Hello everyone,
Here are the latest benchmarks in 3D rendering (including 3ds Max and Maya) and gaming performance of the latest CPUs from AMD and INTEL:
http://www.techspot.com/review/84- [...] rformance/

I hope this will help those who have not decided yet on which CPU to choose...

Enjoy!

totally useless

since you can over clock an amd quad past 3ghz

you should only only overclock an intel qaud to 3.6ghz

stock speeds are uselss since even dell and hp oc now


WarpedSystems only sells overclocked systems, since 2003!

you can only clock a quad to 3.6 on most systems, but phenom has troubles even reaching 3. Show me proof of alot of phenoms going past 3 or even ~2.7-8

I have to question that benchmark something seems off the test i did on phenom's were much lower and results don't match?.

Excuse me, but why is anyone jumping down the OPs throat??

The benchmarks show what they show. Its too bad if you dont like it, but thats the way it is.

The only thing anyone should be noting (and politely at that) is that the Intel reference systems were a 2.4GHz quad and a 3.0GHz dual core, pitted against 2.6GHz, 2.4GHz, 2.3GHz, 2.2 GHz quads and a 2.6GHz dual.

Unless someone has benchmarks which contradict, and in that case they should still be polite about it and post the links

I don't know if it's been all the lament from enthusiasts but that link really gives an idea that stock vs. stock performance isn't all that bad.

I wonder what will happen to this architecture if they have a decent 45nm process?

Red as always, turpit. What happened to your avatar?

Anyways the Phenom is pretty good for it's low price, it's just that it can't OC well. Here on TGH, most people likes to OC, and thus we don't take the Phenom too well.

exactly. But it's not exactly tainted once removing it's OC capabilities.

Done!

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_ [...] &chart=435

Turpit settle down who jumped down his throat. I don't even see where they have been rude. Your own over reaction says volumes about you.

Every other benchmark for 3dmax paints the same picture Kentfield is faster clock for clock in max and Yorkfield is even faster. Without a little disclosure I have no idea how they got any of the scores. More importantly a render test is the only real test for this application which would be measure in time. I would dig up more but it's late.

That 5 second difference may no not seem like much but for 30 frames or 1 second of animation that's 1:30's of total domination in 3dmax.

So I would ask Mr. Walton to try to backup his facts because I could dig up loads more from many other benchmarking sites with normal test comparisons with full disclosure on how the tests were performed.

I'll have to tell my GF and grandparents the big news. They no longer have to submit themselves to the horrible rendering times that the Phenoms promote. Their days will be so much more productive. score!

While spreading the good news in my Paul Revere clothing I'll be sure to pee on this author's car door handle. That way it's inescapable. If he wants to go home he has to touch it!!

Hmm, yes well, if those benches are to be believed, the phenoms are only 5% slower than the core2 quads.
Dont know though, are they Intel approved?
I thought the standard contract said Intel chips had to win by not less than 20%?

Really? Well, perhaps you would care to share some portion of those volumes?

Nice article. Good read. Thanks for the linkage...

Overall, TLB issues or not, Phenom is a good performer for the price.

Yes, yes, yes, I know...you can OC the C2D and truly spank the Phenom...at stock speeds though Phenom holds it's own, much to the chargrin of the Intel fanbois...

One thing was evident was the 45nm process of the E8400 has its advantages. It will be interesting to see how Phenom compares when it too is 45nm and with further steppings/tweaks. Maybe then AMD will get 3+ GHz out of Phenom

Methinks that a 45nm Phenom will be at the right place and time when Nehalem is released.

This was never in doubt in my mind -- AMD does a good job pricing their processors slightly lower than intel's performance -- at stock/binned speeds. And that's a fair comparison.

The problem with this is that we still have not yet heard rumours of 45nm Phenom having sucessfully booted. Remember, it takes about 1 year to go from first silicon to saleable product. The clock is ticking.

Also, note that AMD's 45nm is not in the same league as intel's 45nm -- since they are still using an oxide gate dielectric. Take a look at the minimal transistor performance between 90nm and 65nm and you'd expect to see about the same for the 45nm transition. End story -- all other things being equal, AMD will still be competitive clock for clock, but not with thermals, and their clock headroom is seriously impacted.

i wish that was true but here the prices are sooo close its not much cheaper 3 bucks?, ill take better performance for 3 bucks thats what my suppliers have them at.

Have you seen this benchmark at LostCircuits (http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_phenom/20.shtml)?
Strangely the Phenoms win out on UT3, and I tend to agree with the opinion that Phenom has some sort of unaccounted "power" which isn't being taken advantage of on current applications.
Interesting.

you know turpit, thats some real BS on your part- you are acting worse than the people than the people you are bitching at. I don't know if it's been all the flame wars here lately or if you are just disgruntled at amd's lack of competitiveness or are just having a bad day. When lonf term somewhat fairly well respectted poster like you act this way it shows how far tom's has slid since being sold I guess......
so in closing....STFU and GBTW

Cheers

And keep pusing these things folks- it's the force that helps move things along.

The good thing about phenom is how it kicks my Athlon 4400 and whenever I get the money I will replace the Athlon and go phenom.
I could go wolfie with the new asrock+wifi which I find hot, but nobody will buy my actual AM2 asrock.
I don't oc, but I tried to push my Athlon to 2.9Ghz stable without raising the voltage. (but I have to admit the asrock has a slightly higher than standar core voltaje)

Uncalled for, especially when you are addressing a moderator but whatever floats your boat.

Word, Playa.