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I could get either card within 5 bucks of each other. I Dont game at high resolutions and Id like to keep it Nvidia. Which is a better card? Ive tried the VGA charts but i didn't see the GT256. Btw. I Have an Antec NeoHE 550w PSU and a GeForce 8600GTS SSC right now.

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Message edited by Shaihalud9 on 01-20-2008 at 01:22:34 AM
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8800GT 256MB > 8800GTS 320MB > 86XX

Reply to turboflame

I'd go with the 8800GTS 320MB over the 8800GT 256MB anyday. 256MB just doesn't cut it.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

I was wondering that. Doesn't the GTS have a bigger memory bandwidth? Is the G92 gpu that much better that the smaller bandwidth and less memory still make it a better card? Im kinda leaning toward the GTS because of the memory and the dual slot cooler.

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Shaihalud9 wrote :

I was wondering that. Doesn't the GTS have a bigger memory bandwidth? Is the G92 gpu that much better that the smaller bandwidth and less memory still make it a better card? Im kinda leaning toward the GTS because of the memory and the dual slot cooler.


Yes, the G80 8800GTS has a 320bit memory interface while the 8800GT has a smaller 256bit. However the 256bit is sufficient and cheaper to make, so that's a win win deal. Just overclock the memory speeds higher and it's all good.

I believe that the 8800GTS 320MB is a better deal. It probably out-performs the 8800GT 256MB in couple of games. The fan on the 8800GTS exhausts hot air out of the case, bringing down the temps. The fan is also much quieter under load.

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Message edited by turboflame on 01-20-2008 at 01:53:46 AM
Reply to turboflame

The only advantage of the GTS is the extra memory and bandwidth which would only help if you are running games at a high resolution.

The GT uses less power and is significantly faster as long as you don't play at the highest resolution.

Edit: found benchies

http://www.motherboards.org/review [...] 733_8.html

Reply to turboflame

Spend a little more and get the 512.

Reply to quantumsheep

turboflame wrote :

The only advantage of the GTS is the extra memory and bandwidth which would only help if you are running games at a high resolution.

The GT uses less power and is significantly faster as long as you don't play at the highest resolution.

Edit: found benchies

http://www.motherboards.org/review [...] 733_8.html


First 3dmark doesn't mean squat. Game benches are more important when comparing different cards.

Second, the Alpha dog series is a highly OCed 8800GT while the 8800GTS 320MB is using stock speeds.

So your benchies doesn't mean too much.

On the resolution of 1280x1024, the cards are about equal, depending on what game. The price of the 8800GTS 320MB is falling below $200, so either card is a good choice. However because of the 8800GTS's better cooling, I'd recommend the 8800GTS 320MB.

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Reply to Evilonigiri
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Hey, I kinda have the same dilema, but I didn't create a new thread, I just posted it at "The Short List: the Best Gaming Videocards for the money".

I want a card that I can use for 6-12 months, at 1280x1024, right now I mainly play BF2, and I might start playing BF2142, but my main interest is Frontlines: Fuel Of War, that is coming out next month (or later).

I'd like a card that costs about $200 and can run Frontlines at the previous resolution.

The card I was looking at were the 8800GTS 320mb, the 8800gt 256mb and the HD 3850 512mb.

I might have more info at "The Short List: the Best Gaming Videocards for the money" .. so if any of you can help.

Reply to Fagaru

Quite frankly, if you play on res higher than 1280x1024, the HD 3850 512MB is your best bet. It beats the 8800GT 256MB in most tests.


Message edited by Evilonigiri on 01-20-2008 at 02:32:34 AM
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That doesn't really answer my question, because im going to be playing at 1280x1024, nothing higher and nothing lower.

Reply to Fagaru

Fagaru wrote :

That doesn't really answer my question, because im going to be playing at 1280x1024, nothing higher and nothing lower.


Well than, either the 8800GT or the 8800GTS 320MB should be fine. ;)

I prefer the 8800GTS because it's quieter and it expels heat out the case.

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Reply to Evilonigiri
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So performance wise, they are pretty close?

Reply to Fagaru

i would go with the gts, runs cooler and is cheaper. i just upgraded to a 8800gt from a 8800gts 320. the gt was worth the money but you get get a gts 320 on ebay cheap. i actually have one laying around...

Reply to eagles453809

the gt 512 is closer to gtx. but keep in mind your looking at 240+ for a gt

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I've been looking on eBay, and they sell for about $200, so that isn't all THAT great, considering I can get an 8800GTS for $200 after rebate on Newegg.com

Reply to Fagaru

Fagaru wrote :

So performance wise, they are pretty close?


