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reconviperone1   01-29-2008 at 05:16:42 AM

I am curious to know if any web site have benchmarked amd spectacular failure(quadfx) against it's underachieving replacment(9000 series quads). The quadfx were power hungry monsters like the, but they ran from 2.6 to 3ghz, the phenom is a better designed chip, but it's clocked so low. Just from brute force I'm gonna go with the quadfx cpu's what do you think?

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nightscope   01-29-2008 at 05:23:51 AM
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Eh...I would go with the Phenom. It's not smart to buy an older generation product when they're their priced the same/higher in some cases.

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teh_boxzor   01-29-2008 at 05:27:16 AM
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Phenom Ftw. seems to have a somewhat better architecture than k8 if TLB patch isn't in play.

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Evilonigiri   01-29-2008 at 06:12:57 AM
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Well if it was the FX-74 vs the 9500...I would say the FX-74.

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bstep1989   01-29-2008 at 06:21:54 AM
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what would be the point of going with a quad FX platform? your upgrading abilities would be limited to the RAM slots, sata ports optical drives, PCI slots, but not CPU, AMD has said that they will no longer be supporting the 1207 FX pin set, and will not be releasing new products with that socket type. in less than a two years you will have completly useless motherboard and processors, unless of course you dont plan on playing many games that come out after that

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Evilonigiri   01-29-2008 at 06:28:10 AM
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He's just curious.

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Yomamafor1   01-29-2008 at 07:16:14 AM
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At least Phenom doesn't suffer from NUMA.

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TechnologyCoordinator   01-29-2008 at 09:05:59 AM
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If I was forced (at gunpoint) to pick between ONLY a QuadFX and a TLB Phenom, I'd take the Phenom hands down any day of the week.

But of course if the Q6600 was an option, that'd be an even easier choice.

QuadFX < Phenom < Q6600

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epsilon84   01-29-2008 at 01:40:06 PM
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Performance wise, a pair of FX-74s should be around Phenom 9600 levels.

However, why anyone would consider it is beyond me. It costs about 3x as much (including the $350 mobo!), has a 250W combined TDP, and is a dead end platform since AMD dropped support for it.

Phenom is not a particularly strong CPU, but compared to QuadFX it's almost like comparing an A64 to a Prescott. :p

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Mathos   01-29-2008 at 10:37:24 PM
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They didn't say they were no longer going to support the 1207 pin socket, they said they weren't going to support the 4x4 platform that the FX74 used. Which would mean if an owner were lucky and the board maker was nice enough to come out with a Phenom Bios update after the Phenom FX comes out, you might be able to upgrade to 2 of them. Which would be interesting to see the performance results of, especially on threaded apps.

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jimmysmitty   01-30-2008 at 12:06:37 AM
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You have to consider price & power usage performance ratio. Even if the FX74 does outperform the Phenom the power usage and cost would pretty much kill the extra performance. Although if money is no object then it wouldn't matter.

I think it would be even depending on how efficient the board would communicate between the two CPUs and how well it split the work load.

But if price was no object than I would like to see FX74, vs Phenom vs C2QX vs Skulltrail. That would be interesting to see what does the best.

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teh_boxzor   01-30-2008 at 12:11:59 AM
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didn't AMD say the 790fx would come in a 1207 pin variety with dual sockets for the higher clocked phenoms?

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jimmysmitty   01-30-2008 at 12:15:20 AM
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teh_boxzor wrote :

didn't AMD say the 790fx would come in a 1207 pin variety with dual sockets for the higher clocked phenoms?



They changed their minds. Support for the QuadFX setup was dropped a few weeks ago. That means no more 1207 pin setups and only AM2/AM3(when it comes out). So no more QuadFX.

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TechnologyCoordinator   01-30-2008 at 12:23:10 AM
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jimmysmitty wrote :

They changed their minds. Support for the QuadFX setup was dropped a few weeks ago. That means no more 1207 pin setups and only AM2/AM3(when it comes out). So no more QuadFX.




I think QuadFX was a mistake from the start. Some of the early adopters will feel alienated by AMD's empty promises, but killing QuadFX is the right thing to do, even in spite of that. I just don't picture that line making revenue!

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runswindows95   01-30-2008 at 12:31:21 AM
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Buying a QuadFX is pointless at this point. It'll be like buying a Pentium D EE CPU. In other words, a waste of money.

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reconviperone1   01-30-2008 at 02:11:51 AM
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bstep1989 wrote :

what would be the point of going with a quad FX platform? your upgrading abilities would be limited to the RAM slots, sata ports optical drives, PCI slots, but not CPU, AMD has said that they will no longer be supporting the 1207 FX pin set, and will not be releasing new products with that socket type. in less than a two years you will have completly useless motherboard and processors, unless of course you dont plan on playing many games that come out after that



epsilon84 wrote :

Performance wise, a pair of FX-74s should be around Phenom 9600 levels.

However, why anyone would consider it is beyond me. It costs about 3x as much (including the $350 mobo!), has a 250W combined TDP, and is a dead end platform since AMD dropped support for it.

Phenom is not a particularly strong CPU, but compared to QuadFX it's almost like comparing an A64 to a Prescott. :p



Evilonigiri wrote :

He's just curious.


I don't want to buy it just curious about the performance of each compared to each other.

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