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Do you hate Apple?

Total: 233 votes (26 blank votes)

  • Yes
  • 55 %
  • No
  • 20 %
  • Just the Macs
  • 12 %
  • Are you kidding me?!? I love Apple products
  • 5 %
  • Love the OS, Hate the hardware
  • 6 %
  • IPod Rulz!
  • 5 %
a b B Homebuilt system
February 1, 2008 12:21:46 AM

Quote:
I think this is one of the most longest running that haven't been locked by turpit.(Cause there is no flaming on this one so far :D  )


f*** you windows fan boy.....

I don't know how you can use that windowZ pile of f***ing ****....

J/K

i had to.....
a b B Homebuilt system
February 1, 2008 12:42:25 AM

^ :lol:  That reminds me I promised that I would select the best post of the thread....need to read all of them and see.....
February 1, 2008 9:33:12 AM

I don't hate Apple, but I hate it when Mac users feel the need to talk them up. I'm in IT as well and I'm sick of people starting conversations with "...so I bought a Mac..." or "...so I'm buying a Mac..." or "...when are we getting Mac G5s (to run our POS software)..." Y'know what? I DON'T CARE SO STOP TALKING TO ME ABOUT THIS!! There is no arguing with them - it's like telling religious zealots there is no <insert God of choice here>.

Quality is quality. Apple succeeds (mostly) because it controls the hardware and software start to finish, whereas PCs can be comprised of components from hundreds of different manufacturers. If all I knew of the PC world was eMachines, I'd probably love Macs too.

iPods...meh! My 3rd generation has lasted well but the battery on my wife's mini died way before it's time. I like iTunes but I use QTFairUse6 to remove DRM from the music I buy.

Again, if any of my users at work are reading this, DON'T TRY TO SUCKER ME INTO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW GOOD MACS ARE. Thank you.
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February 1, 2008 11:14:39 AM

I've never bought one, but they sure are stylish looking. Get an iMac with wireless keyboard, mouse & internet and you've got a 1 wire machine. That's a pretty slick setup.
February 2, 2008 2:46:53 PM

I hate them because my pc and my K850i combined do everything Apple products can do for a lot less money :) 

Free K850i on contract with a 4 gig memory card for my MP3, and I have an upcoming thread on my PC upgrade. Keep a look out for it :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
February 2, 2008 4:35:16 PM

^Agreed
February 3, 2008 8:44:44 AM

Well once they used x86 processors and an OS based on an OS based on *nix it was much easier to counter the fanboys with "I could just run linux on my PC, and then I wouldn't have to pay over $2000 for a glorified operating system".

Simply put I don't "hate" Macs, they are annoying to use, so I "dislike" them. I think I hate the fanboys, but then again, who doesn't hate fanboys?
February 3, 2008 8:50:19 AM

This is old but I had to reply

"I also look at it like this. Microsoft is on their 6th OS. Apple is on their 10th or 11th OS. I am sure that when Microsoft makes their 10th or 11th Windows OS they will be far better than Apple's 10th and 11th OS. Sadly, most people overlook that. "


The number of operating system != The quality of the Microsoft or Apple
February 3, 2008 10:23:26 AM

dgris said:
I don't hate Apple, but I hate it when Mac users feel the need to talk them up. I'm in IT as well and I'm sick of people starting conversations with "...so I bought a Mac..." or "...so I'm buying a Mac..." or "...when are we getting Mac G5s (to run our POS software)..." Y'know what? I DON'T CARE SO STOP TALKING TO ME ABOUT THIS!! There is no arguing with them - it's like telling religious zealots there is no <insert God of choice here>.

Quality is quality. Apple succeeds (mostly) because it controls the hardware and software start to finish, whereas PCs can be comprised of components from hundreds of different manufacturers. If all I knew of the PC world was eMachines, I'd probably love Macs too.

iPods...meh! My 3rd generation has lasted well but the battery on my wife's mini died way before it's time. I like iTunes but I use QTFairUse6 to remove DRM from the music I buy.

