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February 26, 2008 4:04:48 PM

I'm building a new pc off the e8400, I'll be running a G92 8800 GTS, 2 250gb 7500rmp hd, and 1 150gb 10000rmp for the os, X-fi sound card, vista ultimate 64, and 4gb corsair xms2 ram (or best compatible with mb). I am just looking for the best board for this setup as I am mainly going for performance, sound and picture quality, but also gaming. So I was wondering from everyones experience here what board would be best suited for that setup and achieving some nice oc speeds and offers great performance and a lot of expansion ability.

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a c 136 V Motherboard
February 26, 2008 5:06:05 PM

ASUS P5K-E WIFI
GIGAYBYTE P35 DS3R
ABIT IP35 PRO
February 26, 2008 6:02:23 PM

And all of those are compatible right out of the box with this processor?
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February 26, 2008 6:07:13 PM

Gigabyte P35 DS3L is also a good choice if you don't plan to SLI. Worked perfect with my E8400 right out of the box.
a b V Motherboard
February 26, 2008 6:17:19 PM

"Compatible right out of the box" as in "will boot". Flashing the BIOS may still be a good idea even if it works perfect - it might just fix bugs you haven't found yet, or make something go faster. Of course, it may mess up something that used to work, so read the notes carefully to decide whether to flash or not.

Are you planning to use a 24" monitor or bigger and play things like Crysis? If yes, I suggest an X38 or 780i motherboard and a large PSU, so you can do Crossfire or SLI.

Are you planning to use 3 or 4 monitors? If yes, the aBit IP35Pro is good because you can have two video cards in it, each with 2 monitors, but the GA-P35-DS3L and GA-P35-DS3R won't do. GA-P35-DS4 will do, if you like Gigabyte.

Are you going to have lots of hard disks, maybe a RAID array? GA-P35-DS3L is limited to 4 SATA and 2 IDE devices and doesn't support RAID.

February 26, 2008 11:22:58 PM

I was planning on playing just 1 monitor and a 22", would consider 24" if price was right on it, but trying to stay with budget with the new system.
February 27, 2008 12:40:16 AM

If you want compatibility out of the box with sli you will need a nvidia 7 series chipset board.
a b V Motherboard
February 27, 2008 1:54:21 AM

This is a good combination:

EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i, $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188024

OCZ Silencer 750W Quad SLI Ready Power Supply - Black $138 + $12
http://www.buy.com/prod/ocz-silencer-750w-quad-sli-ready-power-supply-black/q/loc/101/204839780.html

With two of those 8800GTS G92 512MB cards you might as well get a 24" monitor and play most games at 1920x1200.

Just checking - you do know to avoid the 8800GTS 320Mb and the 640MB, right?
February 27, 2008 2:02:22 AM

What would be my best mb option to couple with this cpu for extreme performance, some internet gaming, high quality sound and picture...i could probably use my pentium 4 to flash the bios to a compatible driver if it wasn't out of box compatible.
February 27, 2008 2:03:48 AM

i have that psu in the 700w series
February 27, 2008 2:04:21 AM

yes going with 512
a b V Motherboard
February 27, 2008 2:23:37 AM

T_Iz_Me said:
What would be my best mb option to couple with this cpu for extreme performance, some internet gaming, high quality sound and picture...i could probably use my pentium 4 to flash the bios to a compatible driver if it wasn't out of box compatible, just more work than i'd like to do :p 



The EVGA 780i is a motherboard, so I just answered that one :)  OK, if you really mean extreme performance, get the eVGA 780i mobo and three 8800GTX cards and an Enermax Galaxy 1000W. You can't combine three 8800GTS cards, it only works with GTX). But this will cost a fortune, and it only makes sense with a 24" monitor or larger, not a 22".
February 27, 2008 11:04:35 PM

Why not a 680i board?
February 28, 2008 6:45:58 AM

Well the setup I'll be running is a G92 8800 GTS, 2 250gb 7500rmp hd, and 1 150gb 10000rmp for the os, X-fi sound card, vista ultimate 64, and 4gb corsair xms2 ram. I am just looking for the best board to support, price really isn't that much of an issue because I want it to be an upgradeable board so if I decide to swap out the cpu down the line for one of the quad 45nm the board still has all the expansion slots and compatibility I would want with the latest software. Thanks for all the help so far!
February 28, 2008 7:51:28 AM

I bought the ASUS P5E to pair with my E8400 2 days ago and had no problem. It saw my cpu straight away. 1333 FSB. The only think i changed in BIOS was DRAM Frequency to 1200MHz for my new Transcend 2X1GB 1200MHz RAM kit (Windows XP FTW) and that worked with no hassle as well :) 
a b V Motherboard
February 28, 2008 9:53:27 AM

