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HD3870X2 delayed untill the 28th

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January 23, 2008 6:47:56 PM

darn! I hope the 28th is right! AMD delayed it so stock could build - is the price going to be $650 or $450?

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January 23, 2008 8:20:54 PM

Well during an interview with gamespot the "ballpark range" was $400-500. I'm still waiting for it be released, waiting on it for my new build :p 
January 23, 2008 9:02:06 PM

It is NOT going to sell for $450. The SAPPHIRE Atomic 3870 was reviewed to be $10 or $15 more then a normal dual slot SAPPHIRE 3870. However, NewEgg goes and sells it for $300, which is a massive markup.
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January 23, 2008 9:13:14 PM

So perhaps $600+?

That'll cost way too much.
January 23, 2008 9:16:04 PM

I really hope its cheaper than we're all expecting it to be. I'd love to put one in the X38 rig I'm putting together but if it's too expensive I'll just have to go with a GTS 512.
a b U Graphics card
January 23, 2008 9:42:32 PM

I suspect at launch it'll be above MSRP (probably only $50-100 initially IMO), and then depending on supply and demand shift from there up or down.

The GF8800GT, HD3870 and GF8800GTS all launched very close to MSRP for the first tiny few sold, and then promptly went out of stock and then price jacked up $50+ and then when they were in stock again were still $50+ above MSRP.

I suspect if there's the same demand imbalance that we'll see the same situation again.
January 23, 2008 10:16:02 PM

Seraphic said:
It is NOT going to sell for $450. The SAPPHIRE Atomic 3870 was reviewed to be $10 or $15 more then a normal dual slot SAPPHIRE 3870. However, NewEgg goes and sells it for $300, which is a massive markup.

What the heck does that have to do with the 3870X2?
It will go for $450, just wait and watch.
Do you think AMD is that dumb? If the price of the 3870X2 was $500+ then there would be no point in buying it since 2x 3870 will be cheaper. :non: 
January 23, 2008 10:48:37 PM

Just because 2 3870's would be cheaper doesn't mean that the x2 won't be $500+. For people that want crossfire but only have 1 pcix16 or for people that want quad crossfire with 2 pcix16 slots then they would have to pay a premium.
January 24, 2008 9:33:00 AM

Seraphic said:
It is NOT going to sell for $450. The SAPPHIRE Atomic 3870 was reviewed to be $10 or $15 more then a normal dual slot SAPPHIRE 3870. However, NewEgg goes and sells it for $300, which is a massive markup.


newegg isnt the only etailer
January 24, 2008 9:41:18 AM

dragonsprayer said:
darn! I hope the 28th is right! AMD delayed it so stock could build - is the price going to be $650 or $450?


Don't spose u know a good e-tailer for Italy?? I've asked this a few times, to no avail.
Ryan
January 24, 2008 10:36:21 AM

http://pcsuperdeals.com/SearchCatalog.asp?search=3870x2

hmm, found those 3870x2 on that site, 467$ i guess isn't a bad deal i suppose, i'm going to look around some more but i seen a lot of sites claiming the MSRP to be 450$? but if the MSRP is 450$ and its selling for 467$, i would say thats not too bad of a markup, i plan on getting one, just hope EVGA will come out with their version soon (if ever?) :]
January 24, 2008 11:51:58 AM

spoonboy said:
newegg isnt the only etailer


So far Newegg is the only one selling the atomic. So brace your self for the big mark up if they do it to this.
January 24, 2008 12:12:30 PM

EVGA only does Nvidia cards, so don't hold your breath.
January 24, 2008 12:14:42 PM

aznguy0028 said:
http://pcsuperdeals.com/SearchCatalog.asp?search=3870x2

hmm, found those 3870x2 on that site, 467$ i guess isn't a bad deal i suppose, i'm going to look around some more but i seen a lot of sites claiming the MSRP to be 450$? but if the MSRP is 450$ and its selling for 467$, i would say thats not too bad of a markup, i plan on getting one, just hope EVGA will come out with their version soon (if ever?) :]


As mentioned.. EVGA is an nVidia partner.

HIS, Sapphire, and Diamond are good manufacturers on the ATi side.

I'd like a 3870X2 with a modified IceQ3 Cooler from HIS.
January 24, 2008 12:19:31 PM

Ive been trying to find some benchies for the HIS turbo but to no avail.
January 24, 2008 12:20:59 PM

spoonboy said:
Ive been trying to find some benchies for the HIS turbo but to no avail.


Well the good things are this:

GPU PLL Divider = Fixed. No more 862 MHz max Core Clock.