Again, if any of my users at work are reading this, DON'T TRY TO SUCKER ME INTO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW GOOD MACS ARE. Thank you.


lol i know exactly what you mean, everytime someone asks me to fix their mac i just walk off. I really can't be bothered with the Mac setup. I'll help out with linux/windows. There is a way to make macs better -> bootcamp. the only good use of a mac is with windows :) 
February 3, 2008 10:30:57 AM

Quote:
Simply put I don't "hate" Macs, they are annoying to use, so I "dislike" them. I think I hate the fanboys, but then again, who doesn't hate fanboys?
Well put. I couldn't agree more. Fanboys are annoying but a fact of life :D  .
I'm not a fan of Macs, but I don't hate them. Mostly, I just think Apple products are rip-offs for what you get. By my area's standard, I'm a serious minority though.
The only Macs used in our area were in schools, and were crippled badly because they "had problems communicating with the Windows based servers." Therefore, there were very few Mac fans at my school ;) 
The school's powerful Apple PC's: 5 eMacs, 2 @ 1.25GHz. The rest, around 40 of them, were the blueberry-style iMacs; some in the library were even still using OS 9 in 2007! Ouch man... Maybe you can see why they aren't overly popular in my area...
I have used a Mac outside of school - hell, I bought a used one - but I'm not overly impressed... Wouldn't recommend it over XP for too many reasons, personally...
By the way, isn't it common for Mac fanatics to try and make Windows the 'dark side,' though? Or anyone else, for that matter? What about the current Apple domination of the MP3 player market? ;)  And no, I won't buy an iPod - too expensive, and too restrictive, in my opinion, no offence intended.
yoshiyoshi :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
February 3, 2008 1:47:55 PM

spaztic7 said:
skittle: +1

Also, Photoshop is available on PC. The funny thing is that people who use Apple for photo editing will say how their Photoshop programs are so much better, when any PC user can go and buy the same thing and have it run faster on PC vs. a Mac.

Not only that, once the Macanites are done Macing out on their Macphoto editors, they jump onto Microsoft Internet Explorer, or Microsoft Office. I have to admit, these are great innovations from Apple! Who would ever of thought that Apple would have to use Microsoft programs! I do understand they do not have to use these programs and yes there are office programs that come with Mac's free and web browsers as well. Its not that point, but the point that Mac's are found a lot with Microsoft application on it.

Apple and PC are two platforms that you can choose from. Linux is another. There is nothing better or wore from any platform to make one the best one to chose from.
- If you do not like to have the ability to customize you computer then PC or Linux is not for you.
- If you like to get screwed over and over from you OS vendor then Apple and Windows is for you.
- If you like to waste money on a system then Apple is for you.
- If you like a system that claims they are more secure then Apple is for you.
- If you want a free OS that will let you do anything, the Linux is for you.
- If you are trendy the Apple is for you.
- If you find yourself worrying about your nails and if you look fat in this, Apple is for you.
- If you like to live in a dream world where nothing can hurt you, Apple is for you.
- If you like to game, Windows is for you.
- If you like to video edit, pick any OS. They can all do it.
- If you like to picture edit, pick any OS.
- If you like to sound edit or create music, pick any OS. They all do it.
- If you like a company who says this that they can finally do that Linux and Windows has been doing for years, the Apple is for you.
- If you are educated, then Windows or Linux is for you. (I say this because after doing research, you will find Linux to be the smartest possible OS, but you will have to do some work with it to get it to do everything. Windows for the people who just want to use a computer that will work with everything.)
- If you like a company who is on their 10th or 11th OS and is bragging about it.... Then Apple is for you. (Honestly this is kind of sad. It took 10 or 11 tries to get it where they are at now... They are now a step away from dirt... they are crap!)


Please, add to the list!


skittle said:
Whitestar27 said:
add
-If you want viruses (and you are uneducated and click on free porn and weight loss links) then Windows is for you.

Fixed.


