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January 31, 2008 11:55:43 AM

My system felt hot...

Processor Intel Quad 3mhz
MOBO ASUS Gamer maximus etc
RAM 4 X 2GIG DDR2 800 (I didn't think ddr3 was worth it)
Graphics 1 8800 GTX PNY and a 7800 GT (I got 2 8800 but put one 1 in old box coz I cant SLI on my X38 mobo)
1TB HDD
CASE CM Stacker with 4 extra 120mm fans
Cooling Zalman resivator.

Looks ok yea? Well the resivator was a bit warm... What I have done is get a tower fan to go in front of the resivator.
WOW! Its cold now... the CPU was reporting 52c + before but now my max temp has been 26C!!!

Still the 8800 is saying its 68C, if anyone has any ideas how to get the temp down please let me know.
Also I am thinking I can SLI the 8800's with a X42 mobo, is this right? If anyone has info on this I would be very greatfull too :) 
I strongly reccomend Resivator1 plus and a black tower fan... looks ok and you will stay under 30C no matter your processor...

Thx and stay cool :) 

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January 31, 2008 12:41:30 PM

Well your CPU temps should be very low if you've underclocked your CPU to 3mhz!

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January 31, 2008 12:54:25 PM

X42?

I think you mean X38/X48, and no, the Intel chipsets only support Crossfire (although given that the HP Blackbird runs Crossfire on an nVidia chipset there may be a way around it...)
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January 31, 2008 12:59:12 PM

well, considering the normal room temp is around 25c, I doubt it will go much lower than that, even if not overclocked.

the reserator is a passive (as you know) cooling device for the liquid coolant. adding even a tiny bit of air flow around it will greatly increase its cooling ability.
January 31, 2008 1:03:23 PM

you should look at thermalright HR-03GT for your GPU, but it might not fit with a SLI setup.

I'm currently waiting for my 120mm fan to arrive, but at passive, my gpu stays at 58°C at idle (didn't wanted to try it under load unless I got my fan). The stock cooler was doing 54-56°C at full speed at idle, so with tha fan it will be well under, like 35-40°.

Its main advantage is that you can put it on either side of the card. So maybe you'll be able to fit 1 on each of your card.
January 31, 2008 1:19:14 PM

Nobody is this stupid, its a bait thread.
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January 31, 2008 1:24:01 PM



Sounds like this guys got the munchies, if you know what i mean
January 31, 2008 1:49:55 PM

mi1ez said:
X42?

I think you mean X38/X48, and no, the Intel chipsets only support Crossfire (although given that the HP Blackbird runs Crossfire on an nVidia chipset there may be a way around it...)


Well I'm pretty sure some drivers can be hacked to run SLi on a CF board and vice versa.
January 31, 2008 1:51:35 PM

lol
January 31, 2008 2:26:19 PM

Man this guy needs to work on his English... :sarcastic: 
January 31, 2008 2:53:46 PM

I thought this post was about my wife!
January 31, 2008 2:57:28 PM

yomamafor1 said:
Man this guy needs to work on his English... :sarcastic: 

no he should work on his math!!! what is ice tempature? 26 degree c?????
:pt1cable: 
January 31, 2008 3:23:18 PM

ice temperature is 0 C, or 32F. thats when you have frozen water.
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January 31, 2008 3:35:26 PM

babybudha said:
I thought this post was about my wife!


It is :) 
January 31, 2008 5:28:57 PM

deuce271 said:
Nobody is this stupid, its a bait thread.


I think the guy is for real either that or the Forum pranksters are getting much more professional!! Hes even build himself a fake system, to match the hardware he is discussing in this thread, in his system information link!! :pt1cable: 

:hello:  Ahhh please tell us you're kidding and put us out of your misery!! I commend you on your efforts to fool us that you are just a stupid newbie... I think the 3Mhz was a bit of a give away though - stick to bad English in the future (I do like the detail about manufactures makes it all sound more real) :hello: 

Bob


January 31, 2008 8:36:16 PM

Sorry 3GHZ lol shame about my 8800's but one is fine atm :)  Thx for the cool comments :) 
So how much do you think I could overclock the system?
Cpu is at 29C under 100% load
I don't want to fry it though, it blu screens already... has been ok with the new cooler but needs more testing. Upgraded bios but blue screened :p 
INTEL say I need a 975 board for it!
January 31, 2008 8:48:59 PM

Hi all,

I love the persistence of this guy but this is a spoof thread right... Come on Dwebert come clean!! :pt1cable: 
I prefer the threads were everyone writes in helpful comments before realising they have been pawn3d!!
This one is a bit too obvious...

Bob
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January 31, 2008 8:51:13 PM

mi1ez said:
X42?

I think you mean X38/X48, and no, the Intel chipsets only support Crossfire (although given that the HP Blackbird runs Crossfire on an nVidia chipset there may be a way around it...)


There is a mobo that has a Intel chipset but uses a chip onboard to enable SLI and CF, I think its the Skulltrail board. I really don't believe you can CF for theirs as it uses the Asus Striker Extreme which is slated only for SLI support. But maybe.

BTW, I got bored and priced this "awesome" Blackbird 002 in a configuration almost equal to mine(Only difference is I have a P5K-E instead of the Striker Extreme which is $80 difference) and lok at my final price: $3,724.01. Thats without the monitor or speakers or mouse. It has a HD2900XT 1GB, Q6600, 2GB DDR2 1066, Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Fatality Xtreme Gamer Pro, G15 keyboard and 2 extra 500GB HDD in RAID0(which add $620 dollars when you can buy them for 119.99 each @ Newegg). Mine is almost exactally the same minus their case and the extra HDD and mine is a HD2900Pro(or HD2900XT at lower speeds) and it cost me $1500 when I bought them. what constitutes the extra $2k? Rip-off, I think so.
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January 31, 2008 9:24:17 PM

nukemaster said:
http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2008/01/24/hpblackbird_revi...

