to go to new technology ( My LG Voyager is lonely lol)
4- Probably will have children when the new processors come out next year so I wont have anytime for a build then!

I was looking at the mid Penryn-Quad Yorkfield- Q9450. I like ATI's 3870x2. I was reading up on it (googled it) and sounds impressive. I read about the 9800 Nvidia thats replacing the Ultra 8800 but hardly any information was available. I think if I put it near my x1900xtx it will eat it up, burp, then spit it at me laughing. I was previously reading that NVidia has had the edge with the 8800 series. Does the 3870x2 change that? What ram will maximize the FSB of the Penryn's? ( I have Corsair xms2 4GB of ddr2-675 now)I was also looking at the mobo's any recomendations? I have a Gigabyte mobo that hasnt given me trouble...I see Gigabyte O.C.'s there mobo, something to watch??

 

[cnumartyr]

Yes. Many coal mines, trees and small animals will be killed to fuel the power plants required to energize that set up.

None, when I have the money to afford that I'll put solar panels on my roof.

 

[Granite3]

3870x2 will prolly take the title for a short period, till the 9800 GX2 comes on but it is great for ATI to take the crown, if only for a short time.

My 8800 GTX is over 15 months old, by far the longest I have owned a card.

Ready to upgrade, and an x board, with intel chipset (x38 or 48)no ddr3 yet, and crossfire with 2 of those 3870x2's looks mighty good to replace the GTX and 680i it is on. Mighty fickish for oc'ing vs the intel boards...

Damn good for competition!

 

[mikeny]

None, when I have the money to afford that I'll put solar panels on my roof.

LoL. Same here.

 

[mikeny]

I don't know if I'll go crossfire. I think the 3870x2's are going to be aroung $400. If I crossfire I might as used that money to get the high end Penryn right below the extreme. Crossfire sounds tempting--2 video cards and since the new cards--3870x2 are duel GPU's (if I read it correctly) then the video setup would be powerful <drooling> Is evga makers of good cards? Their step up program with video cards sounds nice since I dont stick will "old" components and go after the new technology.
I was looking at the x38/48 boards. Or are the NVidia 780i boards and video better? or theres no difference. Part of me is thinking I should of gone with NVidia because all the readings and reviews are high on NVidia and everyone says there video cards are the best. Im not a technofile but I am anal--i like to have the best even though I dont see it lol. No date was set for the 9800? Anyone heard of one? Would it be wise to wait for the 9800 and pair it with a 780 board?

 

[sailer]

Crysis is CPU limited to a reasonable amount. FSX is incredibly CPU dependent. In fact, if you look at the charts, all the cards perform about the same, BAD!

Agreed. When I changed from a 1900 XTX to a 8800 GTS 640, FSX only got a couple frames more. Other games got way better, and on various benchmarks the 8800 was way better, but not with FSX.

That's one of the reason's I plan on getting a quad when the X48 board finally comes out.