AMD x2 4800+ Brisbane or C2D E2160

[rattman169]

Which would be better say for games, transcoding audio/video and just overall performance. Since I am using a very limited budget I have to choose only these 2 processors to go with thier Mobo's. The C2D E2160 would be running with a BFG 6800 GT OC AGP 256 Mb videocard, the AMD X2 4800+ would be running ATI x1250. Suggestions???

 

[Evilonigiri]

Are you going to OC? If yes, the the E2160.

If no, the AMD would be slightly faster...I think...

 

[epsilon84]

Here are some benchmarks for comparison:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3112&p=8

I'd say the X2 4800+ would be faster in most things, but gaming performance would come down to GPU performance more than anything.

I've never seen a 6800GT vs x1250 comparison so I can't really say which is faster, but both are quite old and will run newer games poorly (if at all) and no CPU is going to change that.

 

[rattman169]

Well for the AMD system the videocard is integrated, but it has the PCI-E connector which eventually the HD 3870 Radeon to be installed. This will be within 3 months. The games that are being played are Halflife 2, Call Of Duty 2 and just mainly card games. That's why it truly is not important which VC, I don't play BIG games, sorry I play the Need For Speed Series up to NFS: Carbon, I have prostreet on the Wii.

 

[smartel7070]

First of all the 2160 is not a C2D.

The e2160 is a Core2duo. I't based on the Allendale core one of the difference with other C2D is that they only have 1mb of cache.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/09/12/pentium_dual_core/

Quote from 3rd paragraph:

"The Pentium Dual Core, which we found to be an excellence choice for overclockers on a low budget, is based on the popular Core 2 architecture. In fact, the processor cores are the same, but the CPU comes with only 1 MB L2 cache instead of 2 MB or even 4 MB. In addition, some features, such as Intel's Virtualization Technology (VT) are disabled."

 

[benrr]

clock for clock the core duo is faster but with 1meg cache well its not going to break any records but still beats a 5000+ easy even at same mhz.

 

[spanner_razor]

The 6800 is far better than the 1250. Obviously gonna be better; it's a top end card from 2 generations back as opposed to a complete low card from 1 generation back. However if you plan to get a new graphics card within three months for definite then get the AMD system with pci-e slot.
But why don't you get a motherboard that supports pci-e and the pentium as currently intel is generally faster.

 

[rattman169]

several reason, first off, this is all free, all the parts are free, only reason is I am selling my current rig which is a Pentium D 820 2.8 Ghz dual core, the changes would be either complete system change to AMD or keep my current Mobo with VC and just up the CPU, not OCing anything. Like I stated, mainly a workstation/server for file storage, and backing up. I am an IT professional and download alot of software for testing purpose, the 6800GT is fast, runs every game I own at MAX settings @ 1024*768 or 1280*1024 so I am very content, I see that the AMD is faster in the benchmarks for the things I do most. I was just curious to see if in the long run it was better or stick with the intel board I have and just replace the CPU (remember that it is of no cost) if I change the CPU for a better one then it would start to cost. I want to spend nothing!!!! I only update when needed. I am not worried about other parts. Case is a NSK6850 with an OCZ Stealthextreme 600Watt PS, one SATA 320 Gb HD, one LG DVDRW and SB Live Digital Soundcard. Also running 2 Gb DDR2 667 Mhz memory Kit so that is not changing. Thanks everyone for your responses.

 

[spanner_razor]

Can that motherboard support the pentium? If so stick with the core 2 duo pentium and 6800GT combo.

 

[rattman169]

Oh, not worried about Mobo, supports DDR2 800 memory and quad CPU's, 1066 FSB and CPU works, already tested one, also checked and will be able to get an E2200 instead of the E2160. I probably stick with the Intel setup, less to change and works well.

 

[amddiesel]

Go with what makes you feel good.. Your comparing 5-10% difference

You like red.. I like red-orange

 

[amddiesel]

i think the chart has a typo ..Correct if im wrong.. A pentium dual core e2160?

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=934&model2=883&chart=419

 

[TSIMonster]

The newer brisbanes are overclocking pretty well. I would be willing to bet you can at least get the thing to 3.2Ghz.

I have bought 4 4000+ Brisbanes in the past couple of months and all of them hit 2.8Ghz on stock voltages on both ECS and ASUS motherboards. I didn't push them any further because these were office machines and didn't require it.

In short, I would go with the 4X00+ over the Pentium Dual-Core

 

[TSIMonster]

several reason, first off, this is all free, all the parts are free, only reason is I am selling my current rig which is a Pentium D 820 2.8 Ghz dual core, the changes would be either complete system change to AMD or keep my current Mobo with VC and just up the CPU, not OCing anything. Like I stated, mainly a workstation/server for file storage, and backing up. I am an IT professional and download alot of software for testing purpose, the 6800GT is fast, runs every game I own at MAX settings @ 1024*768 or 1280*1024 so I am very content, I see that the AMD is faster in the benchmarks for the things I do most. I was just curious to see if in the long run it was better or stick with the intel board I have and just replace the CPU (remember that it is of no cost) if I change the CPU for a better one then it would start to cost. I want to spend nothing!!!! I only update when needed. I am not worried about other parts. Case is a NSK6850 with an OCZ Stealthextreme 600Watt PS, one SATA 320 Gb HD, one LG DVDRW and SB Live Digital Soundcard. Also running 2 Gb DDR2 667 Mhz memory Kit so that is not changing. Thanks everyone for your responses.

If this is the case, switching the AMD makes no sense. Honestly, neither upgrade is going to yield extremely great results. I would stick with what you have and use it as a second system and build new when it is absolutely needed.

 

[rattman169]

Well as I stated, my aunt wants my system, she is willing to pay the for the upgrade parts and I will give her the new mobo and CPU if I go Intel, If I go AMD she will take my mobo and CPU and I get the new. Basically I was seeing if anyone has had issue or if AMD is truly faster. Thanks for the input, i really appreciate tha answer.

 

[TSIMonster]

Oh, gotcha. I think AMD would be the way to go for lower-end gaming systems. Once you get beyond the E2X00 (E4X00 and higher) intel becomes the better value.

Like I said earlier:

ASUS M2A-VM
AMD X2 4000+

I love this combo. The motherboard is sweet, overclocks well, supports phenom, and 4 sticks of DDR2... it just rocks.

 

[Raketta]

I have an e2160 at 3.2 GHZ outperforms the QX6700 in most of the benchmarks....so just think about it.Before this CPU i had an x2 3800+(not overclockable-stock 2.0 GHZ max OC 2.4-but instable!!!!)