Posts of the Thread!
[:turpit:2]
Congratz!
a b B Homebuilt system
February 3, 2008 7:58:26 PM

One thing PC's do need to take from Macs is the easy network setup. See, at work, we use all static IP addressing, so when you move from building to building, in windows you'd either have to have alternate configurations, or change your IP manually. However, in OS X, the nice part is they let you set locations, so you can have like 20 locations, each of them can have the specific settings, passwords etc for where you are at. All you have to do is click the apple button, go to location, and pick where you are, and your done. PC's need something like that. And before you bash me, I may use Macs, but I've still got my new PC.
February 4, 2008 4:24:52 AM

  • Please, add to the list!

    -If you have enough money for a Mac, but spent that on a PC and came here we would label you as

    1) Extreme
    2) Possibly Insane
    3) Rich.. and we're jealous
    February 4, 2008 11:09:03 AM

    Shadow703793 said:
    Fixed.


    Posts of the Thread!
    [:turpit:2]
    Congratz![/quotemsg]


    Why thank you for the award! Who do I start to thank!?!?!....
    a b B Homebuilt system
    February 4, 2008 5:48:09 PM

    ^May be turpit
    February 10, 2008 1:27:16 AM

    Still not banned as of 10:30pm on 02/09/08. I give you till tomorrow morning, Shadow.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    February 10, 2008 3:14:18 AM

    its gone...
    a b B Homebuilt system
    February 10, 2008 10:53:42 PM

    Yup, its gone.
    March 7, 2008 11:09:14 PM

    what was it about...
    March 9, 2008 11:19:04 AM

    I think this thread was picked back up on the thread that there should be a mac forum on thf.
    March 9, 2008 1:05:45 PM

    My 2 favorite things are:

    1) Having relations with a super hot chick.

    2) Building a computer with TOP NOTCH components, the kind of stuff that makes your palms sweat when you are unboxing them.

    Now, these being my 2 favorite things, I would not want anybody else to do them for me.

    Mac owners want someone else to build their computer, now if they need someone to take care of their wives and girlfriends too...
    March 9, 2008 1:44:38 PM

    I hate mac because my mother's friend uses Mac and she said that PC sucks.
    March 9, 2008 2:11:53 PM

    Why is this even here? It's not a social forum.
    March 9, 2008 3:25:23 PM

    I am not a ipod hater but my girlfriends dog certainly is

    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 9, 2008 4:32:21 PM

    ^ :lol:  :lol: 

    [:turpit:2]
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 9, 2008 4:34:13 PM

    Falken699 said:
    My 2 favorite things are:

    1) Having relations with a super hot chick.

    2) Building a computer with TOP NOTCH components, the kind of stuff that makes your palms sweat when you are unboxing them.

    Now, these being my 2 favorite things, I would not want anybody else to do them for me.

    Mac owners want someone else to build their computer, now if they need someone to take care of their wives and girlfriends too...

    [:turpit:2]
    March 10, 2008 12:28:07 PM

    hate is too strong a word!
    i don't like apple for the following reasons:
    1.too expensive compared to what other competitors offer--mac book pro -check out the hardware and then try customizing a dell laptop online and see the price difference.
    2.they prefer being a niche product - they could do much better than what they are doing if they ventured into the mainstream--macs and pcs.
    3.the apple ipod is an overly glorified protable media player.there are better players out there.

    i like apple for:
    1.their operating system.

    i don't own anything made by apple.
    i did load osx tiger 10.4.8 in my amd pc.it works perfectly.waiting for a proper patched version of leopard so that i could try it out in my amd pc.
    i own a dell xps 1330 laptop.it runs osx leopard and tiger properly.
    i have a transcend tsonic t-310 mp3 player(competitor to the ipod shuffle but way better!) i've got creative ep 630 earphones for the player.its rock solid and almost indestructible(it survived a motorbike accident at 40 kmph with combined weight of the bike and me.it took the impact and played on but the my pair of levis tore to shreds!)
    as for the cell phone -i find the iphone too fancy and not that practical for the price it sells for.i use a sony ericsson w200i walkman phone and am happy with it.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 28, 2008 10:49:23 PM

    I think this needs a bump.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 28, 2008 10:55:51 PM

    lol
    March 28, 2008 11:15:03 PM

    I do not hate Ipods/Apple/Macs.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 28, 2008 11:23:36 PM

    ^ Well, I hate Apple users who buy them to show off $$$, Apple DRM, and the Apple OS.
    March 29, 2008 12:01:49 AM

    Cowan, Creative, and Microsoft Zunes are all better players than IPod. I bought an IPod and returned it the same day cause I hated it.

