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Need help OC q6600 on Asus Striker II

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July 17, 2008 11:35:18 AM

Hi,

I am new here and I really need your help guys,

I have the following build.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 /w. 8MB L2 (2.4Ghz)
CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120 Air Cooler
Motherboard: ASUS Striker 2 Formula with NForce 780i chipset
Memory: 4GB (2x2GB) OCZ Reaper HPC DDR2 800 (5-5-5-18-T2)
Video Card : BFG GeForce 8800GTX Superclocked 768MB

I tried to Oc to 3.0 with the following settings:

QDR 1333
DDR 800
mulit 9x

voltages are

CPU Voltage = 1.40v
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5v
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.20v
Memory Voltage = 2.1v
NB Core Voltage = 1.40v
SB Core Voltage = 1.50v

it is working fine but once or twice a week for some time I am getting a blue screen of :

*** Hardware Malfunction
Call your hardware vendor for support
*** The system has halted ***

I also tried to set the voltages to Auto but my temp reach 70 within few hours.

More about : q6600 asus striker

July 17, 2008 9:35:24 PM

Folks any help ?
July 18, 2008 12:06:31 AM

Uhh, sure! First off, how about running Core Temp or Real temp and listing your Processors VID.

Since VID is starting voltage for stock settings, it hints at what voltages you'll need for other speeds.

And on a NVidia board, VDrop and droop become the Blue Screen factor!

To test this, you can either boot at stock, after looking at the VID, then manually enter the VID as the Bios VCore, and disable speed step, C1E and any EITS you may have in your Bios!

Boot to windows, and look with CPUz to see what your current Core Voltage is. It will be under the Bios VCore by some, that is Vdrop.

After wards, you can run Prime 95 small ffts torture test on all 4 cores for at least a minute or two, and then list what it now says your Core Voltage is with Cpuz. It will be lowered again, that is VDroop.

List them all here!

Vdrop = Initial from Bios to idle windows voltage drop.

VDroop = further dropping of VCore when loaded on small ffts, all cores.

AFTER their effects is your Loaded VCore value.

--Lupi
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July 18, 2008 1:20:05 AM

thx for the rely.

Vdrop = 1.28v

VDroop = 1.23v
July 18, 2008 1:48:07 AM

And that is at what Bios VCore setting? (If VID, then let me know that, too, because I need to know what yer starting voltage is, for both the test, and the VID of the processor.

:) 

--Lupi
July 18, 2008 2:16:08 AM

btw i am now settting all voltages to auto.

How i can get the VID?
July 18, 2008 2:29:33 AM

First line in upper post! Down load and run the program, Real temp, Or Core temp, and they will tell you. You may have to disable speed step, C1E and EIST in the bios first.

If you had it on auto in the test above, then you are gonna have a 1.3250 VID chip, like everyone else! It's the worse one, and will establish what you need for higher over clocks!

--Lupi
July 18, 2008 2:52:43 AM

OK :)  here is the correct readings.

At stoking speed, C1E & EIST are both disabled

the voltages are

VID = 1.3250v (same VID before & after the test)
drop = 1.232v
droop = 1.200v

Please disregard the old posted voltages
July 18, 2008 3:45:17 AM

One last thing! Load Line Calibration. If you have it, enable it, and then run the same test again!

1.3250 will need 1.44-1.45 volts while running small ffts on that VID chip!

--Lupi
July 18, 2008 4:32:39 AM

With Load Line Calibration
it is the same

VID = 1.325v
drop = 1.232v
droop = 1.200v
July 18, 2008 4:56:43 AM

Wow, that is strange!!

Have you updated your Bios lately? :) 

Load Line Calibration enabled should reduce the effects.

Even on my Asus board with it, it leaves .0750 VDrop, but no VDroop what so ever. (780I P5N72-T)

Here is how that works!

When you over clock, you need to make up for the extra speed and power requirements of the processor by adding VCore, we all know that!

But when your VDrop and droop are so high, it basically negates the effect we need to over clock!

if that is the case, then you would need 1.5500 to get near 1.44 loaded that you will need at 3.6 Ghz.

So with that board, and that Vdrop and droop, you get to waste .1350 volts of power that could help you over clock!

For instance, my Maximus formula, with load line calibration enabled, has a Vdrop of .0250, and No VDroop at all!

So I would need 1.4625 for about 1.44 while Loaded. That is alot less voltage than you will need, because of the board.

NVidia is always like that, I had to settle with 3.4 Ghz on my 1.3250 q6600 on a P5n-d NVidia board.

Where would you like to actually OC to?