Dunkel said:
Why not a 680i board?
Some 680i boards (maybe most) are compatible with 45nm dual-cores, but these still require a BIOS update first. He wants something that works "out of the box" and there's no gaurantee that a system that needs a BIOS update will even boot with a processor that it hasn't been updated to support.
February 28, 2008 12:22:18 PM

are the 780i boards much better performance wise? like for OCing and stufff
a b V Motherboard
February 28, 2008 12:34:45 PM

Dunkel said:
are the 780i boards much better performance wise? like for OCing and stufff


No. I'd personally go with an older board and update the BIOS using an older processor, then put in the E8400.
a b V Motherboard
February 28, 2008 1:11:16 PM

Dunkel said:
are the 780i boards much better performance wise? like for OCing and stufff


Compared to 680i, they add PCI-E 2.0 (which may make a difference for 9800GTX and later, but it doesn't matter for current video cards) and Triple-SLI (currently supported by 8800 GTX and 8800 Ultra, nothing else). Apart from that, not much has changed...
February 29, 2008 2:28:01 AM

Any other suggestions on this, finally managed to find my processor so I am anxious to start this build ASAP, just want to find the right mb as this is my first time building from the ground up and really want a nice board to work with.
a b V Motherboard
February 29, 2008 12:50:17 PM

T_Iz_Me said:
Any other suggestions on this, finally managed to find my processor so I am anxious to start this build ASAP, just want to find the right mb as this is my first time building from the ground up and really want a nice board to work with.


OK, I'll list some of my favorite options and you check out the specs at newegg and Google for reviews.

If you only want one video card, and 3 hard disks (and I'm guessing also a DVD burner) and don't care about RAID or FireWire or eSATA, then you could get a GA-P35-DS3L for about $90.

Now, if you want RAID or the ability to add a 4th hard disk (and a 7th, in fact) you can get the GA-P35-DS3R for $130 or so. If all your disks and the burner are SATA and you don't already have the cables, this is a better deal IMO than the DS3L because it comes with 4 cables instead of 2.

If you need a second PCI-E x16 slot or FireWire or eSATA you can look at the aBit IP35 Pro or the GA-P35-DS4 (or GA-P35-DS3P) or the P5K Premium. These boards will not be great for Crossfire, and you're getting an nVidia card anyway, but they will let you add a cheap second card there and use it to power monitors #3 and #4 (while the GTS handles #1 and #2).

If you want Crossfire you need something like GA-X38-DS4 (or P5E) and replace the GTS card with an HD 3870 or HD 3870X2. If you want SLI look at eVGA 780i or XFX 780i. TBH I don't think you need to go this far for a 22" monitor.

March 4, 2008 1:57:07 PM

What about the Asus Maximum Formula?

Only thing is, you MIGHT have to flash it with a 65nm cpu (provided you purchased a box with an older bios) and it doesnt have eSATA

edit: just noticed your nvidia, so this rules out sli.
March 4, 2008 9:09:26 PM

aevm said:
OK, I'll list some of my favorite options and you check out the specs at newegg and Google for reviews.

If you only want one video card, and 3 hard disks (and I'm guessing also a DVD burner) and don't care about RAID or FireWire or eSATA, then you could get a GA-P35-DS3L for about $90.

Now, if you want RAID or the ability to add a 4th hard disk (and a 7th, in fact) you can get the GA-P35-DS3R for $130 or so. If all your disks and the burner are SATA and you don't already have the cables, this is a better deal IMO than the DS3L because it comes with 4 cables instead of 2.

If you need a second PCI-E x16 slot or FireWire or eSATA you can look at the aBit IP35 Pro or the GA-P35-DS4 (or GA-P35-DS3P) or the P5K Premium.

Do you know if the cooling for the DS3R is as good as the DS3P? Is there much difference? I have a Quad Core Q6600 cpu and want to keep things as cool as possible and not worry about heat/power consumption issues. I might want eSATA if I ever got an external HDD. Does that mean the DS3R is out and I should consider DS4? I read that one can just buy a bracket for eSATA but how does it compare? It uses up a PCI slot?

I'm considering selling the Quad Core cpu to get a E8400/E8500 as well which might help ease concerns. What about that idea?
a b V Motherboard
March 5, 2008 12:15:15 AM

The DS3P has better cooling on the NorthBridge than the DS3R, but that's really relevant only if you overclock pretty high AFAIK, as in over 425 fsb.