    I've used Cowan and Zune and like them both better. I currently own a Creative ZEN and love it.
    March 29, 2008 12:15:33 AM

    croc said:
    I hate bullets, bombs, cluster munitions, landmines and depleted uranium munitions.

    I happen to be a fan of depleted uranium kinetic energy rounds :pt1cable: 
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 29, 2008 12:22:08 AM

    Still as someone who works on macs for a living and having always been a pc guy, macs seem easier to administrate. I mean I don't worry so much about patches, antivirus, etc. It's great! I love Windows, but in an administrative environment, seems like so much more to keep track of.
    March 29, 2008 12:45:07 AM

    well i have a PSP just for music (a modded one with a "hard drive" of 8GB) and i love then sound quality, it's even better than the ipod and every psp owner that have listened to ipods will agree with me
    March 29, 2008 12:48:03 AM

    Apple patches patchy

    Even Vole does it better!

    By Nick Farrell: Friday, 28 March 2008, 9:22 AM

    FRUIT-THEMED toymaker, Apple has been accused of over-marketing its ability to patch its software.

    The advertisements might give you the impression that OS-X is jolly well written and secure, but it seems that the Cappuccino outfit is not quite as secure as the Umpire of Evil Microsoft.

    At a recent Black Hat security conference, delegates were shocked to be told by boffins from Swiss Federal Institute of Technology that Apple’s performance on patches was, er... patchy.

    The boffins looked at how many times over the past six years the two vendors were able to have a patch available on the day a vulnerability became publicly known, which they call the zero-day patch rate. They then took this number and divided by their shoe size and discovered that there were 658 vulnerabilities affecting Microsoft products and 738 affecting Apple.

    This might be OK if Apple ever bothered to patch them particularly fast. The boffins said that Apple was below 20 unpatched vulnerabilities at disclosure consistently before 2005 but these days Apple is always above that figure.

    The net result is that the number of unpatched vulnerabilities are higher at Apple.

    One of the reasons is that while Vole has been chummy with the security community, Apple keeps them at arms’ length. µ

    L'Inq

    Security IT World
    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/03/28/...
    March 29, 2008 1:38:31 AM

    what annoys me about macs are not the computers themselves but the company and the users.

    Number 1 mac are good for creativity.
    So i ask what is the number 1 apple selling computer why it is the 13.3 inch macbook. So the mac user i know personally with this computer is always bashing my computer and windows about how his is so creative and how he can make movies and design music. He then shot a video for his college film course. The other day he was editing it and he could not figure out why it was going so slowly re rendering the frames and the pictures. Maybe because that computer has integrated graphics.


    Also apple telling me what should be on the my system annoys me. The entire pushing safari through software update to windows users is the lowest thing i have seen ANY company do. Apple must be desperate to undermine all computer companies.

    Macs are great for 3 things imo

    They are great for people that do not know very much about computer s because then that person does not have to deal with the care and feeding of a normal computer like a windows user.

    The professionals film editor or art enthusiast,WHEN they are used on a macbook pro laptop or powermac desktop with the right hardware.

    In a school or work setting because they are resistant to many of the other networking troubles. That said i work on a network of Macintosh's and it is way easier to network windows machine due to the large number of tools and plugin available.
    March 29, 2008 2:18:37 AM

    I am impressed with their preloaded video editing software, but beyond that, I don't like them. I find it hilarious when people think their Mac hardware is special. I love to tell them it has the same processor as my "inferior" PC.
    March 29, 2008 1:20:31 PM

    One of my favorite things that you hear the apple nuts say. "Who needs all the third party sofware, a Mac comes with everything you need."

    Maybe some people don't mind others deciding what they do and do not need, but I think that I can decide for myself.

    I had one experience with itunes which was more than enough for me.