825 MHz Stock Core Clock. I think we might see 900-1000 MHz on air.. I don't think they squeezed everything they could out of this silicon.
January 24, 2008 12:23:23 PM

It'll sell if the MSRP holds, but can they get enough to stores to meet demand even?
January 24, 2008 1:12:05 PM

Like Ape said, if you dont get you're purchase in within the first few hours (when prices will most likley be at or very close to MSRP) then expect them to get jacked up. I don't think it'll be any different from the 3870 or 8800GT launches; This is the first card that's able to beat the Ultra in some cases, and it can be Crossfired down the road with another which provides great updradeability. I think it'll be really popular (high demand = low stock = high prices, as you all know)
a c 130 U Graphics card
January 24, 2008 1:58:41 PM


To spoonboy
I recon they HIS didnt release any to be reviewed as every review site i go to sends me to this b/stupid 3dman vidio review which if you want tec specs is great but just telling you what FPS it got on a set system without any comparisons is lame to say the least.
I may be wrong but it does seem strange that they arnt out there.
Mactronix
January 24, 2008 2:41:13 PM

Yeah i got that too lol, mountains of sites that refer to his reviews, theyre fun enough i guess (the videos) but not really useful (although it is nice to see the cards on film and get an idea of scale and what-have-you). Maybe HIS like to see themselves as being exlcusive and above giving out samples lol.

cheers
January 25, 2008 12:05:29 AM

please post any more links the best video card made! HD3870X2

gogo amd!

TY aznewgyuy!
January 25, 2008 12:45:43 AM

From what little I've seen, I'm NOT amused with the 3870 X2
Slower than the 8800GTS 512 in Crysis. :pfff: 
Lets hope I'm wrong.
January 25, 2008 1:13:08 AM

you can not go by one game but i would heavily wait crysis myself

we see in few days

my 8800GTS 512 rocks crysis
January 28, 2008 4:54:03 AM

YAY tomorrow comes the 3870x2's!!!!!!!!!!!


price drops for the single 38xx series?
January 28, 2008 4:55:36 AM

teh_boxzor said:
YAY tomorrow comes the 3870x2's!!!!!!!!!!!


price drops for the single 38xx series?

It should, but not anytime soon.
January 28, 2008 5:32:15 AM

its $600 over here in england... both HIS and MSI models that is.
a b U Graphics card
January 28, 2008 6:14:42 AM

According to the reviews on the home page, the 3870X2 was beaten by the 8800 ultra, GTS and by a crossfired 3870s.
If this is true, all this card would do is save space and some money as it would save you from crossfiring your 3870's.
January 28, 2008 6:22:43 AM

Erm it beats the 8800ultra in almost every scenario, except crysis. It also beats 2 crossfired 3870s although just marginally.

I'm looking forward to the latest version of CC to iron out a few kinks.
January 28, 2008 11:53:59 AM

There are two very different conclusions to be drawn depending on what reviews you read:



THG - X2 is poor, new drivers might help
Anand - X2 is already great, and can only improve
January 28, 2008 12:36:46 PM

THG didnt seem that negative about it mate, come on.
January 29, 2008 2:36:25 AM

in most tests i read, most of the reviewers said that the card was bottlenecked by the CPU.
January 29, 2008 2:40:15 AM

teh_boxzor said:
in most tests i read, most of the reviewers said that the card was bottlenecked by the CPU.


What were they using a Pentium III?
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2008 6:16:38 AM

Seraphic said:
It is NOT going to sell for $450.


Oh REAL-LLllyyyyyy ?

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:hello: 

Couldn't resist after the capitalized 'NOT'.

Now the only question is will this last?
January 29, 2008 6:53:32 AM

TheGreatGrapeApe said:
Oh REAL-LLllyyyyyy ?

[:mousemonkey:1] [:thegreatgrapeape] [:mousemonkey:1] [:thegreatgrapeape] [:mousemonkey:1] [:thegreatgrapeape] [:mousemonkey:1] [:thegreatgrapeape] [:mousemonkey:1] [:thegreatgrapeape] [:mousemonkey:1]

:hello: 

Couldn't resist after the capitalized 'NOT'.

Now the only question is will this last?


I dont see why it couldnt last at that price, this is far higher priced than the 8800GT 3870 battles, as we keep saying around here volume of sales is slimmer in the higher price ranges. I dont see the mass buying on this, between the price of the card putting it out of the "easy buy now" range, and new releases due from nvidia soon.

It looks like a decent card for the money, im in the market for more performance, but Ive recently found out that one of the games I play most doesnt support multi gpu solutions :fou:  (As in you have to disable sli \ crossfire in order to play). In the situation Im in owning a 8800GTX already unfortunately this card isnt an upgrade option for the game I play most :( . The 9800GX2 wont be the solution either regardless of its performance. It looks like my hopes for an upgrade lie with the 9800GTX, I refuse to buy an 8800 ultra for its small gains over the gtx :( . Im thinking as the rumours lie at the moment that 9800gtx SLI setup for most games and SLI disabled for LOTRO :( .

Whats the betting the 9800GTX will be launched at between 8800 ultra and gtx prices with a 10% gain over the old ultra putting me in the position of having to choose between the cheap option of sli'ing my current 8800gtx's and the not so cheap option of new 9800GTX's at 3-4x the cost for 20% more speed than I would on the cheap option :( . Reheats arent enough, I need some serious advancement in power accesible by all games not dependant on buggy \ patchy support.
a b U Graphics card
January 29, 2008 6:57:07 AM

Hey I would expect them to last, but you never know.

Most people expected the HD3870 to launch and stay at better prices due to the high volume of production, but high OEM sales killed that.

So while I expect the price to go down from here, but anything is possible.
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