--Lupi
July 18, 2008 12:47:11 PM

Thank for the the greate help.

acctually yesterday I have updated my bios to the last version from Asus 1401.

I would like to OC to 3.2

What about the NB votages?
July 19, 2008 3:38:52 AM

So whats up now?

I have raised the voltages :

CPU votage is 1.55
NB is 1.4

and still geeting blue screen @ 3000
July 19, 2008 3:46:58 AM

Is there any way for you to get pics of your Bios? I dont have that board, but I do have an Asus 780i, and man, it was a byotch to over clock at all.

Doesn't save settings, the seamless memory thingie hates on certain FSB points, had to automatically adjust VTT and GTL off the top to compensate for low level interference before it would even boot without just freezing.

If you can't post em, I will try and hunt em down.

--Lupi
July 19, 2008 3:49:57 AM

i need to have cam for this maybe

I am thnink also to downgrade the bios to 1001 cause i feel that ver 1401 is diffcault to OC

Can i use print screen to take shoots of the bios ? i dont think it will work
July 19, 2008 3:51:11 AM

Anyways, since you left again, run the blend test!

The seamless strap bullshiznit likes to leave a trail of quick failures when the blend test is running, so that gives it away.

Then there are the goodies like transactionbooster, static read controls, VTT and GTL, skews, pull ins and all sorts of other junk to mess with your RAM and that seamless memory stepping trash!

Did you disable all the CPU options? Did you disable all the spread spectrum junk? Did you lock the PCIe to 100 for now?

Yee haw!

--Lupi
July 19, 2008 3:59:01 AM

why I cannot attached files ?
July 19, 2008 4:01:35 AM

You may have to place them on Photobucket, and then use their links to place here!

--Lupi!
July 19, 2008 4:02:08 AM

I have them all in a word file
July 19, 2008 4:04:46 AM

I have no clue how to place that in here! hehehe! I didn't even use the photobucket method until someone showed me!



hehehe!

--Lupi
July 19, 2008 4:06:57 AM

what is the name of the down left programe (tree) ? i want to download it
July 19, 2008 4:10:58 AM

Got AIM?
July 19, 2008 4:13:40 AM

Can't open it.

I dont have word or compatible progie.
July 19, 2008 4:28:15 AM

I could see the JPeg! Wow!
July 19, 2008 4:29:18 AM

what about the word file is it working ?
July 19, 2008 3:41:30 PM

Hi all, I think I've reached 3.50 GHz on air.

Configuration: Q6600 G0 + Asus Striker II Formula Bios 1401. For more details you can ask there.

I've attached screen of test running 8 hours with 4 threads of Prime 95.
if you like to know what settings I've used for reach this result, ask there (you'll probably need registration).

Anyone reached 3.60 GHz? I cannot reach 400x9 stable. any suggestion?
July 19, 2008 3:46:11 PM

HugeDamage said:
Hi,


voltages are

CPU Voltage = 1.40v
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5v
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.20v
Memory Voltage = 2.1v
NB Core Voltage = 1.40v
SB Core Voltage = 1.50v

it is working fine but once or twice a week for some time I am getting a blue screen of :

*** Hardware Malfunction
Call your hardware vendor for support
*** The system has halted ***

I also tried to set the voltages to Auto but my temp reach 70 within few hours.


You'll need to increase VTT voltage up to 1.42v ~ 1.50v.
Let me know if something goes better!
July 19, 2008 4:26:44 PM

webkin thank for the post.

which air cooling u r using ?
July 19, 2008 4:29:36 PM

It will be greate if you post your details setting here.

I the link you provided is for spanish forum which i cannot understand spanish and i am not sure how i can register there.
July 19, 2008 4:39:28 PM

Updated settings HERE. The forum is italian but I wrote settings in english. You'll be able to understand!

Let me know if it helped you!
July 19, 2008 4:47:04 PM

thank you very much.

what about the DDR is it 800 ?? and the memory timing is it auto ?
July 19, 2008 4:51:34 PM

You've PM...

I used Xtreem Dark of TeamGoup, 800 MHz 5-5-5-15 2T, vMem Auto (1.9 I think), for more details you know know where can ask for :) 

Were those settings good for you? Did you boot windows?


July 19, 2008 4:58:59 PM

still trying i will update you
July 19, 2008 6:20:31 PM

OK, let me know with an email!
July 20, 2008 1:44:05 AM

Folks,

I was able to boot windows on 3.50 with the follwing setting:

All Thermal Control = Disabled
All Spread Spectrum = Disabled
FSB = 1556 MHz
Molt. = x 9
Final Freq = 3.51 GHz


Voltage controls:

CPU vCore = 1,55 v
CPU PLL = 1,66v
CPU VTT 1,50 v
MEM = auto
NB core = 1,44v
SB Core = 1,50v
1.2v HT = 1,20v
Bridge = auto

CPU GTL ref ratio = +50 mV
NB GTç ref ratio = +30 mV

OCZ Reaper HPC DDR2 800 (5-5-5-18-T2)

BUT I am not able to pass the Small or Blend prime test casue it fails.