    A while back there was a pepsi/ apple promotion where they were giving away music via codes under bottle caps. A few friends gave me some of these caps so I thought what the heck. I went to the site only to find out that I had to install itunes to download the free songs. Ok no real big deal, so I download and install itunes. Then I find out the songs are mpeg4 and have all the drm crap. So now I can only play the songs via itunes on the pc that I originally used to download them. That was it for me. I made good use of that second mouse button and deleted the songs. Then uninstalled itunes, fired up bittorrent and downloaded the songs in a usable mp3 format.

    So about a week goes by and I'm doing something (don't really remember what) and I open "my computer". WTF no optical drives listed anywhere. The only thing that I could think that I had done was to uninstall itunes! So I reinstall and then uninstall itunes to confirm that it had in fact removed my dvd drives when I uninstalled it. Thanks alot apple! I guess they figured that if you don't have itunes then what possible need would you have for a cd/dvd burner. Seems to go right along with the theme of them deciding what you need.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 29, 2008 1:33:09 PM

    ^ [:turpit:2]
    March 29, 2008 2:27:03 PM

    Yeah, and people complain about Microsoft software "thinking" for you. Yikes, that's why I steer clear of all that Apple garbage. I like this good old fashioned stuff that you have to think to use.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 29, 2008 2:46:56 PM

    http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/27/day-two-...
    More secure ? :lol: 
    Quote:
    At 12:38pm local time, the team of Charlie Miller, Jake Honoroff, and Mark Daniel from Independent Security Evaluators have successfully compromised the Apple MacBook Air, winning the laptop and $10,000 from TippingPoint's Zero Day Initiative. They were able to exploit a brand new 0day vulnerability in Apple's Safari web browser. Coincidentally, Apple has just started to ship Safari to some Windows machines, with its iTunes update service. The vulnerability has been acquired by the Zero Day Initiative, and has been responsibly disclosed to Apple who is now working on the issue. Until Apple releases a patch for this issue, neither we nor the contestants will be giving out any additional information about the vulnerability. You can track the vulnerability on the Zero Day Initiative upcoming advisories page under ZDI-CAN-303.


    Quote:
    Earlier, Miller said that he chose to hack the Mac because he thought it would be easiest target. Vista hacker Macaulay didn't dispute that assertion: "I think it might be," he said

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,143962-c,hackers/arti...
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 29, 2008 3:44:41 PM

    That can't be....Apple computer are so secure there is not need for patches or even a virus scanner. they are just that damn good. That must have been a windows machine :p 
    March 29, 2008 4:22:56 PM

    Yes, I really hate them. But I seriously have no idea why.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 29, 2008 5:21:01 PM

    nukemaster said:
    That can't be....Apple computer are so secure there is not need for patches or even a virus scanner. they are just that damn good. That must have been a windows machine :p 

    I think It was a Mac running Vista :lol:  :p 
    March 29, 2008 5:28:28 PM

    ipods sucks. as for apple macintoshes they're x86 machines now so it doesn't except for Mac OSX that sucks too
    a b B Homebuilt system
    March 29, 2008 5:31:22 PM

    But vista took 2 days to break...and it was Sun java's fault so any os can get hit that way. They never died manage to break anything MS made this time around.

    LOL 2 min to break into safari. priceless....
    March 29, 2008 6:30:09 PM

    Racktracker said:

    A while back there was a pepsi/ apple promotion where they were giving away music via codes under bottle caps. A few friends gave me some of these caps so I thought what the heck. I went to the site only to find out that I had to install itunes to download the free songs. Ok no real big deal, so I download and install itunes. Then I find out the songs are mpeg4 and have all the drm crap. So now I can only play the songs via itunes on the pc that I originally used to download them. That was it for me. I made good use of that second mouse button and deleted the songs. Then uninstalled itunes, fired up bittorrent and downloaded the songs in a usable mp3 format.


    You could've made a mp3 cd in itunes to get rid of DRM and... (drumroll) convert the songs to mp3.

    I'm entrenched into itunes. Somedays I really want to switch to something else, but laziness stops me every time. Safari being bundled might end that laziness though and very quickly.

    Edit: I soooo hate the apple selling team, oops I mean mac user
    !