Generally speaking, the 8800GT is more powerful. Due to it's limited memory, 256MB, it greatly hinders the performance, especially at higher resolutions and some games.

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Reply to Evilonigiri
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So for a card that needs to last me 6-12 months, I should just go for the 8800GTS.

Gaah.. so many people say the 8800GT and others say the 8800GTS (not just here.. but in other placed too).

Reply to Fagaru

Actually the best deal would be 8800GT 512MB, if you could spend a little more.

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Yeah.. if I could, but I can't :( .. just bought a new motorcycle, took all I have.

Reply to Fagaru

Wow you guys really don't get it. You keep saying "especially at higher resolutions but Fagaru clearly said that he plays on 1280x1024. @Fagaru: Get the 256MB GT

@Shaihalud9: Exactly what's your native res? It will help us tell you what's better. If its 1440x1280 or lower, the 256MB GT is probably your best bet.
I got a HD2600XT 512MB because I play on a 21.6" monitor and the res isn't that easy to maintain without at least 512MB of VRAM.

Note: Lol don't flame me for getting that crap card, it handles America's Army (which is the only gamae I play at the moment) at HIGHEST SETTINGS and 8x AA with 16x AS @60FPS no prob, it's limited at 60 though because of my monitor's refresh rate or something, how can I fix this?

Reply to Akifuddin

Akifuddin wrote :

Wow you guys really don't get it. You keep saying "especially at higher resolutions but Fagaru clearly said that he plays on 1280x1024. @Fagaru: Get the 256MB GT


I did say "generally speaking"...;)

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Reply to Evilonigiri

I play at 10x7 natively. I'm probably going to upgrade to a 17in display shortly. I'm thinking i'm gonna get the GTS due to the cooler and price.

Reply to Shaihalud9
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What ever happened to the 2900XT?

Reply to Fagaru

Fagaru wrote :

What ever happened to the 2900XT?


Let's see...takes too much power, too expensive, hot as he||, noisy...oh and only performed as well as the 8800GTS 320MB or 640MB.

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Reply to Evilonigiri
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lol.. why did I ever ask.

Reply to Fagaru
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Problem is, in some games the 256MB 8800GT starts to tank even at 12x10, if you turn on fsaa. To me fsaa is pretty important at 12x10 too. That said, this will be a weak spot for the 320MB GTS too. Honestly I think the two would trade blows, and while the 256MB GTS would probably win more than it loses, I would go for the cooler, quieter 320MB GTS myself if priced the same.

look at 12x10 in crysis:
http://en.expreview.com/?p=159&page=13

Reply to pauldh

Listen to pauldh, he definitely knows vidcards.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

this is close... flip a coin

Reply to starcraftfanatic

I agree that the 320 is quieter and cooler, but only half the heat is pushed out the back of the case. Its the way its set up. That alone keeps the card cooler, sending it out into the box. some gets out the back, but not all. And cooler usually means quieter

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Reply to jaydeejohn

the 256 cards always perform poorly - get 512mb

get the 320 but really you should pop for 512mb

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Yeah, that is true the 8800GTS 320MB/640MB and GTX cooler have vents that let some air into the case. Not quite as bad as the 7900GTX that pushed air out both ends, but it could end up being 50/50 too. Still nice and quiet and it does get some of that air out for sure. Much better than that 8800GT ref cooler.

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Shaihalud9 wrote :

I could get either card within 5 bucks of each other. I Dont game at high resolutions and Id like to keep it Nvidia. Which is a better card? Ive tried the VGA charts but i didn't see the GT256. Btw. I Have an Antec NeoHE 550w PSU and a GeForce 8600GTS SSC right now.



Neither, get a 512mb card, 256mb and even 320mb is looking a little low in this day and age. The 9600gt will be 512mb and about $170 when it comes out, which should be pretty soon. It is roughly double the performance of a 8600gt in gaming. Or if you wanna stick to nvidia just save a bit more cash and get a 8800gt 512mb. You WILL appreciate paying the extra.

Reply to spoonboy

My budget is 200 dollars. Firm. I also can't justify spending the extra 50 or 60 bucks on a card when I don't play higher than 10x7 or 12x10 when i get my new display. I won't ever drop 400 dollars on a 24in LCD. I also don't see how the 9600GT would compete with any 8800 series card, if the past is any proof. On a side note, I asked about X and Y, not X, Y and F.