A stock Q6600 consumes 95W, an E8400 65W. TBH I wouldn't worry about 30W more or less when picking a CPU. The main thing is what you intend to use it for. Keep the Q6600 if you play FSX or do programming/video/database work. Also keep the Q6600 if you believe the theory that lots of new games will support quads soon. Personally I hope it's true, but I'm not seeing much evidence to support it. It's hard to say. FSX used to work poorly on quads, until a patch arrived and made it work 80% better on quads... You just never know.

I would pay $40 more for the DS4 as opposed to the DS3R, but it's not a typical scenario. One of these days I'll buy a third monitor and my current motherboard (GA-P35C-DS3R) won't support it. That is, if I had a DS4 or DS3P I could have just added a second video card to feed monitor #3 while the primary card handles #1 and #2. I'll have to get a new motherboard, or give up a 20" and connect the new 30" instead. My only excuse is I had never used even 2 monitors at the time and I had no idea I'd want 3 some day. Also, LCD prices have dropped.

An eSATA bracket won't take a PCI slot. At the simplest it's just a $3 cable that goes into a SATA connector and ends at the back of the PC. Here's an example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812226006

My GA-P35C-DS3R says it supports eSATA. What that really means is I have a bracket and a 4-pin to SATA power cable in the box (the bracket has two SATA connectors). You can see a picture here, it's from the DS4 but it's the same thing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=13-128-064-07.jpg&Image=13-128-064-03.jpg%2c13-128-064-04.jpg%2c13-128-064-05.jpg%2c13-128-064-06.jpg%2c13-128-064-07.jpg%2c13-128-064-08.jpg%2c13-128-064-02.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Depa=0&Description=GIGABYTE+GA-P35-DS4+Rev.+2.0+ATX+Ultra+Durable+II+Intel+Motherboard
March 5, 2008 7:10:52 AM

Having an extra monitor is interesting and might be quite useful for me. Thanks for bringing that up! LOL! So, the DS4 gives that option? How does that work? They are not for SLI or gaming but for adding an extra monitor?

Btw, thanks for answering the other questions. I think I might want either the DS3P or DS4 for improved cooling.

Also, thanks to Canadian pricing, the DS4 is $60 more than the DS3R and the DS3P is $40 more than the DS3R. I just need to confirm that the most recent revision of the DS4 can fit the Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 CPU cooler. I believe that it can as I haven't read anything about the backplate being on the newer boards.

I feel better about having the Quad now, thanks. It's good to know that they are still popular and useful, though. It's still a good processor none the less but I have an option of replacing it with the E8400 if I prefer. Either way, my build should be decent.
a b V Motherboard
March 5, 2008 12:37:05 PM

Honestly, I've never had 3 monitors so I don't know how it works in all details. Right now I have an 8800GTX with two DVI cables going out of it, each to its own monitor. There's an nVidia Control Panel that lets me pick things like whether the monitors should show the same image (Clone mode) or combine to simulate a larger monitor (DualView), and which one is on the left, and which one to show the Start button, and so on. I assume that with a second video card and a 3rd (or even 4th) monitor connected to it I'd have more options in that software.

BTW, the DS3P or DS4 do allow Crossfire (that's like SLI, but with ATI cards instead of nVidia). They're just not ideal for it because one of the PCI-E x16 slots is x16 only in size but runs at x4 speed.

I too believe the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme will fit on the GA-P35-DS4. A quick Google search found me a guy who has both in his signature on some forum.
http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/298610-how-ship-monitor.html
March 28, 2008 9:05:56 AM

Hi there! I have some questions about these MBs:

1) Is there any MB capable of recognizing DDR3 modules?

2) I see that some MBs have these specs: rev 1.0, rev 2.0 and rev 2.1 - how should I proceed (or the seller) to verify if the MB is selling is the rev 2.1 for example?

3) I need to use RAID 0 and probably 3 or 4 HDDs using SATA. I also need to do Crossfire.

4) I need some MB that can accept PCI-E slots for using a capture card (Blackmagic Intensity Pro). I think all of them have this feature, just to confirm.

And for the last, if more than a single model fits all the following 4 items above, what do you recommend?

I need a new MB to use with E8400. Thanks!
March 31, 2008 8:05:08 AM

probably an X38/X48 chipset based mobo then - there are several with DDR3.
a b V Motherboard
March 31, 2008 1:06:05 PM

If you want to do Crossfire then two PCI-E x16 slots will be occupied by the video cards. What kind of PCI-E slot does the capture card need?
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