What to do now ?
July 20, 2008 1:45:12 AM

Lupiron where are you man ? have you seen the BIOS screenshots ?
July 20, 2008 1:50:10 AM

Not in my mail box, and man... I feel for your poor chip!

Do you have ANY instant messaging service? I hate posting.
July 20, 2008 1:57:13 AM

Wow, and it's 10 times worse when you leave every question.
July 20, 2008 9:12:58 AM

So, what about trying to set Vcore to 1,4625 V ?
Are you using a G0 Sepping Processor? Can you update CPU-Z screen shots?
July 20, 2008 9:31:19 AM

We are discussing about it HERE .

Take a look!
July 21, 2008 4:34:51 PM

Lupiron,

any ideas from your side, I feel bad man cause I cannot OC my CPU.

atleast I want to OC to 3.0
July 21, 2008 7:30:13 PM

Go to photobucket.com

Make a FREE account.

Upload your images there.

Paste the image links in here.

Also, do the blend test with Prime! And remember what happens!

Don't worry, it's not the CPU at all, its the mother board and chipset. (And prolly your RAM, or the seamless strap bull shiznit causing it.)

--Lupi
July 21, 2008 8:17:26 PM

here is the cpuz image



can you till me the name of this programe

July 21, 2008 8:20:28 PM

I think that I will downgrade the bios from 1401 to 1001.

I was able before to OC to 3.2 and pass all the tests on bios ver 1001 but from time to time I was get a blue screen

I tried the CPU level up on bios 1401 and it is not working, but in bios 1001 it is working.

I have a feeling the 1401 is not a good version

What do you think ? Lupiron
July 21, 2008 8:28:15 PM

The second program is HWMonitor, there is a newer version than that out. ALSO Down Load Core temp.

Now what are the problems in full?

The temps with HWMonitor... testing temps?

Anyways, we need BIOS shots, not HWMonitor, or any others for now!

or at least, I do!

--Lupi
July 22, 2008 6:59:18 AM

OK Here is what happing exactly.

I have Asus Striker II mother board with ver 1001 and I have applied the follwing voltages setting on the bios to OC to 3.0:

QDR 1333
DDR 800
mulit 9x

voltages are

CPU Voltage = 1.40v
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5v
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.20v
Memory Voltage = 2.1v
NB Core Voltage = 1.40v
SB Core Voltage = 1.50v

it is working fine and I pass all prime 95 tests but once or twice a week for some time I am getting a blue screen of :

*** Hardware Malfunction
Call your hardware vendor for support
*** The system has halted ***

As a second try, I have keep all the above setting same but change the voltages to AUTO. I did not get the blue screen again but the CPU is heated very quickly and the temp reach 70c within hours and then the system shutdown automatically becaus of heat.

Then, I tried the follwing:

I upgraded the bios to ver 1401 (latest) and apply the same above setting with the follwing votages:

CPU Voltage = 1.40v
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5v
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.20v
Memory Voltage = 2.1v
NB Core Voltage = 1.40v
SB Core Voltage = 1.50v

BUT I was not able to boot windows this time but I was able to boot waindows with the same setting on bios ver 1001.

I have changed the setting on bios ver 1401 to the following:

All Thermal Control = Disabled
All Spread Spectrum = Disabled
FSB = 1556 MHz
Molt. = x 9
Final Freq = 3.51 GHz


Voltage controls:

CPU vCore = 1,55 v
CPU PLL = 1,66v
CPU VTT 1,50 v
MEM = auto
NB core = 1,44v
SB Core = 1,50v
1.2v HT = 1,20v
Bridge = auto

CPU GTL ref ratio = +50 mV
NB GTç ref ratio = +30 mV

BUT this time I cannot pass any prime 95 test and the system hangs after 30mins.

Do you think it is a bios proplem?
July 22, 2008 7:31:45 AM

Here is Screenshots of BIOS ver 1001












July 22, 2008 7:50:53 AM

hey guys. I have my own tread at http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/248119-11-e6600-ove... but nobody seems willing to help lol :D 

anyways. does 1.4v seems like a awfull lot on a E6600 running on a P5W DH Deluxe. The CPU is running at 3.0 ghz. maybe i have the same problem with the vdroop and all. didnt understand that bit :D 
!