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Im in the same position as Shaihalud, its 200, NO more, by no means, so those who say, save a litle more and get a 8800gt 512mb are not helping. I just spent all my money on a new motorcycle, and any money I save up is going towards that, id only be able to spend the money I get from re-seling my x1900xtx (here in Chile, I can get about $200 for my x1900xtx, and the 8800gt 256mb costs 310-320 bucks.. so thats why im gonna buy it in the States).

Reply to Fagaru

For $200 you can't do any better than a 512MB HD3850. This one even has a dual-slot cooler:
VisionTek 900206 Radeon HD 3850 512MB

Reply to homerdog

homerdog wrote :

For $200 you can't do any better than a 512MB HD3850. This one even has a dual-slot cooler:
VisionTek 900206 Radeon HD 3850 512MB


That's nearly pointless at the res he's playing at, 1280x1024. The other reason is the 3850 isn't powerful enough to fully take advantage of the 512MB, especially at a lower res.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

Agreed, get the 3850 512MB, nice find homerdog.

edit: @ Evilioni: If he wants to use AA or AS, he'll need it. Also, newer games usually want more VRAM anyways.

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Message edited by Akifuddin on 01-20-2008 at 08:23:17 PM
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Evilonigiri wrote :

That's nearly pointless at the res he's playing at, 1280x1024. The other reason is the 3850 isn't powerful enough to fully take advantage of the 512MB, especially at a lower res.


For some games 512MB is overkill, but in games that it matters it makes a BIG difference. Running out of VRAM is death to framerates. I experienced this with my old 320MB GTS and I game at 1440x900.

Benchmarks don't always show the benefits of added VRAM since they usually don't run for more than a couple of minutes and VRAM usage goes up the more you play (at least with Nvidia cards).

Reply to homerdog

I not looking for an ATI card. I've got an nForce mobo and i'd like to keep it nvidia.

Reply to Shaihalud9

Akifuddin wrote :

Agreed, get the 3850 512MB, nice find homerdog.

edit: @ Evilioni: If he wants to use AA or AS, he'll need it. Also, newer games usually want more VRAM anyways.


Yeah I know. It's just that at the res of 1280x1024, the HD3850 isn't strong enough to use all 512MB. Turning up the AA will bring down frames regardless of the size of the vram.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

I looked up the 3850, nice card. They only had the 256mb version on the VGA charts.. But if what Oni says is true then it shouldn't matter. Anyway, the GTS still beats it.

Reply to Shaihalud9

Shaihalud9 wrote :

I could get either card within 5 bucks of each other. I Dont game at high resolutions and Id like to keep it Nvidia. Which is a better card? Ive tried the VGA charts but i didn't see the GT256. Btw. I Have an Antec NeoHE 550w PSU and a GeForce 8600GTS SSC right now.



Here's a review comparing your options with each other. Even though the 8800GT 256MB is an overclocked one, i think.

http://www.motherboards.org/review [...] 733_1.html

Reply to Slobogob

Slobogob wrote :

Here's a review comparing your options with each other. Even though the 8800GT 256MB is an overclocked one, i think.

http://www.motherboards.org/review [...] 733_1.html


I don't see the HD3850 256MB beating the 700MHz 8800GT 256MB...

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Reply to Evilonigiri

Not trusting the one Slobogob gave, here's one:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=3175&p=6

I trust anandtech.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

Evilonigiri wrote :

Not trusting the one Slobogob gave, here's one:

 

You're right. There is something odd with the new GTS too since it can't touch the 8800GT in some benchmarks.

 

edit: I see. I posted the wrong benchmark. The g92 GTS isn't even on the charts of that one. Stick to the Anandtech reviews.


Message edited by Slobogob on 01-20-2008 at 09:21:16 PM
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Don't forget the 8800GS as an option if the $ is right. It won't be around long.

http://en.expreview.com/?p=160#more-160

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Reply to kpo6969

In reference to the GS, it would be a nice choice.. But i can't find anything in regards to a release date.. And i'd like to purchase by the end of the month.

Reply to Shaihalud9
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The 8800GT is the better deal as it is based on the G92 core.It has 112 pixel pipes as opposed to the 96 pipelines of the older G80 GTS card.The GT also has faster clock speeds all around than the GTS.The GT also has support for DX10.1 as opposed to the GTS 320 which has support for DX10 and not 10.1..I recommend the GT as you don't game at higher resolutions so the extra memory of the 320 is not really needed.I would also like to suggest that you make the 8800GT the 512 version as it will help with rendering and overall performance.It's only a few dollars more,but well worth it.Goodluck.

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