After all the posts and banter following the 8800 gt release i was expecting post after post when the 45nm E8400 came along, what with it's overclocking potential, low heat output, high multiplier and predicted rush of sales.
Have i just missed them, am i jumping the gun or am i right in saying that it all seems to of been rather quit on the E8400 front?
I was considering picking one up to see me through till next year but if new owners aren't raving about them and there don't seem to be sites putting them through there paces i have to ask is it worth it? Should i sack the idea off and get a Q6600?
Any E8400 owners out there want to comment?
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I, too, am curious. I was going to place an order for one later today.
So far from what I've heard though, I have heard no complaints. Not one. That's generally a good thing. Maybe we haven't heard so much about it because negative news typically is louder than positive?
Bought one last week and overclocked it to 4.00Ghz in 5 minutes with the stock aircooler - and it ran stable through the gauntlet. Upgraded from an E4400. From what I've read, there are diminishing returns after 4.0Ghz, so I've left it there with the stock cooler. But I am running a little hot around 50 degrees idle and up to 80 degrees when running folding @ home - but even at those temps, it's never crashed and I've even run folding and Prime95 at the same time for 24 hours....stable...
My voltage is set around 1.28 btw and it's still that hot. People also have been reporting that each core is reporting wide ranges in temp. I don't think anyone knows if it's the programs reading the temps or the cores themselves....
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Message edited by hockyis1 on 01-30-2008 at 05:56:58 PM
That's what i wanted to hear a bit of positivity about it. Although that seems rather warm 80 degrees at 4 ghz under load for a 45nm processor from what you say Hockyis1.
Message edited by tricky trees on 01-30-2008 at 06:04:33 PM
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Reply to tricky trees
Yes but after stock cooling is only going to bring it down 10 or 12 degrees i'd guess. My E6400 will do 3.2 and only hit 70 which is about the same overclock. I guess i'm playing the devils advocate here a little but i thought the temps might be a bit better.
im still not sure which shop to buy them from... there are waiting queues on every website (with no date clearly mentioned in most cases) and rising prices...
if the prices rise too much ill be getting a E6750 and a quad in a year or so!
And it's tough to really say what a "Stock Cooler" will cool.
At some point the cooler will reach a saturation point and not cool further.
So it's sort of a curve. At low temps, the Stock Cooler might match what an aftermarket does but the aftermarket will begin to differentiate itself more and more over time as the stock cooler reaches its maximum thermal dissipation threshhold.
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Reply to zenmaster
I absolutely love my e8400-- it is truly amazing! My temps were never bad @ 4ghz as I was using an aftermarket cooler and never went beyond 1.3v.
HOWEVER- I just placed mine on ebay for a buy it now (free shipping--shameless advertising!) auction as I am planning on evening out the whole balance in my system. Right now ive got an e8400 and a 8600gt...it doesnt really match up!
thinking about getting a dual core proc plus a 3850, or possibly go a little into the pockets and go for a cheap dual core proc and an 8800gt-- as I read that the gpu is what really matters.
but back to the point--the 8400 rocks!
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Reply to echofoxtrot
1- too new, lot of people don't have it yet 2- people like me just got it! too busy having fun 3- many others at these forums are waiting for Q9xx's or beyond
I pushed mine up to 3.6ghz on stock cooling and has been such a great performer, that I feel as though I don't need to push it further at this time. Sure a E66 could also get to 3.6ghz, but keep in mind penryns do more per clock (7-10%). For $200 bucks, you can't go wrong, and that 3.6 OC was easy enough for even a baby to do it (changed 2 easy settings!).
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It is being reported quite commonly now that the temp readings are inaccurate for these CPU's (for many people). I have been unable to get my core temps below 50c (usually at 55-60c), even when underclocked lol, and I am using the stock HSF (with thermal paste pre-applied!). So don't be dissing our E84's about heat problems because as far as I am concerned, it DOESN'T have heat problems, it just has lousy heat sensors (diaods I think they call em?). It is safe to push it up, just make sure everything is stable with tests. The real temps are probably much lower then the E6xx anything. I am willing to bet it is safe for most people to take the CPU to 4ghz on the stock air cooler even, but the temp readings are scaring people from trying it lol. If anyone is scared about the temp readings, then just wait for the next stepping I guess, but from what I gather, it isn't a big deal at all, people just need to grow a pair of E-balls and push it!
Now if you'll excuse me, I am going back into Crysis. This CPU and the 8800GTS (G92) play it like a dream come true.
Message edited by gamebro on 01-30-2008 at 09:05:18 PM
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Reply to gamebro
I went with it to save money over the E6850. No problems here, 3.6 on stock volts. I don't think it anything to write home about, but I think the wind is already out of everyones lungs as the Intel Core2 chips have been overclocking like madmen for some time now. This just seems to run cooler on less volts due to the 45nm process.
I think a lot of people are watching and waiting for the Yorfield family of Penryns (9450). There is also ATI's 3870x2 video card that is soon to be released and NVidia's 9800 family. So much on the plate, E8400 had a quiet release unlike when the Conroes were released in summer of '06. I recently read a preview of ATIx2's on gamespot and it seems like they are unimpressed. I'm also a little dissapointed that ATI was competing (with its 3870x2) with NVidia's monster the 8800GTX which is already a year old.
Im looking to upgrade in June so I'm watching the E8400, Q6600 and Q9450 (when it's available and read the reviews). Im watching the new video cards when they are released also.
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