For anyone who is interested....


So they found a way to get it to work. If only they released it. But still there is no reason to pay that much extra for $1500 dollars worth of components. Especially the HDD's which amount to almost $400 dollars more than their retal price. I stand by that its just an over priced rig. BTW I configured the air colled single GPU detup. Even if I did dual GPU it would still cost almost $2K more than it should.
February 2, 2008 2:33:50 PM

The blackbird is a nice game's machine but for that money it's not worth looking at. I have a nice machine but I only play Sword of the new world and freecell. I made it to last, thats why I went for 8gig of ram and a 1TB disk. I think my box will still be fine in a year no problem at all.
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February 2, 2008 2:55:47 PM

i would get more then 8 gigs for extended Freecell play :p 
February 3, 2008 5:59:49 PM

Ok with the tower fan and Zalman the system is fine. Even though Intel don't support it the quad core in a 775 mobo it runs fine if you keep it really cold. Phew! I hate unstable systems.
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February 3, 2008 6:13:12 PM

Neebert said:
Ok with the tower fan and Zalman the system is fine. Even though Intel don't support it the quad core in a 775 mobo it runs fine if you keep it really cold. Phew! I hate unstable systems.


Just a little tipd here, you should have gotten 2 Seagate 500GB SATAII HDD's and put them in a RAID0. Would have had roughly 1TB storage space and faster loads.
February 4, 2008 10:17:39 AM

jimmysmitty said:
Just a little tipd here, you should have gotten 2 Seagate 500GB SATAII HDD's and put them in a RAID0. Would have had roughly 1TB storage space and faster loads.


Two 500gb hard drives in raid is the same as a 500gb hard drive. Raid speeds reading because everything is written identically on both drives. At least I'm pretty sure that's what it is :??: 


Ooh 8gb of RAM, yeah 4gb would have been too fast, it was a good idea to slow it down by getting more.
February 4, 2008 10:44:12 AM

Willing to sacrafice our love?
February 4, 2008 11:07:59 AM

Alextreme said:
Two 500gb hard drives in raid is the same as a 500gb hard drive. Raid speeds reading because everything is written identically on both drives. At least I'm pretty sure that's what it is :??: 


RAID 0 aka stripping puts stripes of the file system over fixed sized blocks on each harddisk (2+) - typically 4K-64K in size. This means that the harddisks can be all read in parallel speeding up access to files. You need to be accessing files sequentially or RAM access files of size >> striping block size.
www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~gxk/courses/g53ops/Guest/raid.ppt

The size of a stripped HD array is the size of smallest HD * number of HD. In case the size will about 1TB (give or take).

Bob
February 4, 2008 12:57:30 PM

Quote:
Nobody is this stupid, its a bait thread.


ROFL! :lol: 
February 7, 2008 9:52:34 PM

A single HDD cannot exceed the same two drives in RAID0 config. RAID0 does not write identical data on both drives, thats RAID1. RAID0 is has lot of performance gains.

To the poster, I recently got the Reserator 1 Plus along w/ the Fan kit and let me tell you it does not keep it "cold as ice". My room temp is around 23C and the coolest my cores has ever gotten is around 27-28C. During the day, my lowest core temp is 37C, highest 40C.

The good thing is at 100% load, my max core temp is 57-59C. I can complain about the performance because it does better than high end air cooling and is completely silent.

And the best thing is that is FREE!
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February 8, 2008 7:16:33 PM

Alextreme said:
Two 500gb hard drives in raid is the same as a 500gb hard drive. Raid speeds reading because everything is written identically on both drives. At least I'm pretty sure that's what it is :??: 


Ooh 8gb of RAM, yeah 4gb would have been too fast, it was a good idea to slow it down by getting more.


Yea thats RAID1. RAID0 is performance and dependant on how many hard drives you put in it.

I can tell you the difference between 1HD and a RAID0. In my first setup I had just one SATAI 120GB Seagate baracudda. Took the normal 30-40 minutes to install XP. When I added another HD in RAID0 it took only 15 minutes to install XP. I had a big smile on my face :D 
February 8, 2008 8:31:35 PM

Yes, RAID0 with two SATAII drives will be even faster. I'm loving my 2x Seagate 500GB SATAII in RAID0.
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February 8, 2008 9:00:14 PM

Sata, Sata II and IDE all had the same limitation.....
The mechanical drive....so Sata II is NOT any faster then sata(the interface is....the current drives are not). It has the potential to run faster, but not until drives move to solid state. Your drives only run faster because they are newer and use PMR recording technology. the same drive with even a IDE interface would be just as fast.

Is the 0.9 meg difference from IDE to SATA II noticable? NO. Is it within the margin of error....yes
http://www23.tomshardware.com/storage.html?modelx=33&mo...

You may even see cases of the ATA100 drives beating the SATA drives. With 118megs/sec(for the small time it can be held) being the fastest drive on the market is still under the 133 from IDE.

Not saying to go get IDE(there are downsides like the shared channel for 2 drives)....just want to put this SATA is faster BS to rest....its newer drives that are faster, not the fact that they are sata(or sata II)
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